Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

The sad truth is there is no way that TSA can cobble together anything resembling a workable conspiracy theory given all the known facts and as more becomes known, his chance to do so becomes even more remote.

It's just like 9/11.

[RandomGuy]

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Christopher Steele was so reliable he was dropped by the FBI for lying to them.

Nunez claims

[Chucho]

The sad truth is there is no way that TSA can cobble together anything resembling a workable conspiracy theory given all the known facts and as more becomes known, his chance to do so becomes even more remote.

It's just like 9/11.

And the OIG report went absolutely nowhere too.

[Splits]

jr

no collusion

[Pavlov]

what would the govt need to show to get a FISA warrant renewed?

He will never answer this question.

One can debate the FISA application process, but what cannot be denied is that the standard for renewing the warrant is higher than that of the initial application. The Carter Page warrant passed that higher standard three times.

And that doesn't fit TSA's conspiracy nontheory.

[Splits]

wow

no collusion

[Pavlov]

And the OIG report went absolutely nowhere too.

It's not done yet, but judging from previous OIG reports like the one covering Fast and Furious, chances are it won't be everything Dennisonistas want it to be.

It has to be absolutely everything they want it to be in order for there to be anything close to an actual conspiracy.

[RandomGuy]

Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that it is standard practice to use unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant, specifically relying heavily on unverified information to obtain said warrant.

Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that the FISA warrant "heavily relied" on the Steele Dossier?

[Spurminator]

One can debate the FISA application process, but what cannot be denied is that the standard for renewing the warrant is higher than that of the initial application. The Carter Page warrant passed that higher standard three times.

FISA once ordered Verizon to turn over call information and metadata for all of its users. Essentially they used unverified su ion against the entire (Verizon-using) population of the United States. Reasonable su ion has been the standard since GWB expanded its powers in the mid-00's.

Trumpbots who don't like this should call for their representatives to rein in FISA's powers. They won't.

[Pavlov]

Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that the FISA warrant "heavily relied" on the Steele Dossier?

The dossier was accurate to within a few percentage points on the Roseneft deal -- so that's verified and was probably the most relevant part of the dossier used in the Page application.

But pee pee.

[Chris]

The dossier was accurate to within a few percentage points on the Roseneft deal -- so that's verified and was probably the most relevant part of the dossier used in the Page application.

But pee pee.

[RandomGuy]

Because you’re a dip who takes MSM reporting at face value.

The newest indictment has zero to do with Trump. The newest indictment is closely linked to the Clintons, the Clinton Foundation, the Podesta Group, the White House counsel to Obama/assistant to the President and special counsel in the White House for Clinton (Craig), and the associate White House counsel to Clinton (Sloan). These were the people directly involved with Manafort and his work in Ukraine and what got him indicted. None of this had anything to with Trump.

They will, it just won’t be coming from your side.

Still waitin on that Clinton connection.

[Pavlov]

lol Chris literally did what I just said.

But thanks for clearing Obama of any wrongdoing RE: the dossier, I guess.

lol

[Chris]

[Chris]

"By that weekend, as a result of consultations within these government agencies, Strzok was headed to London."

Interesting.

[TSA]

And the OIG report went absolutely nowhere too.

The OIG report hasn't been released and the release date has been pushed back due to new information/witnesses.

[Splits]

The OIG report hasn't been released and the release date has been pushed back due to new information/witnesses.

with a 2/7 off

[RandomGuy]

The dossier was accurate to within a few percentage points on the Roseneft deal -- so that's verified and was probably the most relevant part of the dossier used in the Page application.

But pee pee.

That is the problem for the people saying how politically motivated this thing is so it isn't trustworthy.

Everything that can be verified, has been.

[spurraider21]

new york times good now

[TSA]

warrants are based on probable cause... its pretty circular to need proof before getting a warrant. getting proof is the very purpose of the warrant.

FISA warrants are held to a higher standard, especially a le 1. Until Horowitz releases his findings on possible FISA abuse we are all just pissing in the wind.

[Pavlov]

CONFIMRED:

“I never saw anything that resembled a witch hunt or suggested that the bureau’s approach to the investigation was politically driven,” said Mary McCord, a 20-year Justice Department veteran and the top national security prosecutor during much of the investigation’s first nine months....

“There was a growing body of evidence that a foreign government was attempting to interfere in both the process and the debate surrounding our elections, and their job is to investigate counterintelligence,” [Senator Marco Rubio] said in an interview. “That’s what they did.”

[Chris]

Chucho trying to come in here talking about OIG reports. gtfo scrub

[TSA]

FISA once ordered Verizon to turn over call information and metadata for all of its users. Essentially they used unverified su ion against the entire (Verizon-using) population of the United States. Reasonable su ion has been the standard since GWB expanded its powers in the mid-00's.

Trumpbots who don't like this should call for their representatives to rein in FISA's powers. They won't.

dip

Trumpbots called their representatives and did exactly that

https://intelligence.house.gov/fisa-702/

[Pavlov]

CONFIRMED:

In July, a retired British spy named Christopher Steele approached a friend in the F.B.I. overseas and provided reports linking Trump campaign officials to Russia. But the do ents meandered around the F.B.I. organizational chart, former officials said. Only in mid-September, congressional investigators say, did the records reach the Crossfire Hurricane team.

[spurraider21]

FISA warrants are held to a higher standard, especially a le 1. Until Horowitz releases his findings on possible FISA abuse we are all just pissing in the wind.

no, it's still probable cause

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1805