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    She doesn't have it right.

    What's the right way to have it?

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    What's the right way to have it?
    The FISA warrant did not depend solely on the dossier. Pretending it did is disingenuous. Also the Trump dip s knew they were dealing directly with agents of the Russian government.

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    The FISA warrant did not depend solely on the dossier. Pretending it did is disingenuous. Also the Trump dip s knew they were dealing directly with agents of the Russian government.
    She didn’t say it depended solely on the dossier. So what did she get wrong?

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    She didn’t say it depended solely on the dossier. So what did she get wrong?
    So he doesn't have it right either? Can someone tell me what is "right" in this?

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    She didn’t say it depended solely on the dossier. So what did she get wrong?
    She sure didn't mention anything else, did she?

    Also the Trump dip s knew they were dealing directly with agents of the Russian government.

    Also, what is your current conspiracy theory, TSA?

    You've been dodging that for days.

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    So he doesn't have it right either? Can someone tell me what is "right" in this?
    He thinks leaving out crucial information is being right.

    I'm all for getting all the information out there.

    TSA is not.

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    He thinks leaving out crucial information is being right.

    I'm all for getting all the information out there.

    TSA is not.
    Thank you for the clarification and indulging me.

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    Thank you for the clarification and indulging me.
    Oversimplifying something like this works for Darrin.

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    Which dossier information are you talking about, Darrin?

    Be specific.

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    She sure didn't mention anything else, did she?

    Also the Trump dip s knew they were dealing directly with agents of the Russian government.

    Also, what is your current conspiracy theory, TSA?

    You've been dodging that for days.
    My theory has always been this was a set up to frame Trump as colluding with Russians. No, I’m not going to walk you through it as it’s fluid. The Unraveling isn’t a single event.

    Did government officials use unverified political oppo research from Russia to obtain a FISA warrant against a Trump campaign member yes or no?

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    My theory has always been this was a set up to frame Trump as colluding with Russians. No, I’m not going to walk you through it as it’s fluid. The Unraveling isn’t a single event.

    Did government officials use unverified political oppo research from Russia to obtain a FISA warrant against a Trump campaign member yes or no?
    Yes.

    Why can't you just say what your current theory is, TSA? We know you will change it as soon as blog tells you to. You're very obedient when it comes to that.

    So tell us the current conspiracy theory with the caveat that you won't believe it in the future.

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    He thinks leaving out crucial information is being right.

    I'm all for getting all the information out there.

    TSA is not.
    The people who have actually read the Page FISA application said the dossier was relied upon heavily. Would that make the dossier crucial to obtaining the warrant yes or no? What did McCabe say about the importance of the dossier and the granting of the warrant?

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    The people who have actually read the Page FISA application said the dossier was relied upon heavily. Would that make the dossier crucial to obtaining the warrant yes or no? What did McCabe say about the importance of the dossier and the granting of the warrant?
    I never said it wasn't important.

    Tell us your current conspiracy theory that you will change as soon as you are told to.

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    Yes.

    Why can't you just say what your current theory is, TSA? We know you will change it as soon as blog tells you to. You're very obedient when it comes to that.

    So tell us the current conspiracy theory with the caveat that you won't believe it in the future.
    I just told you what my theory was, you quoted it.

    Is it standard practice to present unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant?

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    I never said it wasn't important.

    Tell us your current conspiracy theory that you will change as soon as you are told to.
    You try and downplay the role of the dossier every chance you get. Was the dossier important in obtaining the FISA warrant yes or no?

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    I just told you what my theory was, you quoted it.
    But how does that theory work?

    If that's all you got after a year, you're worse than a 9/11 truther.

    Is it standard practice to present unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant?
    Given the nature of FISA, I would say yes-- I believe unverified intelligence from reliable sources has often been used in FISA warrants. Enough to call it a standard practice. Sure. These are warrants for surveillance.

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    Wasn't there a comment that Page was considered too stupid by the Russians to be of use?

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    what would the govt need to show to get a FISA warrant renewed?

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    But how does that theory work?
    i just told you I’m not going to walk you through it, you quoted that as well.



    Given the nature of FISA, I would say yes-- I believe unverified intelligence from reliable sources has often been used in FISA warrants. Enough to call it a standard practice. Sure. These are warrants for surveillance.
    Christoper Steele hadn’t been to Russia in a decade.
    Christopher Steele was being paid by a firm that worked directly with Russian government officials.
    Christopher Steele was so reliable he was dropped by the FBI for lying to them.

    Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that it is standard practice to use unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant, specifically relying heavily on unverified information to obtain said warrant.

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    warrants are based on probable cause... its pretty circular to need proof before getting a warrant. getting proof is the very purpose of the warrant.

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    the only congressman who has read the full FISA warrant application has already said that none of this calls into question the integrity of the investigation or the mueller probe

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    i just told you I’m not going to walk you through it, you quoted that as well.
    Just say you have no idea how it could possibly work and you are praying that blog will tell you someday. I would respect that.

    Christoper Steele hadn’t been to Russia in a decade.
    Christopher Steele was being paid by a firm that worked directly with Russian government officials.
    Christopher Steele was so reliable he was dropped by the FBI for lying to them.

    Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that it is standard practice to use unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant, specifically relying heavily on unverified information to obtain said warrant.
    Yeah, they use it to spy on suspected terrorists.

    That was easy.

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    Wasn't there a comment that Page was considered too stupid by the Russians to be of use?
    Unsure. Plenty of comments about how stupid you are right here on this very message board.

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    warrants are based on probable cause... its pretty circular to need proof before getting a warrant. getting proof is the very purpose of the warrant.

    Whoa, settle down there fella with all your big timing lawyer talk.

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