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    Two guys who can't shoot, one can defend do the math
    Danny Green got his contract when he was one of the premier 3 and D guys. That version of Green was vastly superior to this version of Anderson. Kyle isn't worth more than 5 mils per year. If some team wants to overpay for him, good for Kyle, I just hope the Spurs aren't that team.

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    How many players that meet all the following conditions are there in the league?

    (a) not on a rookie deal
    (b) signed their contract under the current CBA
    (c) earn less than $5 mill/yr
    (d) is a legitimate rotation player


    It just seems like Spur fans always have an unrealistic view of the market value of our players.

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    It is nice to read interesting posts again.

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    How many players that meet all the following conditions are there in the league?

    (a) not on a rookie deal
    (b) signed their contract under the current CBA
    (c) earn less than $5 mill/yr
    (d) is a legitimate rotation player


    It just seems like Spur fans always have an unrealistic view of the market value of our players.
    Manu.
    Lance Stephenson.
    Nick Young.
    David West.
    Looney.
    Rondo.
    Ian Clark.
    Patterson.
    Morris.
    Baynes.
    Monroe.

    And I got tired of looking. Also, contracts from now on will be a lot more modest than what they were handing out untill last season.

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    Danny Green got his contract when he was one of the premier 3 and D guys. That version of Green was vastly superior to this version of Anderson. Kyle isn't worth more than 5 mils per year. If some team wants to overpay for him, good for Kyle, I just hope the Spurs aren't that team.
    If KA can at all be a rotation player of any sort then you have to consider a guy at his age (which means durability) has to be somewhat valuable and with the money thrown around these days 5 to 7 mill seems like the bare minimum. Everybody is only seeing long athletic shooters as the new wave but that's not Spurs mo. They need some of those guys but ultimately Spurs have gone towards a swiss army knife type of line up. Have a serious system in place but have different tools and skill sets to use at different times. KA fits perfectly with a long and athletically skilled group. If you put the guys around him, he can thrive in spurts on offense and defense. He already fits in with the culture and knows most the plays and seems like a guy who would thrive in a teaching and making guys comfortable around him role. Like past Spurs players he should be more valuable to the Spurs than other teams which is why all signs lead to him resigning barring a big game hunting team going after fathead.

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    Manu. playing for love of the game+was coming off a generous contract
    Lance Stephenson. re and headcase
    Nick Young. re
    David West. ring chaser
    Looney. rookie contract
    Rondo. bonafide cancer
    Ian Clark. 10th-12th man
    Patterson.
    Morris. previous CBA
    Baynes.
    Monroe. post-buyout contract, will command more

    And I got tired of looking. Also, contracts from now on will be a lot more modest than what they were handing out untill last season.
    So Patterson and Baynes. And Baynes wasn't a rotation player in DET, we'll see what kind of offers he gets after a solid year in BOS.

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    Not saying you specifically said this DAF, but it's really dumb to judge Fathead as "unplayable" against GS because he faltered as a starter against them two years in a row. His role isn't to save the the Spurs when the team's best player goes down. Put a guy of the same caliber in the same situation (say Shaun Livingston) and he'd falter too. Put him on a great team, as a 15-18 MPG guy and Fathead can play that role just as well as Livingston does, imo.

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    At the lack of reading comprehension on this board . . .






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    The previous and current starting SG, were picked 46th and 55th respectively in '09.


    Obviously, that's rare, but you clearly don't know much about the draft. There's a good possibility of them drafting an older, projected 3 and D type. I'm not saying they'll definitely develop into a legit starter, just that projecting ahead that appears to be the plan. There's no other rational way to make sense of the back court long term.

    Similar to Murray at PG. He's not a legit starter at this point, but he was the 29th pick and it took them all of a year and a half for them to give him the starting job over a future Hall-of-Famer. It shouldn't be difficult to envision them doing so with an 18th pick when a bench player is the current starting SG.





