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    No clarity. It's what you do when you got nothing. You still felt the need to add some blather though; you must not've been feeling confident.
    lol I gave you all the primary sources you demanded. What more could there be?

    You still have yet to produce a quote from home saying he wasn't at the shooting.

    Where is it, derp?

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    First off, AP peddles all types of BS. "Reputable" is just what you want to tell yourself at the end of the day.

    So, your thought is that that drama queen suffered a traumatic event (if we're going by that teacher's supplemental account) and then went home to chill and then decided he needed to rush back to the school? Come on, bro; use the common sense that God gave you. At a minimum, you know something here is amiss.
    Ridiculous. What evidence do you have that AP fabricates stories or quotes? That's your claim. That teacher was all over the news for her heroic act, not just AP (a cursory search for Ashley Kurth would tell you as much).

    I'm not in the kid's brain, I have no idea what he was thinking, nor I need to know either, that's completely besides the point.

    Do you understand the ridiculousness of what you're engaging on? There's no two sets of events here. He was at the school during the shooting, per first hand witness account.

    Even the en y that created the bull you're riding on retracted it already, but you keep going? And you tell me to use common sense? At this point you gotta be trolling, tbh.

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    lol I gave you all the primary sources you demanded. What more could there be?

    You still have yet to produce a quote from home saying he wasn't at the shooting.

    Where is it, derp?
    He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.

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    What a crock of . He wouldn't have evacuated the school and went home without knowing something had went down. The bull you try to tell yourself.
    He along with other students were evacuated. Of course he knew went down. He was there for it and took videos while school was on lockdown. He then went home. I know, it takes a serious psycho to want to go home and be with parents after an event like that, but that’s what he did. Later media gathered at school to do interviews and he headed back.

    No conspiracy required.

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    He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.
    That's you saying that.

    Where is the quote from Hogg himself saying he wasn't at the school during the shooting?

    I gave you quotes directly from him. You haven't.

    Still waiting for you, derp.

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    He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.
    Yup. After the shooting he was evacuated and went home. Then, when he was home, he saw the media was doing interviews and he peddled his bike weally weally fast to get there to be an activist journalist.

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    You don't know why lies and propaganda in an attempt to take away rights and further the police state makes people concerned? More of that common sense God gave you thing, bro.
    There's a huge difference between 'concern' and 'personally mad/angry'. That *IS* common sense. If your conspiracy theories make you actually mad/angry at people you don't know, you need help. Like, professional help.

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    Ridiculous. What evidence do you have that AP fabricates stories or quotes? That's your claim. That teacher was all over the news for her heroic act, not just AP (a cursory search for Ashley Kurth would tell you as much).

    I'm not in the kid's brain, I have no idea what he was thinking, nor I need to know either, that's completely besides the point.

    Do you understand the ridiculousness of what you're engaging on? There's no two sets of events here. He was at the school during the shooting, per first hand witness account.

    Even the en y that created the bull you're riding on retracted it already, but you keep going? And you tell me to use common sense? At this point you gotta be trolling, tbh.
    The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

    And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, . You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/white...p-trump-2018-5

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    He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.
    He did what with his bike?

    The peddowed gate.

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    The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

    And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, . You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/white...p-trump-2018-5
    No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

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    The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

    And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, . You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/white...p-trump-2018-5
    lol McCain link

    You need to take a deep breath and see what the nicer people are trying to tell you.

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    The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

    And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, . You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/white...p-trump-2018-5
    Wrong link?

    But I don't even need it. Let's put together all your claims (without a shred of evidence) so far:
    1) Kid wasn't at school during shooting
    2) Teacher lies for kid
    3) Kid said he was not aware of shooting
    4) None of the other 65 people in the room came out and corroborated that kid wasn't at school for shooting and that the teacher was lying

    We know 1) is false, because the creator of said fake news, already admitted it took a quote out of context, and retracted the claim.

    2, 3, 4? All your claims. Since you did your 'simple detective' work, lets see it.

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    Or were all the other 65 people 'in' (wink, wink) on it?

    You tell me to use common sense, but what you're doing is taking a huge leap of faith. I don't do faith.

