Republican Diane Black of Tennessee linking grocery story porn mags to gun violence

[pgardn]

Nobody said there is not a mechanism, bro.

Mechanism implies cause and effect.
So wtf are you saying?

[pgardn]

Speaking of do-it-yourself, more than one academic cites porn as a reason young men are content to climb back into the family nest. “When I was a boy,” says Shaun Harper, a professor at Penn’s Graduate School of Education who studies how young men live and learn, “you had to work to find porn. And hide it! It was only available in an underground way.” Today, it’s as close as any website ending in .xxx. Researchers conducting a recent large study on porn and pros ution had trouble finding non-users to serve as a control group. An article in New York magazine last year described how young men have come to expect the “Porn Star Experience” from women, and find themselves faking orgasms when the real thing proves less satisfactory than the video version. No less than rock god John Mayer, whose girlfriends have included Jessica Simpson, Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift, told Playboy that he prefers masturbation to “real” sex: “Once I have to deal with someone else’s desires, I cut and run.” If you don’t even have to leave the house to find sexual *gratification—much less put on a tie, make small talk and pay for dinner—why would you bother? That this forces young women to compete for men’s attention not just with one another but also with Jesse Jane and Lexi Belle explains a lot of contemporary *evening wear

https://www.phillymag.com/articles/2...uE09PGsj5JC.99


Men Are Getting Weaker — because We’re Not Raising Men




https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/...ty-threatened/

What Porn Does to Intimacy
3 studies find that explicit material can do more harm than most people think.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-does-intimacy


Porn addiction or pornography addiction is a form of sexual addiction which involves excessive preoccupation with sexual imagery that has a negative impact on one's life.

https://doctor.ndtv.com/sexual-healt...ffects-1826347

Addiction.

[Chris]

It might sound novel for some people, but this stuff is actually scientifically researched...

“Dr. Ley, enough with the research! Let’s talk about common sense!”

First sentence of the linked article. Jesus.

Only research linked in the article is from the Netherlands.

Next time bring your shinebox, and make yourself useful.

[Chris]

El Nono just beat you down.

I don't even think you realize how badly.

*Risitas

[Pavlov]

And yet, we've had more school shooting deaths this 18 year old century than the entirety of the 20th century despite stricter laws and guns being harder to access.

Are they harder to access?

Are they the same guns?

[Spurtacular]

Mechanism implies cause and effect.
So wtf are you saying?

You're a scientist and you honestly not learn the difference and or nuances regarding correlation / cause and effect. Google it. I don't want to embarrass you any further.

[pgardn]

You're a scientist and you honestly not learn the difference and or nuances regarding correlation / cause and effect. Google it. I don't want to embarrass you any further.

Physical mechanism lead to outcomes.

So wtf are you saying?
Please, embarrass me.

[Spurtacular]

Physical mechanism lead to outcomes.

So wtf are you saying?
Please, embarrass me.

You do realize there's a difference between correlation and causation for starters, right?

[pgardn]

You do realize there's a difference between correlation and causation for starters, right?

What did I already tell you about correlation you dumb fck.

Its a mathematical procedure.
So start again, and please teach me.
While you continue to make a fool of yourself.

[pgardn]

Correlation means absolutely nothing without a proposed mechanism to link. If you get a strong correlation in some instances, you look for a mechanism that is viable. Correlation is purely mathematical produced.
You are an idiot.

..

[Spurtacular]

What did I already tell you about correlation you dumb fck.

Its a mathematical procedure.
So start again, and please teach me.
While you continue to make a fool of yourself.

You do realize there's a difference between correlation and causation for starters, right?

Yes or no.

[pgardn]

Correlation means absolutely nothing without a proposed mechanism to link. If you get a strong correlation in some instances, you look for a mechanism that is viable. Correlation is purely mathematical produced.
You are an idiot.

.

No.

Im lost.
You explain it.
Please.
So I can rip you a new one with your just google without understanding. Let’s go deeper with this. Questions to follow with examples for you to explain if I don’t fall asleep.

[Spurtacular]

No.

Im lost.
You explain it.
Please.
So I can rip you a new one with your just google without understanding. Let’s go deeper with this. Questions to follow with examples for you to explain if I don’t fall asleep.

Basic stuff, Mr. Scientist.

Easy google search will show you. But after that if you're still #SpecialNeeds like chump let me know.

[Pavlov]

Basic stuff, Mr. Scientist.

