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    "The Arizona Department of Education hopes to make changes to science standards, which will affect K-12 districts and charter schools. The changes include removing the word "evolution" in some areas and describing it as a "theory" in others....."

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ign/628941002/

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    i have no problem with them calling the theory a theory, provided that they define theory in the scientific sense and not the colloquial sense.

    removing it altogether is nonsense

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    Lolsmh old fart

    .Ed Reitz, 92,*testified in support of the changes at the community meeting.

    "The teaching of evolution is something that concerns me because it is a theory and it is not science," stated Reitz.*

    The great-grandfather read part of a book he wrote on the issue.*

    Over 70 years now we have been teaching our youth that we have came from pre-existing vertebrates and God, the creator, is not allowed to be taught in most of our public schools," read Reitz. "The result is now what we are observing in colleges and universities*throughout the land.
    ..Reitz*believes evolution is a theory and is not science. He said if evolution was not taught in schools, Christian parents would not have to use school vouchers so their children can attend private schools.*

    "Betsy DeVos is a Christian lady and she favors much of the use of vouchers and some people are upset with her because of that but that's the Christian point of view," Reitz said.*"We want creation taught in schools and God brought back in."*
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    Private Florida Christian madrasas receiving taxpayer dollars are teaching humans lived with dinosaurs — and slavery wasn’t so bad




    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/pri...e+Raw+Story%29

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    i have no problem with them calling the theory a theory, provided that they define theory in the scientific sense and not the colloquial sense.

    removing it altogether is nonsense
    "The teaching of evolution is something that concerns me because it is a theory and it is not science," stated Reitz.*

    facepalm

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    i have no problem with them calling the theory a theory, provided that they define theory in the scientific sense and not the colloquial sense.

    removing it altogether is nonsense
    You should get a life if you have a problem with it, tbh. Most kids could give a about this; and there are much bigger problems in the world. But I get that you're really into info control as a liberal and so this is probably like top five or ten for you.

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    You should get a life if you have a problem with it, tbh. Most kids could give a about this; and there are much bigger problems in the world. But I get that you're really into info control as a liberal and so this is probably like top five or ten for you.
    science should be taught in science classes. it's a remarkably simple concept... which should be right up your alley

    science and technology are becoming more and more prevalent in our daily lives. laws have to be formed around them. having an uninformed population is just a recipe for disaster when it comes to decision-making

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    science should be taught in science classes. it's a remarkably simple concept... which should be right up your alley

    science and technology are becoming more and more prevalent in our daily lives. laws have to be formed around them. having an uninformed population is just a recipe for disaster when it comes to decision-making
    Science isn't in trouble. Stop.

    This is about your own political agenda.

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    What is derp derping about now?

    Oh -- his personal vendetta.

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    Atheist Blake upset about Arizona school books. Good lord.

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    You can tell Chris and Derp have nothing to say about the actual issue.

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    Science isn't in trouble. Stop.
    science isn't in trouble as long as they continue to teach science in science classes

    This is about your own political agenda.
    this is about my agenda to have science taught in science classes

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    science isn't in trouble as long as they continue to teach science in science classes


    this is about my agenda to have science taught in science classes
    You would throw a fit if they taught Christianity in the Christianity classes. Good thing they don't exist under your agenda.

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    You would throw a fit if they taught Christianity in the Christianity classes. Good thing they don't exist under your agenda.
    christianity would absolutely belong in christianity classes. private schools have them all the time. i went to an armenian school where we had weekly religion classes through middle school. i didnt throw a fit.

    but the first amendment prevents that from happening in public schools. the supreme court, even with conservative judges, have adhered to that interpretation. but nothing prevents them from having science classes.

    and science should be taught in science classes. its a very simple concept

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    You would throw a fit if they taught Christianity in the Christianity classes. Good thing they don't exist under your agenda.
    Lol Chris line of reasoning.

    You'd throw a fit if they even offered an Islam class. This we know.

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    Jesus is brown.

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    Probably black. Revelation 1:14, 15 - His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters;

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    science isn't in trouble as long as they continue to teach science in science classes
    Science doesn't hinge on the general public's belief or non-belief in the theory of evolution. Stop.

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    Science doesn't hinge on the general public's belief or non-belief in the theory of evolution. Stop.
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    Darwinism -OK! Christianity - NOPE!

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    Science doesn't hinge on the general public's belief or non-belief in the theory of evolution. Stop.
    it doesn't have to "hinge on it" for me to have a position on it. that's a straw man.

    i think science should be taught in science classes. tell me why you think that something other than science should be taught in science classes.

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    Science doesn't hinge on the general public's belief or non-belief in the theory of evolution. Stop.
    Upon what does science hinge?

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    Darwinism -OK! Christianity - NOPE!
    1) the theory of evolution is scientific. therefore it should be taught in science classes

    2) christianity is not scientific. therefore it should not be taught in science classes

    3) i dont know what darwinism is. if you are referring to some worship of charles darwin, then no, that's not science, and should not be taught in science classes. if you are just referring to the theory of evolution (which has since been modified since darwin's time), then go back to point #1

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    it doesn't have to "hinge on it" for me to have a position on it. that's a straw man.

    i think science should be taught in science classes. tell me why you think that something other than science should be taught in science classes.
    The straw man is that you are saying I'm saying you can't have a position. I've argued that this is not a really big issue; you are pretending that it is. Also, speaking of straw mans, when did I say science shouldn't be taught?

    All this from the guy who was lecturing me that I see what I want to see.

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    The straw man is that you are saying I'm saying you can't have a position. I've argued that this is not a really big issue; you are pretending that it is. Also, speaking of straw mans, when did I say science shouldn't be taught?
    What are you actually saying about science's being taught in schools?

    All I've seen are vendetta posts.

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