NFL’s Proposed National Anthem Rules: Penalties for Kneeling Being Considered

[ducks]

I downloaded windows 10 in French installed it and got it going

[clambake]

I put in motherboard on computer and it works!

great!!!!


now answer the questions

[ElNono]

You want the Federal Government to get involved. We're clearly not on the same page. Not in the same book.

You talk about free speech but you know that when you're on the clock you're speaking for the man who is paying you.

You are sitting on the fence concerning the player's lawsuits I can see, and that's understandable. You don't want to be wrong when the verdict comes in.

Free speech zones? Yeah, totally different outlook.

I don't see how "effective" the protesting is besides trolling on a national platform or virtue signaling.

Like I said earlier, it's easy to sit back and defend it because you have nothing to lose. You're not a season ticket holder. You're not an owner losing revenue because some troll wants to pander to his facebook family or the Nation of Islam.

It's the easy way out.

The old saying "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything" is highly apropos here. No one is arguing their right to protest. You can't cry foul and sue when the consequences don't align with your unintended ramifications. It's pretty sad tbh.

What I want doesn't even enter the picture here, at all. The only opinion I had in this thread is that this would likely get solved quicker if people would stop giving a about it.

I'm explaining to you what the likely and possible legal avenues are in this situation, starting from the basis that the 1st Amendment and it's protections towards free speech and assembly have a long case history of covering protests.

You can pretend that 'Muh Cons ution' only applies to the 2nd, but in the real world that's not the case. Even burning the flag as a protest is cons utionally protected speech.

Are there caveats from that protection? Sure, the government can dictate certain terms (ie: free speech zones around sensitive areas, requiring a permit, etc). Private en ies could attempt to have persons waive those rights through contracts.

There just really isn't that many options simply because the 1st Amendment is a set of heavily protected rights.

[Isitjustme?]

Funny how the NBA has basically the same rule and nobody complains about it.

You can see the rule in the NBA's official rulebook, under the “Player/Team Conduct and Dress” section, on page 61.




H. PLAYER/TEAM CONDUCT AND DRESS

(1) Each player when introduced, prior to the game, must be uniformly dressed.

(2) Players, coaches and trainers are to stand and line up in a dignified posture along the sidelines or on the foul line during the playing of the National Anthem.

(3) Coaches and assistant coaches must wear a sport coat or suit coat.

(4) While playing, players must keep their uniform shirts tucked into their pants, and no T-shirts are allowed.

Funny how a guy sits on one knee and you cry like a about it

[Nathan89]

the NBA rule was collectively bargained between the players association and the owners. that's a big difference. and the league has given the players a lot of leeway... like when those guys wore I Cant Breathe t-shirts that would was a violation technically punishable by fine. nobody was fined.

Doesn't take much leeway to have a one game t-shirt protest that nobody takes issue with. Now if they started wearing that all season then you'll have something to discuss.

[Chris]

[Pavlov]

Why should sports team owners be terrified of any president, Chris?

[Chris]

Why should sports team owners be terrified of any president, Chris?

Because they're part of the bread and circus Pavlov. I don't expect you to understand this.

[Pavlov]

Because they're part of the bread and circus Pavlov. I don't expect you to understand this.

Go ahead and explain your bread and circuses and being terrified of a president theory, Chris.

[Blake]

Because they're part of the bread and circus Pavlov. I don't expect you to understand this.

Lol bread and circus

[Chris]

Go ahead and explain your bread and circuses and being terrified of a president theory, Chris.

I don't speak for NFL owners Pavlov. I knew you wouldn't understand the analogy. That's OK.

[Blake]

I don't speak for NFL owners Pavlov. I knew you wouldn't understand the analogy. That's OK.

The ol "you just don't understand"

None of you!

[Pavlov]

I don't speak for NFL owners Pavlov. I knew you wouldn't understand the analogy. That's OK.

Explain the analogy, Chris.

[benefactor]

lol ducks the fighter

I got 50 on Chinook

[hater]

NFL is married to the military. From their flying jets at games, US military commercials, to veteran salutes, etc, etc

Im sure military pours lots of money so this move makes sense IMO to preserve NFL military mix alive.

You cant have nigas disrespecting the flag if you want to recruit as many kids as possible to send them to die for Israel, oil companies or other causes like that

Makes sense. Not surprised at this move. NFL is basically the sports wing of the MIC

[leemajors]

they're worried about upsetting a giant child nursing a 30 year old grudge, neat.

[ducks]

NFL is married to the military. From their flying jets at games, US military commercials, to veteran salutes, etc, etc

Im sure military pours lots of money so this move makes sense IMO to preserve NFL military mix alive.

You cant have nigas disrespecting the flag if you want to recruit as many kids as possible to send them to die for Israel, oil companies or other causes like that

Makes sense. Not surprised at this move. NFL is basically the sports wing of the MIC

BUT

I'm a veteran, and I don't feel disrespected.

I think it is awesome, and further note that the idea CAME from a veteran.

How's that for a fact?

says it is not but he wants to ban all guns also

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/poll-nf...193906840.html


Fans want players to stand

[Chris]

[Trill Clinton]

hmmm...take a knee during the anthem or die during the anthem. i'll take a knee, thanks.

[Pavlov]

lol no

Kneeling was a veteran's idea.

[Spurminator]

I'm guessing very few people would choose death over taking a knee during the National Anthem. If they did, they probably have several screws loose. That's a dumb reason to die.

[ducks]

I really don't get why this became the big "issue" that it did. Fining players for political protests on the field is absolutely not a violation of the first amendment. The first amendment protects against the government in the event they try to pass laws that would censure the people or take actions against those that exercise that freedom. However, the NFL is a business, not a government en y. Most businesses are in business for the sole purpose of making money. At the very least, it is typically at the top of the list of reasons. When their employees engage in actions that cause loss of capital, customer base, etc. then they are really left with little choice but to address the problem appropriately. I have no problem at all with the player's protest in and of itself, I just feel they chose the wrong platform to express it.

[ducks]

Report: NFL players weigh sitting out season until Colin Kaepernick is signed
http://amp.ktvu.com/news/report-nfl-...mpression=true


We shall see 40k a day fine adds up quickly

[Chinook]

I'm guessing very few people would choose death over taking a knee during the National Anthem. If they did, they probably have several screws loose. That's a dumb reason to die.

Yeah, it's like, is your life so worthless? Do you care so little for your families that you'd make them struggle without you for a ing piece of cloth? What makes you any different than ISIS folks?