Your Thoughts ?

[cutewizard]

Probably should've been co-MVP. Manu didn't get enough NBA accolades for how good he was. That said, in that series, Tim was not only playing against the two best defensive bigs, but he also had bone spurs and could barely move. So the fact that he was as efficient as he was under those cir stances, is fairly incredible. But I think he won the MVP for the judges due to that third quarter stretch in game 7 when he really put the Spurs on his back.

The only regret about Tim getting it is that Tim has a room full of NBA accolades. Manu never got enough recognition.

[cutewizard]

I recently watched the entire NBA final series of 2005 and I still believe Manu should have won over Duncan or at least they should have shared it if it's possible. Over the entire series, it was Manu who mostly carried the team. People tend to look only at the last game.

People forget but Detroit was a really really good team and very well coached. Detroit used to keep teams scoring in the 80s or low 90s every game. It was very tough to score against those guys. Their starting 5 was really really good. Hamilton was a true #2 who could hit you for 30 pts every game - he had all the shooting skills. Billups was a great PG with a great 3 range - he wasn't asked to score but I remember he would score a 3 here and there to destroy any momentum. Prince was 3 with a huge wingspan, very long and athletic - prone to block layups, etc. And finally the Wallace boys were the best rim protectors in the league aside from Duncan himself.

The previous year they had dismantled the favorite lakers who were super stacked - I remember Detroit going into that NBA final were more than underdogs. I remember no one gave a shot at Detroit to get the lakers. We are talking about Prime Kobe with pretty-much prime Shaq with Malone, Payton, Prime Fisher, etc coached by one of the best coaches to have ever coached in the NBA

That Detroit Pistons team versus these Warriors would be fun to watch.......

[SpurOutofTownFan]

That Detroit Pistons team versus these Warriors would be fun to watch.......

indeed

[cd021]

Duncan was compared to his '99 and '03 performances-which didn't stack up but was still great 20 ppg, 14 rpg, 2 bpg.

Manu averaged ~ 19ppg, 6 rpg, 4 apg and 1 steal on about 50%/39%/85%

advanced numbers favor Manu,- such as TS% Duncan shot poorly from the floor and was only a +3 net rtg and 47% TS, compared to Manu's +14 and a TS% of 63.6 percent

Manu should've won it.

Would've been cool to have Finals MVP's breakdown like this; Duncan (2) Manu (1), Parker (1), Kawhi (1)

[DMC]

"Here's a video... offer something substational in response"

OP offers nothing - asks for something in return.

I've never been motivated to watch a video to argue with a point the OP didn't make. Plus it doesn't matter what should have happened 13 years ago. Pe ion your government for a redress of grievances, if that's even allowed.

The real question is who would have won the MVP in 2013 had the Spurs won..? Danny Green? Gary Neal?

Did Kawhi deserve it.

[Seventyniner]

For me, it should have been tim every time. Because FMVP is stupid when the conference finals or even semifinals is often the most difficult series (wasnt around for 99, but that was the case for 2003 (lakers and mavs > nets), 2007 (nugs, suns, jazz > cavs), and arguably 2014 as well (okc vs heat). And over the course of all of those playoffs, tim was the backbone and most irreplaceable on the team.

If there was an award for best player in the playoffs, instead of just the Finals, Tim would have at least 4 and maybe 5. Of course, in that case you could make an argument for giving it to LeBron even when he loses in the Finals.

[Maj_G]

Manu would have been the MVP had Pop not benched him. In today's NBA he is the MPV. That does not take away anything Tim did, but there is no doubt that Manu was the Heart and Soul of that team.

[TheGreatYacht]

Manu would have been the MVP had Pop not benched him. In today's NBA he is the MPV. That does not take away anything Tim did, but there is no doubt that Manu was the Heart and Soul of that team.

Now type this without a penis on your lip

[Maj_G]

Now type this without a penis on your lip

Manu would have been the MVP had Pop not benched him. In today's NBA he is the MPV. That does not take away anything Tim did, but there is no doubt that Manu was the Heart and Soul of that team.

[duncan2k5]

Yet, in the voting that year there was a difference of just one vote, and nowadays most people say Manu should have got it over Duncan. But yeah, no one would argue for Manu?

You can vote without having watch the series... You DO know that... Right? A 3 year old can vote

[duncan2k5]

And the pistons team in 04 were massive underdogs to the Lakers... They would have gotten smashed if Kobe wasn't bent on being finals mvp... Remember he said he was tired of being a sidekick... Shaq shot 63% in that series, while Kobe shot about 36%...and Kobe took way more shots... They even asked Shaq why the team stopped giving him the ball when he seemed unstoppable, and he said "story of my life"

[DAF86]

You can vote without having watch the series... You DO know that... Right? A 3 year old can vote

Mmmh, what? I'm talking about professional journalists that voted to hand out the MVP finals award.

[barbacoataco]

And the pistons team in 04 were massive underdogs to the Lakers... They would have gotten smashed if Kobe wasn't bent on being finals mvp... Remember he said he was tired of being a sidekick... Shaq shot 63% in that series, while Kobe shot about 36%...and Kobe took way more shots... They even asked Shaq why the team stopped giving him the ball when he seemed unstoppable, and he said "story of my life"

The problem with Shaq is that teams didn't want the ball in his hands closing out games because he couldn't make free throws. He was basically irrelevant the last 4-5 minutes of close games, because teams would just foul him and he couldn't make it. Also that Detroit team was so good at disrupting passing that they couldn't get the ball to him where he wanted it.

[Arcadian]

Leading your team in points, rebounds, and blocks (and leading both teams in points and rebounds) gets you Finals MVP every time. That's all there is to it.

Plus, Tim was robbed of FMVP in 2013 when he certainly would have won it had they held onto game 6. So even if you think he didn't deserve it in 05, that balances it out.