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    You can't really compare the two. Anywhere Islam goes once they hit that 15-20% they take over.

    Look at how many countries were predominantly Christian just 100 years ago.

    You can't just say they are both stupid which is in itself stupid. The proof is in the pudding.

    It's not just that they hate Jews. They want all Jews and Christians DEAD. Big difference

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    You can't really compare the two. Anywhere Islam goes once they hit that 15-20% they take over.

    Look at how many countries were predominantly Christian just 100 years ago.

    You can't just say they are both stupid which is in itself stupid. The proof is in the pudding.

    It's not just that they hate Jews. They want all Jews and Christians DEAD. Big difference
    Jews good now, Chris?

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    You can't really compare the two. Anywhere Islam goes once they hit that 15-20% they take over.

    Look at how many countries were predominantly Christian just 100 years ago.

    You can't just say they are both stupid which is in itself stupid. The proof is in the pudding.

    It's not just that they hate Jews. They want all Jews and Christians DEAD. Big difference
    and yet soros has taken over a country that is only 2% jewish

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    and yet soros has taken over a country that is only 2% jewish
    It is astounding these numbers Chris comes up with.

    The Alawite sect was 15-20% in Syria yet the Assad’s dominated “real” Islam and ran the country.
    White Chris has no idea concerning the hatred between different Islamic groups and has surely forgotten Christian history of infighting and hatred.

    Preacher man speaks in Israel and calls Mormons heretics just like some in Islam refer to competing factions. Make the people poor in the US and give them a totalitarian leader of a Christian sect and watch em go at it cutting throats.

    Catholics or Mormons... Which group dies first Chris? In your brand of Christian.

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    They're both stupid. We can argue all day about degrees of stupidity, but siding with either stupid doesn't make any sense. Especially when you know lives are at stake.
    And to the heart of the matter.

    Israel has all the cards with power in this latest clash. They could have made contingency plans to let Gaza riot without bloodshed on their part. They have the technical and strategic means to do this. They did not. BN purposefully shed blood.

    Hamas did not help in this matter that was not their baby. That must be stated as well. They wanted to illustrate to the world that BN wants blood. So The extremes win.

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    You can't really compare the two. Anywhere Islam goes once they hit that 15-20% they take over.

    Look at how many countries were predominantly Christian just 100 years ago.

    You can't just say they are both stupid which is in itself stupid. The proof is in the pudding.

    It's not just that they hate Jews. They want all Jews and Christians DEAD. Big difference
    Yeah, I can say they're both stupid. It shouldn't take 40+ years to find some common ground and peace, unless you're really stupid.

    And you're incorrect too, Israel and Egypt (a country with Muslim majority) signed a peace agreement back in 1980 which has been largely mutually beneficial.

    I understand that Bibi needs to appease to certain political crowd in his country, but shedding more blood is never the answer.

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    Trying to find common ground with someone who wants all Jews dead.

    Bibi just needs to stop being stupid, and let Hamas have his way. Got it.

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    That's not what I said at all.

    I said the US didn't have to side with one side of stupid, even if less stupid than the other one. That directly caused deaths. There was a framework in place that made all this preventable.

    Disagree?

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    Also nice backtrack from your Islam tale

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    That's not what I said at all.

    I said the US didn't have to side with one side of stupid, even if less stupid than the other one. That directly caused deaths. There was a framework in place that made all this preventable.

    Disagree?
    I disagree with everything you have said so far, yes.

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    I disagree with everything you have said so far, yes.
    ok, state your case.

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    And to the heart of the matter.

    Israel has all the cards with power in this latest clash. They could have made contingency plans to let Gaza riot without bloodshed on their part. They have the technical and strategic means to do this. They did not. BN purposefully shed blood.

    Hamas did not help in this matter that was not their baby. That must be stated as well. They wanted to illustrate to the world that BN wants blood. So The extremes win.
    You can't run diplomacy with amateurs. It costs actual human lives.

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    ok, state your case.
    I already did. What were you specifically wondering about?

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    I already did. What were you specifically wondering about?
    What's your counter argument that the US didn't need to side with Israel, open an embassy in Jerusalem, despite being fully aware of the potential consequences, and the deaths that followed?

    I don't see that in your posts. I read some stuff how Islam can't have a peaceful relationship with Israel, which we both now know is false.

