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    Gay didn’t play well against the warriors last game FWIW... you know who did though? Right. It wasn’t Deadman either.

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    Maybe not cut but trade, specially if there’s someone they will not bring back (like we strongly suspected they were not going to pay to keep Dedmon, maybe there’s someone like that this year). But maybe they don’t yet know. They went into the season with this problem this isn’t new. So they were ready for this problem arising.

    I have thought Joff himself is kinda in the hot seat but maybe not.
    While there are bigs I would definitely take over Joff, simply switching him out still leaves the Spurs too small. Though what helps is that Lauvergne makes enough money to where he can work in a trade if combined with a guy like Forbes, Paul or White.

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    Gay didn’t play well against the warriors last game FWIW... you know who did though? Right. It wasn’t Deadman either.
    Yeah I'm talking about playoffs with a healthy roster.

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    He's not showing his cards. And the minutes restriction and injuries has forced him into lineups he wouldn't prefer. I could see a lot of small ball in crunch time in the playoffs where Pau doesn't suit us. Unlike using traditional bigs only.
    I think he needs to play those units more so they can get time together. Pop has shown he'll go small as an adjustment if he has to, so I don't doubt he'll do it this year. But he still needs to figure out if he'll have a 10th man in the playoffs and make sure that guy's ready. And Joff may cost same games in the meantime due to how scrub he is.

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    I think he needs to play those units more so they can get time together. Pop has shown he'll go small as an adjustment if he has to, so I don't doubt he'll do it this year. But he still needs to figure out if he'll have a 10th man in the playoffs and make sure that guy's ready. And Joff may cost same games in the meantime due to how scrub he is.
    Yeah he's a scrub but I wouldn't worry too much about him.

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    While there are bigs I would definitely take over Joff, simply switching him out still leaves the Spurs too small. Though what helps is that Lauvergne makes enough money to where he can work in a trade if combined with a guy like Forbes, Paul or White.
    That kinda what a I have in mind if there’s guys they won’t bring back.

    I have observed with Pop that lately he doesn’t keep guys that have no role. Like if he is bringing in a shooter whoever is the last shooter is getting cut. (Technically happened with rasual Butler who played well but was only 30% on the 3, and that’s what Pop wanted). He also cut Ray Mac for Andre Miller. I think they are prepared to be smallish already but if Joff isn’t doing what they got him for he’s the one in the hot seat. They already didn’t care about having a smaller team.

    maybe BP3 is in the hot seat, but I doubt it based on what Pop has said. However him and Derrick White are similar in size with White possibly being better (I say possibly bc since he doesn’t play we don’t really know). But you can afford to lose BP3 and just give his role to White. Pop is already playing Forbes and starting him over him. Forbes was playing 30 Min per game while BP3 rode the pine.

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    this guy is garbage

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    I miss David Lee, tbh.

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    Poor IQ and intangibles to makeup for the lack of talent..At least Dedmon had a distinctive edge in a couple of areas..

    Bad signing; but for the money, it is still less egregious of mistake than the Pau/Mills contracts..

    The Spurs offseason is still what we thought it was: horrible..

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    David Lee during his last season of his career was a trillion times better than Joffrey

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    We could run a unit with
    Parker Mills Murray
    Green Ginobil Forbes
    Kawhi Anderson Paul
    Gay Bertans Joff
    LaMarcus Pau
    But this would be to simple an great! Pau don't like to close out on screens, so he shouldn't be starting.

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    David Lee during his last season of his career was a trillion times better than Joffrey
    Lee is also a former All-Star and was a top 2 option for his team at one point. We have seen with Tim, Tony, Manu that extremely talented past-their-prime players are still far better than 26-year-olds signed for the vet min.

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    I had assumed Pop was going small so much that I was shocked Pau started. Having LMA/Pau/Joff at C and Gay/Anderson/Bertans at PF seems better even though I would want Joff even further down the line. But Pop had a chance to go small even with Kawhi hurt, and he still decided to start Pau. I'm not convinced he thinks this big rotation is a problem.
    About this. Unless they play smaller they will not take full advantage of Rudy Gay when Kawhi is fully healthy. He's got the perfect body for a small ball 4.

    I suspect Kawhi missing 27 games and then the minutes restrictions and no B2B has made Pop keep starting Pau. They started winning with the 2 big lineup anyways, and Pop is going with whatever is working right now bc he doesn't have his full options. When Kyle got hurt, he deprived Pop of another combo forward to play the style he wanted, he started Rudy Gay in Kawhi's stead for some games. Then came all this adapting back to playing with Kawhi, etc. Davis is playing well enough lately as a 4, as well.

    Anyways, eventually they will be smallish more often, but one would rather have a better, more reliable guy for Joff's spot. They have been much better off giving minutes to Davis most of the time, though the skillset is entirely different.

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    Considering he's the worst player on the team and they can't score to begin with, it should go without saying that he should never play next to Aldridge or Gasol, especially when the opposing team is starting one traditional big.

    It's gotten to the point where, even when one of Aldridge or Gasol is inactive, depending on the match-up, I'd strongly consider trying to survive the minutes the other rests with no traditional big; particularly in the 2nd half.


    He's still fine for the money. But Pop ed up big time by thinking the third-big could be a min guy. Too many folks don't get that you can't start Pau and LMA and still reliably stagger their minutes. You need a guy to compete with Joff for minutes, because that role will get minutes.
    You can. We've seen it in many games and will continue to. Aldridge's minutes are probably slightly higher than they'd prefer, but that's mostly due to injuries and their inability to blow teams out. Meanwhile, Gasol's minutes are right where they'd like them to be.

    At the same time, they definitely need a better third center option for when one of Aldridge or Gasol is unable to play or in foul trouble.

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    What's the news on this guy? Is he opting in?

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    What's the news on this guy? Is he opting in?
    http://bfy.tw/I9V6

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    Lol that was kinda funny.

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    What's the news on this guy? Is he opting in?

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    If he Opts In can we just cut him and pay his contract off?

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    I did that before posting here. I couldn't find anything. So I came here hoping that the SpursTalk insiders would have something.

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    Energetic, shoots the three, good roll man, likes to pass, likes to attack the rim, isn't afraid to bang down low. He'll be a fine Lee replacement. Not better than Lee but the Spurs don't have many options after Lee went down and Pop burned his bridges with Dedmon.
    Lol

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    Nice reach. Where did I say he was good?

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    #betterthanBell

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    Nice reach. Where did I say he was good?
    Fine lee replacement.... sad

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    Fine lee replacement.... sad
    Relative to what was out there at the time. He was the only adequate replacement hence "fine". Keep reaching though, generic ducks.

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