Easy google search will show you. But after that if you're still #SpecialNeeds like chump let me know.

He was being sarcastic.

He's mocking you.

Thought you might want to know.

[ElNono]

Speaking of do-it-yourself, more than one academic cites porn as a reason young men are content to climb back into the family nest. “When I was a boy,” says Shaun Harper, a professor at Penn’s Graduate School of Education who studies how young men live and learn, “you had to work to find porn. And hide it! It was only available in an underground way.” Today, it’s as close as any website ending in .xxx. Researchers conducting a recent large study on porn and pros ution had trouble finding non-users to serve as a control group. An article in New York magazine last year described how young men have come to expect the “Porn Star Experience” from women, and find themselves faking orgasms when the real thing proves less satisfactory than the video version. No less than rock god John Mayer, whose girlfriends have included Jessica Simpson, Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift, told Playboy that he prefers masturbation to “real” sex: “Once I have to deal with someone else’s desires, I cut and run.” If you don’t even have to leave the house to find sexual *gratification—much less put on a tie, make small talk and pay for dinner—why would you bother? That this forces young women to compete for men’s attention not just with one another but also with Jesse Jane and Lexi Belle explains a lot of contemporary *evening wear

https://www.phillymag.com/articles/2...uE09PGsj5JC.99


Men Are Getting Weaker — because We’re Not Raising Men




https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/...ty-threatened/

What Porn Does to Intimacy
3 studies find that explicit material can do more harm than most people think.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-does-intimacy


Porn addiction or pornography addiction is a form of sexual addiction which involves excessive preoccupation with sexual imagery that has a negative impact on one's life.

https://doctor.ndtv.com/sexual-healt...ffects-1826347

It's true porn does have damaging effects on the psyche especially at a young age.

^^^ Unsurprisingly, not a single study about porn having "damaging effects on the psyche especially at a young age" can be found above.

[ElNono]

* Risitas

[Chris]

You didn't even read the link that you posted.

Risitas x 1000

[ElNono]

Of course I did.

[ElNono]

It makes sense to all of us that we don’t want children watching pornography. Pornography contains extreme, unrealistic depictions of sex acts that even most adults don’t engage in. Certainly it makes common sense, that showing those images to kids might confuse them at the least, or even warp their ideas about sex, gender and relationships.

These are all very understandable, intuitively appealing common sense ideas about pornography. These same ideas once fueled the 19th Century fight against masturbation, when boys and girls had their genitals caged, or burned with acid, to prevent them from self-pleasure. They resurfaced in the 1980’s when Playboy was removed from convenience store shelves, and even in current arguments in Great Britain, where the government has ins uted filtering of the Internet, to protect children from pornography.

Unfortunately, while all these ideas make common sense, none of them hold up in the face of research. I believe that common sense, gut instinct and intuition are incredibly valuable. For years, I’ve recommended the book The Gift of Fear (link is external), which reminds us to listen to our intuitive warnings of danger. As a scientist and empirically-guided clinician, I recognize that intuition and common sense can yield great insights, which must then be measured against objective evidence. The problem is that common sense is “commonly” subject to bias, and can often be warped by our limited experiences, our assumptions, our needs, our subjective values and our cultural norms.

Thus, my comment about fear...

[ElNono]

You did the right thing spending two days to look up some counter arguments though, despite it was hit and miss.

For example, these article and papers make more sense as a counter, plus can be a good read:

http://www.apa.org/monitor/nov07/webporn.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19628142

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/...93650208326465

Unfortunately, the papers are behind paywalls...

[Blake]

Men Are Getting Weaker — because We’re Not Raising Men

Which man are you in that picture, Chris?

[Chris]

Of course I did.

Nah. You made that clear when you made your little snark about having research when the article clearly states common sense over research. You ed up.

[Chris]

You did the right thing spending two days to look up some counter arguments though, despite it was hit and miss.

For example, these article and papers make more sense as a counter, plus can be a good read:

http://www.apa.org/monitor/nov07/webporn.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19628142

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/...93650208326465

Unfortunately, the papers are behind paywalls...

Didn't take me 2 days to look up research. Took about 2 minutes. Articles from 2007 and 2009....cool.

Conclusion: You're not very good at this.

[Pavlov]

lol Chris doubles down on his nothing.

[spurraider21]

Nah. You made that clear when you made your little snark about having research when the article clearly states common sense over research. You ed up.