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    They can talk to Lebron by talking to Cavs and trying to negotiate a trade, ala CP3. That remains the most desirable way to acquire James from both SA's and Lebron's perspectives, and I expect teams to get such conversations with James going before the draft, if only so he can factor that into his decision. Houston is definitely going to try this.
    Lebron is at $35.6mm so to make salaries match..

    The pu pu platter of Pau and Mills ($28mm plus scraps) and pieces, or the pu pu platter of Ryan Anderson’s corpse for two more years and PJ Tucker or Eric Gordon ($30mm to $36mm)?

    I take neither unless there’s a significant sweetener.

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    Not saying you specifically said this DAF, but it's really dumb to judge Fathead as "unplayable" against GS because he faltered as a starter against them two years in a row. His role isn't to save the the Spurs when the team's best player goes down. Put a guy of the same caliber in the same situation (say Shaun Livingston) and he'd falter too. Put him on a great team, as a 15-18 MPG guy and Fathead can play that role just as well as Livingston does, imo.
    Is it worth it to pay more than 5 mils per year for a 15 mpg guy?

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    what about Rudy?

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    Is it worth it to pay more than 5 mils per year for a 15 mpg guy?
    Kyle averaged 14.8 mins per game last season with Kawhi out all season. I wonder if he will get that many minutes if a healthy Kawhi plays next season. And what if the Spurs can sign Rudy?

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    Kyle averaged 14.8 mins per game last season with Kawhi out all season. I wonder if he will get that many minutes if a healthy Kawhi plays next season. And what if the Spurs can sign Rudy?
    Didn't even check but I'm pretty sure that number you gave is way off. Kyle must have been the second or third guy with the most minutes, tbh.

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    Is it worth it to pay more than 5 mils per year for a 15 mpg guy?
    Why not? Livingston gets $8 mill/yr for his 16 MPG. Being good enough to provide 15 quality minutes on an elite team is valuable.

    Kyle averaged 14.8 mins per game last season with Kawhi out all season. I wonder if he will get that many minutes if a healthy Kawhi plays next season. And what if the Spurs can sign Rudy?
    He played 26.7 MPG last season.

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    If Rudy leaves we are screwed Anderson and Joffrey what a ing joke.

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    Why not? Livingston gets $8 mill/yr for his 16 MPG. Being good enough to provide 15 quality minutes on an elite team is valuable.



    He played 26.7 MPG last season.
    i must have punched up the wrong season. It seemed too low even as I posted it. But I was in a rush. Thanks for the accurate figure.

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    If Rudy leaves we are screwed Anderson and Joffrey what a ing joke.
    And Rudy will endup signing with Warriors to give Spurs more headache.. Spurs need to sign Rudy, He is still serviceable.

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    Murray's playing time was accelerated by TP's horrific injury. Only KL really broke through as a rookie since Dejuan Blair. Nobody is saying it's not possible but history of the Spurs the playing time is earned through a patient grooming process unless another KL type steal happens in the draft. Honestly I hope Derrick White supplants Mills as the starting sg/pg that should compliment well with Murray. Mills and an athletic wing will better fit off the bench. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]


    Parker briefly reassumed the starting position before ceding it. At that point, he wasn't playing markedly worse than recent seasons, which means Murray taking over as the starter sooner than later was clearly in the works beforehand.

    If Ginobili retires, the 18th pick will likely be battling the likes of White, Forbes and even Bertans for minutes. Parker will also be rested occasionally and between him, Murray, Mills and Anderson, they're likely to miss some time with injuries. Forbes cleared 1500 minutes last season as a projected non rotation player, while Bertans cleared 1000 as a mostly non one.

    White was likely drafted to be the Ginobili replacement and compliment to Mills off the bench. If you pair Mills with an athletic wing, you'll most likely be lacking in shot creation and play making. If you play him with White and Anderson, he can mostly play off ball, while they split the duties.
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    Heard on NBA Radio that the Kwahi-Pop meeting is hopefully this week.

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    Aw just not with the Spurs

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    Who would have guessed fake news from WOAI?

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