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    What's your counter argument that the US didn't need to side with Israel, open an embassy in Jerusalem, despite being fully aware of the potential consequences, and the deaths that followed?
    Trump made a promise to do so quite some time ago, so it would good for him to keep his word on that. What specific political consequences were you referring to, and how do you figure "the US" knew about "the deaths that followed"?

    I don't see that in your posts. I read some stuff how Islam can't have a peaceful relationship with Israel, which we both now know is false.
    Are you familiar with Koran? Islam can only exist with Islam.

    "Prophet, make war on unbelievers and hypocrites, and deal rigorously
    with them." - Sura 9:73

    "Let not the unbelievers think they will ever get away. They have not
    the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at
    your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of Allah
    and your enemy... Prophet, (Muhammed) rouse the faithful to arms!
    If they (the non-Muslims) incline to peace (accept Islam) make
    peace with them." - Sura 8:59

    "If they reject your judgement, know that it is Allah's wish to scourge
    them for their sins." - Sura 5:49


    "Believers (Muslims), take neither Jews nor Christians to be your
    friends: they are friends with one another.
    Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number,
    and God does not guide (those Jewish and Christian) wrong-doers." - Sura 5:51

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    You can't run diplomacy with amateurs. It costs actual human lives.

    Absolutely.

    Trump does not get this.

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    Trump made a promise to do so quite some time ago, so it would good for him to keep his word on that. What specific political consequences were you referring to, and how do you figure "the US" knew about "the deaths that followed"?
    Trump made a promise he didn't need to make. Agree?

    You don't think the US is aware the instability of that region, and that such actions would destabilize it even more? I'm actually optimist here in thinking they're not *that* dumb, but you make me wonder.


    Are you familiar with Koran? Islam can only exist with Islam.
    I am. Are you familiar with Egypt, Turkey, India, Malaysia, Qatar, Indonesia, etc? In the real world, they seem to coexist well enough.

    Not everybody live their life through fantasy books, that's been more or less my experience.

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    lol


    Nikki Haley denies Gaza violence is related to new US Embassy in Jerusalem


    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nikk...ry?id=55178732

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    India you say? 800 years of genocide argues your sentiments. You should brush up on your history instead of blaming everything on Trump and the Americans.

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    Trump's son-in-law, mentioned today's Gaza massacre in which Israeli soldiers murdered at least 52 and maimed 1,200 unarmed Palestinians. He accused them of being the guilty ones because they protest against the Zionist theft and occupation of their land:

    "As we have seen from the protests of the last month and even today, those provoking violence are part of the problem and not part of the solution."
    The White House omitted that sentence in its official transcript. In its daily press briefing the White House called the murder committed by the Zionist army "a propaganda attempt" by Hamas and Palestinians.

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    India you say? 800 years of genocide argues your sentiments. You should brush up on your history instead of blaming everything on Trump and the Americans.
    we're talking present day... dodge fully noted though...

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    Trump's son-in-law, mentioned today's Gaza massacre in which Israeli soldiers murdered at least 52 and maimed 1,200 unarmed Palestinians. He accused them of being the guilty ones because they protest against the Zionist theft and occupation of their land:

    "As we have seen from the protests of the last month and even today, those provoking violence are part of the problem and not part of the solution."
    The White House omitted that sentence in its official transcript. In its daily press briefing the White House called the murder committed by the Zionist army "a propaganda attempt" by Hamas and Palestinians.
    A vocal supporter of Israel, Haley walked out of the Security Council meeting in protest before the Palestinian representative addressed the chamber.

    such animals...

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    India you say? 800 years of genocide argues your sentiments. You should brush up on your history instead of blaming everything on Trump and the Americans.
    Both India and Pakistan have the bomb and yet they're both still there.

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    Easily.

    Israel is boxing themselves into a corner with any fallback on humanity issues.

    Haaretz is lambasting BN.
    And this is a hopeful difference.
    Israelis can speak out against their own government.
    The shift will come. They see what’s happening.
    Except, they've elected netanyahu 3 times in a row. And they knew what they were getting, he'd been pm before. And even if most Israelis realized that murdering unarmed palestinians before they even cross the border is wrong, the military industrial complex is practically headquartered there, and if it isnt netanyahu theyll find another warmonger to keep business going, and they'll lock themselves into power for another 10 straight years like bibi has.

    the "free press" telling you what happened after the fact doesnt undo the damage done by powerful people abusing their positions, its about as helpful as the NBA 2 minute report

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