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    Someone call 911. We just witnessed a murder.

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    Also, would be good to know how AP fabricates stories too, tbh... as far as I know, anything that's not opinion is reputable.

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    Or were all the other 65 people 'in' (wink, wink) on it?

    You tell me to use common sense, but what you're doing is taking a huge leap of faith. I don't do faith.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-f...ing-a-massacre

    65 people don't have to be in on it. In all that chaos, it'd be very easy to figure he was there whether he was there or not.

    It's not a leap of faith at all. The people in that room were all aware that there was a shooter. Hogg said he only became aware when he saw it on TV. I wouldn't even call what you have as faith; I'd call it just a willingness to completely ignore a glaring contradiction. Why? I don't know. It's not like you're stupid.

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-f...ing-a-massacre

    65 people don't have to be in on it. In all that chaos, it'd be very easy to figure he was there whether he was there or not.

    It's not a leap of faith at all. The people in that room were all aware that there was a shooter. Hogg said he only became aware when he saw it on TV. I wouldn't even call what you have as faith; I'd call it just a willingness to completely ignore a glaring contradiction. Why? I don't know. It's not like you're stupid.
    No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-f...ing-a-massacre

    65 people don't have to be in on it. In all that chaos, it'd be very easy to figure he was there whether he was there or not.

    It's not a leap of faith at all. The people in that room were all aware that there was a shooter. Hogg said he only became aware when he saw it on TV. I wouldn't even call what you have as faith; I'd call it just a willingness to completely ignore a glaring contradiction. Why? I don't know. It's not like you're stupid.
    - Where did Hogg said this?
    - The teacher was one of those people in the room, she admitted to grabbing the kid and putting him in a closet.
    - Why would she lie?
    - Even if there were 65 people and a lot of commotion, they put them inside a closet. There's obviously more than just the teacher that saw him. Yet, nobody else claimed he was not at school.
    - What's the glaring contradiction?

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    Someone call 911. We just witnessed a murder.
    Derp thought taking on El was a good idea.

    They dont call him derp for nothing.

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    Let me source the retraction, BTW

    https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf...ng.-im-sorry./

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    Derp thought taking on El was a good idea.

    They dont call him derp for nothing.
    ugh, there's no such thing.

    Spurtacular is free to have his opinion, tbh... as wrong as I might think it is.

    Like I told him, I find concerning there appears to be a personal beef with this individual, for whatever reason. He could be a hack, for all I know, but there's no doubt he was at school that day.

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    ugh, there's no such thing.

    Spurtacular is free to have his opinion, tbh... as wrong as I might think it is.

    Like I told him, I find concerning there appears to be a personal beef with this individual, for whatever reason. He could be a hack, for all I know, but there's no doubt he was at school that day.
    Derp is simply taking his marching orders from the breitbart and Alex Jone's crowd. They started the beef with the high school kid.

    Then they couldn't stand Hogg actually stood up and wiped the floor with them.

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    Derp is simply taking his marching orders from the breitbart and Alex Jone's crowd. They started the beef with the high school kid.

    Then they couldn't stand Hogg actually stood up and wiped the floor with them.
    I would think that of Chris, but not Spurtacular.

    I might not agree with a lot of his takes, but he's not above having a good discussion. That said, he fell for basically a photoshop of real news. It happens to a lot of people these days.

    What we can do is respectfully disagree and make them aware, then it's up to them.

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    Derp is simply taking his marching orders from the breitbart and Alex Jone's crowd. They started the beef with the high school kid.

    Then they couldn't stand Hogg actually stood up and wiped the floor with them.
    This is what happens they get their "facts" from repug slime.

    Then he doesn't wanna look stupid and in doing so, looks like a ing dumb .

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    I would think that of Chris, but not Spurtacular.

    I might not agree with a lot of his takes, but he's not above having a good discussion. That said, he fell for basically a photoshop of real news. It happens to a lot of people these days.

    What we can do is respectfully disagree and make them aware, then it's up to them.
    only other time I’ve seen you have a discussion with him in the political forum was the snopes=cia thread which was an equally trivial “discussion “. I could be missing some other exchanges you two have had

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