For sure. They won’t give up their best pick in a long time to dump Pau for the sake of doing it. They willl have a plan whether it’s Bron or otherwise.
The big thing truly is Danny/Rudy. Trading Pau and/or Mills is not an issue at all even if you have to give up assets you would prefer not to. But having to trade Rudy, Danny, Pau and/or Mills is a really tall order and an unprecedented amount of churn for SA.
I mean, I think Mills/Danny/Rudy could all get assets in a trade which is good, but if the goal is to shed salary and do right by the player as much as possible, finding teams with cap space to take those guys without sending money back makes it tougher.
So Rudy/Danny are the linchpins here; then things will start to shape up.
My dream scenario looking at this:
-Patty and Gasol get salary dumped.
-Tony resigns for the minimum.
-Green opts out and resigns for a larger contract for about 5/6 mils per year.
-Bertans resigns for 3/4 mils per year.
-Gay, Anderson, Forbes, Hilliard, Costello all out.
Starting lineup
White, Kawhi, Lebron, Bertans, Aldridge
Bench
Murray, Manu, Green, 18th pick, Lauvergne
3rd unit
Tony, filler, filler, filler, filler.
there's no reason to believe pop wants bertans to start tbh... they'd probably have lebron/kawhi at the 3 and 4
Start Green instead of Bertans then. I just think, fit wise, it makes a lot more sense to have Bertans starting and have Green come off the bench.there's no reason to believe pop wants bertans to start tbh
FWIW, I don't think Pop would play White over Murray either. It's just what I would do.
That's all good... it's just a shame we would have to give up on Gay. I still think he can improve a bit more (a full year removed from his injury) and become a far more versatile wing with the space that Lebron and Kawhi would create for him...
Originally Posted by DPG21920
So I did the math (using the capulator):
If Danny & Rudy opt out and are renounced
If all free agents are renounced (Tony Parker, Kyle Anderson, Bryn Forbes, Davis Bertans, Hilliard, Costello)
If BP3 is waived (non-guaranteed deal)
If SA defers Milutinov to the following year
If SA trades Pau + 2019 first to a team like ATL for nothing back salary wise
SA will have Kawhi, LMA, Mills, Manu, Joff, White & Murray under contract and will be at 69M in salaries including the charge for the 18th pick this year and cap holds for roster spots.
The salary cap is 101M, so 101M - 69M = 32M in cap space.
Lebron’s max is like 35.5M so SA would be about 3.5M short.
So what ESPN said was not meant to be fully accurate; it was just a high level example of the type of moves SA would have to make.
So Lebron could take less so SA doesn’t have to move other assets.
SA could trade the 2018 pick in the Pau deal vs 2019 and get another 2M in cap space and get close to max.
But if Lebron wants every penny, then SA would have to either trade the 2018 pick in the Pau deal instead of 2019 and then move either Mills, Murray, White or Joff (or if Joff unexpectedly declines his player option, just doing everything above but trading 2018 first instead of 2019 would get SA to full max).
The biggest “hinge” is Danny & Rudy. If they opt out, the path becomes far easier. If they dont then it’s much tougher.
My dream scenario looking at this:
-Patty and Gasol get salary dumped.
-Tony resigns for the minimum.
-Green opts out and resigns for a larger contract for about 5/6 mils per year.
-Bertans resigns for 3/4 mils per year.
-Gay, Anderson, Forbes, Hilliard, Costello all out.
Starting lineup
White, Kawhi, Lebron, Bertans, Aldridge
Bench
Murray, Manu, Green, 18th pick, Lauvergne
3rd unit
Tony, filler, filler, filler, filler.
he is a very good defender we need that chip fix his shot like many other players in the past, remember this;
How Dejounte Murray shut down Russell Westbrook
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018...sell-westbrook
Last edited by spurschamps99030507; 06-08-2018 at 03:22 PM.
you aren’t dumping salary without including our draft pick and Murray. And that’s probably just to get rid of Pau.
You can trade Mills without giving anything else, imho. I think Brett Brown would gladly take on Patty's salary.
