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CP0 had courtside seats to the show. I don't think he enjoyed it as much as I did:
Behind Magic, of course. I think so tbh. He already whooped the Kang's ass twice while putting up these playoff numbers:
If he goes on and beats the Kang again it will leave no doubt. Discuss sons.
CP0 had courtside seats to the show. I don't think he enjoyed it as much as I did:
watch this loser get 0 fmvp votes AGAIN
curry hasn't done much for his legacy in these playoffs tbh...
yeah, he played well in the pelicans series that was never in doubt. and his point totals against houston weren't bad, but he was pretty invisible for much of the series. only really felt his impact in games 3 and 7.
he'll need a big finals series if you want this postseason to elevate his legacy imo
Curry really needs a few absolutely legendary series against elite opposition to cement his status.
The narrative right now for him is that he is great and all, central to their iden y and the success, but that in the finals he tends to be a bit too "normal". His absolute highs have mostly come in regular season games and against low-level opposition rather than against the Cavs or with Kawhi guarding him.
He needs something like LeBron's game 6 against Boston in 2012 or games 6 and 7 against the Spurs in 2013, Dirk's game 4 v. OKC or game 2 v. Miami in 2012, Wade's series against Dallas and Detroit in 06, Duncan's 2003 series against the Lakers, or Shaq's entire 2000-01 playoffs.
The good news is that after Magic, the second spot on the all-time PG list is very much up for debate. Most old-timers would probably swear by Oscar (let alone Cousy) but the much longer careers that players have nowadays, the 3pt shot, will help Curry.
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Well the question is about PGs, so I think his requirement for a 'legendary' series is overrated. How many PGs have had such a series? Magic? Who else?
Yes, he already is..it's the weakest position of all, the bar is pretty low
Other than Magic and 1990 Isiah, there isn't another PG with a particularly impressive playoff run in comparison..Iguodala's Finals MVP robbery created a false perception(would have been like Danny Green winning over Parker and Duncan in 2013 if 6 didn't happen)
1. Magic
2. Curry
3. Paul
4. Thomas
5. Stockton
6. Nash
7. Payton
8. Westbrook
9. Kidd
10. Maybe a pity selection of Oscar Robertson out of respect for old timers
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 05-29-2018 at 05:09 PM.
Well as HarlemHeat also says, it's probably the weakest position in terms of legendary players. There really is no second clear cut after Magic. If he wants to separate himself from others he needs to do what other players that get mentioned in "best of all time at their positions" debates have done, and that is take over key games and series in the playoffs.
I think being a back to back MVP (unanimous for second), best 3PT shooter in the history of NBA, and probably 4-5 rings clearly separates himself from the rest of the PGs.
For those who rank Stockton above Nash, what are your reasons? Nash was a better shooter, and was also an expert at weaving into the paint for a layup or dish, making him somewhat of a Curry Lite.
Thing about Curry is, he can play ty for 38 minutes and go off for 5 minutes and end up with 40 points. He's unlike any scorer we've ever seen in that regard. So a bad game for him where he starts off poor, he can go supernova in the 3rd and you're 15 points in the hole when you came in with a 10pt lead. It's a different world.
Once he was overrated, then he caught up, now he's underrated because Durant takes a lot of the credit.
Nash is up there. You'd have to have seen Stockton play a lot to know the difference. You cannot get that from highlight videos and stat sheets.
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Great shooter tho
If stockton played on that 7 seconds or less suns team he would be as good or better imo
eh, close enough
He’s been lucky. Only two high leverage playoff series with equal teams opposing each other. 2016 WCF and NBA Finals. He came up big in the 3-1defecit vs OKC pistol whipping Westbrick the last 3 games. Came up super small in 2016 Finals.
His 3 championships, counting this year, his teams had overwhelming talent edge.
He was about 65-70% in 2016 IIRC.
these silly ass-licking narratives
Well Nash has the same personal achievements without having Durant/Klay/Donkey/Iggy to win him the rings. And Nash clearly hasn't separated himself from the rest. Infact he is not even mentioned alongside the top players of his generation, even Iverson gets more recognition somehow.
Because Nash has the most dubious back-to-back MVPs of all of the winners
Curry's 2014-15 MVP season was better than any of Nash's seasons, not to even speak of 2015-16, which is arguably a top 5 regular season in NBA history. Curry's peak is significantly higher than Nash's, has the hardware (both of Nash's were controversial), and I don't know how anyone can imply Curry to carried to rings. Like HH mentioned, he would be the FMVP in 2015 in any other year (26/6/5/2) w/o the weird LeBron narrative with (it's like giving Artest the FMVP in 2010 over Kobe).
Note: at least one of Nash's MVPs belong to Kobe. The Fake News media didn't want him to have it after Vail, Colorado. SMH
For most gy?
Could be.
Ringing only will not push those guys below Magic aside.
When I consider "best" I look at many things including comprehensive dominance for a long period of time or having stellar series from time to time, not just ringing. Ringing is collective. Being the best at something is less collective, if you may.
So I'd say Curry is a great shooter, probably one of the best.
But there have been PG such as Stockton, Kidd, Thomas, Cousy, and I can even throw Parker and Nash in there. I'm sure I'm missing a few
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