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  1. #76
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    The hate for Durant is hilarious here. If he came here he'd suddenly be better than Michael Jordan.

    "You know who's fackin' great? Johnny Damon... love that guy"

    following year

    "You know who's a fackin' bum? Johnny Damon... screw that guy.."

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    He hardly eviscerated us. The Thunder needed massive help from the refs every time they beat us. And he had great teams behind him each time.
    2012 series: 29.5 ppg 7.5 rpg 5.3 apg 1.7 stl 1.5 BLK 53% FG

    He destroyed us, especially in game 6. Ref help or not, they came back from an 18 point deficit and made all the big plays down the stretch in that game.

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    2012 series: Ref help or not,
    How do you discount ref help?
    Durbetta doesn't get his stats and OKC loses the game with fair refs.

    Even 2015 with the trip by Neanderthal on Danny Green at the end of the game. Instead of Spurs 3-2, OKC is gifted the game and 3-2 lead.

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    How do you discount ref help?
    Durbetta doesn't get his stats and OKC loses the game with fair refs.

    Even 2015 with the trip by Neanderthal on Danny Green at the end of the game. Instead of Spurs 3-2, OKC is gifted the game and 3-2 lead.
    Because he didn't even average 10 FTA per game in the series, and even then it's not like every call he got was bogus.

    We choked in that series, plain and simple. There is absolutely no excuse for losing 4 games in a row to a team in the playoffs, barring injury.

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    I’ve always taught KD is a taller and longer version of Kobe, in terms of offensive skill. That added reach simply makes him unstoppable. It’s such a shame he joined thr Warriors. He had Top 10 GOAT potential.

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    Would you have said that before he signed with the Warriors? The only thing that's changed is it obviously made life easier on both sides of the ball; but it's not like he got better.

    Then there's the matter of the positional designation. I know he's perimeter oriented, but he's really a nominal PF in today's game. He's played 55 and 77% of his minutes their respectively since signing with them. He only starts at SF because they have Green at PF and don't want to overburden him by playing him full time at C and like many prominent players, he'd probably chafe at being announced and listed a position up.

    It just doesn't seem right to place a player with the same measurements as Duncan (his weight towards the end) in the same category as Jordan. I'd place him in a category with James, Johnson and Bird. All were/are essentially hybrids between a big and a guard.

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    I’ve always taught KD is a taller and longer version of Kobe, in terms of offensive skill. That added reach simply makes him unstoppable. It’s such a shame he joined thr Warriors. He had Top 10 GOAT potential.
    Durant is basically T Mac with better teammates in a perimeter friendly league.

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    Durant is basically T Mac with better teammates in a perimeter friendly league.
    Also a good, if not better comparison.

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    It's ironic that the same people pointing the finger at Durant for joining the Dubs are always LeBron stans 99% of the time, a guy who made a career out of hopping from team to team and never won squat without at least 2 other all stars around him

    They're quick to mention the 73 wins but not that they choked a 3-1 lead in the Finals. Durant made the Warriors the juggernaut and dynasty we see today. Without him you basically have your whole operation relying on the health status of Steph's fragile ankles.

    Bottom line, the Durant hate is nothing but sour grapes from LeBron stans, salty because Durant is the one standing between LeBron and the Ghost. Do not worry though, LeBron will do what he's been known to do, hop onto.
    And King haters generally are Kobe fans and hate LeBron for stacking a team in Miami when Kobe was always piggybacked by a top 3 center for his rings.

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    Durant is basically T Mac with better teammates in a perimeter friendly league.
    Ding ding ding. And better injury luck

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    And King haters generally are Kobe fans and hate LeBron for stacking a team in Miami when Kobe was always piggybacked by a top 3 center for his rings.
    shiiiiit ...Jordan fans are the biggest LeBron haters, especially in the media.Some Kobe fans who werent true Lakers fans are now LEBRON or STEPH fans now

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    This was probably his best season yet, especially with no Curry for quite a stretch... how did this guy not make the MVP top 3???

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    He had "0" help last night.
    Durant carried the Warriors. Green sucked, Klay and Curry could not hit anything.

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    tmac was great but not anywhere close to the servant, tbh

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    KD played the same way games 1 and 2.. When the Warriors won, he's the GOAT, when they lost nobody talks about him. Gotta love narratives

    If you're a Rockets fan you better hope they keep forcing the ball to KD.. Rockets probably win in 6 games

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    Kevin Durant is the 2nd best player in the world.

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    tmac was great but not anywhere close to the servant, tbh
    Arguable. If TMac is the 1st option on a team that allows him to shoot open shots all day, coupled with him not being allowed to be guarded, TMac could have been as good an offensive player as Durant. Both are long, both can shoot (Durant better), both can drive (TMac better), TMac was the better playmaker, Durant better running around screens, but both actually have a similar skill set.