To get rid of Gasol you can trade next season's draft pick.
Why would we max LeBron though? If he wants to ring he can take a pay cut or gtfo.
Trade Mills with nothing in return? Not sure we can salary dump him, but even if we did, that’s the only competent three point shooter on the team. A team will want 18 over 30 next year if the Spurs ever got LeBron.
Stephen Jackson, Chris Broussard and now;
Tracy McGrady; Go Spurs Go!
Yeah, Gasol may be a virtual expiring, but he's still got $23.5M guaranteed coming to him. No one is taking that for a pick that would be in the 27-30 range.
They'd have to attach White with it or instead of him and the pick, one of Murray or 18.
Last edited by TD 21; 06-08-2018 at 04:24 PM.
Murray and Lebron have a relationship. Bron was at his summer league games, Murray was at game 3. They have the same agent too right?
No Murray no lebron. I think no way we get lebron either way but still
I know. I'm just saying, Murray would be one of the assets who could conceivably get them off of Gasol.
No James anyway. The fact that the Spurs aren't even rumored to be getting a token meeting (which was once, if not presumed, at least thought) speaks volumes. Maybe it's just the Leonard situation and if they can repair it before free agency, they can still get it, but still.
People seem to be conflating his effusive praise of the Duncan era with the Leonard era, as if they're one and the same.
I've always maintained that if Lebron wants to challenge Warriors, he needs to take a Durant paycut.
spurs also have the tax break over some teams
Chris Haynes was asked for his gauge of LeBron James' free agency plans."I don't think it's anything serious to where he will actually think about signing there," said Chris Haynes of James and the Warriors during an appearance on Tim Kawakami's podcast. "I reported back, I believe in February, out of respect if Golden State showed interest, he would talk with them and have a conversation.
"He looks at that organization as the new era of the San Antonio Spurs. He respects them tremendously. I think that's what's going to happen if Golden State decides if they want to go in that route.
"I don't see him coming here at all."
Haynes was then asked which teams have the best odds of actually signing James.
"Houston has been linked a lot," said Haynes. "I've been told that's not a realistic option.
"Philly of course, that's legit.
"The Lakers are still in play but they're not as hot as it was before, but you're going to grant Magic Johnson a meeting. You're going to do that and listen. The Lakers have been setting up for two years for this summer.
"Then I'm going to throw out a dark horse, the Toronto Raptors. And let's not overlook the Boston Celtics. I think the Celtics are in that realm with Golden State where if Boston reached out and said 'We're serious', LeBron would listen."
Haynes then added that the Celtics having Kyrie Irving on the roster would be problematic.
"I think those are some of the real firm options out there as well as re-signing with Cleveland."
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250122/Raptors-Mentioned-As-Potential-Dark-horse-For-LeBron-James
Dejounte Murray recruiting LBJ with his tweet with LBJ photoshopped in a Spurs jersey.
Dejounte Murray
https://mobile.twitter.com/DejounteM...201408/photo/1
These losses to the Warriors must have broken him by now, which almost takes out the like of the Lakers/Clippers/Knicks out of the running..
IF Lebron wants a couple more rings ring in the last years of his prime, he has only three choices that provides him with an immediate and legit chance: Rockets, Spurs, Boston..
DJ in LeBron’s ears. Bring him home. It’s not the 1st team we dethrone a Dream Team but this time with the King himself
I wonder if Murray would get from Pop and Co for posting like that
Houston has no salary cap and CP3 is injury prone plus D’Antoni system will not outscore Dubs, no defense. Boston, Kyrie already left him, why push himself with the guy? Spurs is the best option basketball wise, avenge lost and prolong career with best rest management organization while picking up 3 or more rings
DJ/Green/Kawhi/LeBron/LMA
White/Manu/Kyle/Gay/Milutinov
Parker/DiVinzenso/filler/filler/project athletic big
Green/Gay opt out and extend
Trade Pau expiring contract + 2019 1st pick, trade Mills, waive/trade rest
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