    On defense, both have the tools to be dominant, but then neither of them were. The can turn it on, but I think both under achieved on that front based on their physical tools.

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    lol

    tmac on his best day was a 45% FG guy.. and shot 33% from 3 for his career. volume scorer. very talented one, at that. more athletically gifted than kirby and less to show for it. underrated playmaker though

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    Durant was a 45% or so shooter before Westbrook and Harden stepped up and took pressure of off him. The same would happen for McGrady if he got better teammates to open up shooting for him. Not to mention the change in defensive rules that clearly benefits offensive perimeter players in today's NBA. McGrady, Carter, Allen would have benefitted hugely in today's NBA. Conversely, players like Iverson wouldn't.

    I am not saying TMac's career is comparable to Durant. I am not. I think Durant easily > TMac career wise, already, but it is due more to cir stances than skills. Players are beneficiaries of cir stances (or victims in some cases). I don't believe Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Barkley ,McHale, or Moses would have close to the careers they did if they played in today's NBA, but on the other hand, I think players like Miller, Mullin, Robinson, Garnett, Sheed, Rick Barry, Kemp would be greater in todays' NBA.

    Also, I haven't seen people mentioned it much around here, but Durant's move benefited Curry the most. Curry has been pretty much exposed as a regular season player in the last few playoffs. He is still all-star level, or even super-star level in the playoffs, but his effectiveness clearly is no where close to God like abilities in the regular season. GSW is very much beatable without Durant the last few years even though they'd still be favourites, Durant just made them 16-1 dominant, and people will overlook Curry's dip in play in the playoffs because they won..

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    Durbeta has never accomplished anything without stacked rosters and another MVP holding his hand.
    Pretty much, also scoring a lot by itself means nothing, just stat padding crap.

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    Durant was a 45% or so shooter before Westbrook and Harden stepped up and took pressure of off him. The same would happen for McGrady if he got better teammates to open up shooting for him. Not to mention the change in defensive rules that clearly benefits offensive perimeter players in today's NBA. McGrady, Carter, Allen would have benefitted hugely in today's NBA. Conversely, players like Iverson wouldn't.

    I am not saying TMac's career is comparable to Durant. I am not. I think Durant easily > TMac career wise, already, but it is due more to cir stances than skills. Players are beneficiaries of cir stances (or victims in some cases). I don't believe Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Barkley ,McHale, or Moses would have close to the careers they did if they played in today's NBA, but on the other hand, I think players like Miller, Mullin, Robinson, Garnett, Sheed, Rick Barry, Kemp would be greater in todays' NBA.

    Also, I haven't seen people mentioned it much around here, but Durant's move benefited Curry the most. Curry has been pretty much exposed as a regular season player in the last few playoffs. He is still all-star level, or even super-star level in the playoffs, but his effectiveness clearly is no where close to God like abilities in the regular season. GSW is very much beatable without Durant the last few years even though they'd still be favourites, Durant just made them 16-1 dominant, and people will overlook Curry's dip in play in the playoffs because they won..
    durant shot sub 46% exactly one time and that was as a 19 year old rookie on a team where the second leading scorer was chris wilcox. tmac's efficiency declined after he joined a rockets team with more help

    you have this odd habit of trying to make a point first and doing the research second, trying to find odd ways to jam the facts to try to make your original point valid. same with the duncan/pistons comparison to lebron vs raptors/pacers

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    durant shot sub 46% exactly one time and that was as a 19 year old rookie
    Playoffs.
    You know, when it matters.

    fgs and treys
    35% and 28% 2010
    44 and 33 2011
    45 and 31 2013
    46 and 34 2014
    43 and 28 2016

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    Playoffs.
    You know, when it matters.

    fgs and treys
    35% and 28% 2010
    44 and 33 2011
    45 and 31 2013
    46 and 34 2014
    43 and 28 2016
    you appear to have excluded some years ... how about when he shot 55% in the 2012 finals?

    he's a career 47% postseason shooter, and you've included literally all the postseasons where he shot below his average

    this is what i'm talkin about, you guys make up your minds first, and then after the fact try to bend the evidence/facts in your favor. it's a dishonest approach

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    you appear to have excluded some years ... how about when he shot 55% in the 2012 finals?

    he's a career 47% postseason shooter, and you've included literally all the postseasons where he shot below his average

    this is what i'm talkin about, you guys make up your minds first, and then after the fact try to bend the evidence/facts in your favor. it's a dishonest approach
    2012 the obviously rigged series vs Spurs.

    Of course I left out his stat padding years with the Golden gots.

    buy a clue.

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    2012 the obviously rigged series vs Spurs.

    Of course I left out his stat padding years with the Golden gots.

    buy a clue.
    how did the rigging magically make his shots go into the hoop

    and were the entire playoffs rigged or just that series?

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