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    Ah. Well, cuck Blake is an idiot, but I don't pretend there's a correlation between theory of evolution not being true and that. So, no fail. And I don't expect you to understand cos you're an idiot too.
    That was just terrible....at least be funny.

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    That was just terrible....at least be funny.
    Terrible to an idiot doesn't mean a thing, tbh. Don't worry, the non-idiots get it.

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    Terrible to an idiot doesn't mean a thing, tbh. Don't worry, the non-idiots get it.

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    Damn, all that shameless grandstanding just because you wouldn't accept a clarification (definition) that I just gave you!

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/genesis
    nice definition

    that is still not a scientific theory

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    nice definition

    that is still not a scientific theory
    I used the word in proper context. Do you dispute that? I honestly don't even care if you answer. I'll pass on the W; you're being too obtuse for me to really want it.

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    Chris quoting Einstein is one of the funnier things on this board

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    No one was questioning the definition of scientific theory.
    thats news to me. derpy seems to think genesis (small g!) is a scientific theory

    Of course the Bible doesn't claim there was a Big Bang - duh.
    ok... so you are disagreeing with the huffpo opinion piece that tries to connect the dots and claim the bible does in fact align with the big bang theory.

    basically you are boiling down the similarity to:

    1. Science says the universe started with the "big bang"
    2. Genesis says the universe started at some point

    therefore they are in alignment. that's a weak parallel

    Carl Sagan's chicken or the egg quote is nice, but I've heard that a thousand times. We're talking about the similarities between Genesis and science.
    yes, we are. but your article also claimed that scientists, at large, ascribe the big bang to "some unimaginable power." i questioned that claim and presented sagan's quote as an alternative

    This is you rationalizing.
    if that's what you want to call it

    1. genesis claims god made light
    2. light exists

    therefore genesis is in alignment with science

    ?

    if pointing that weak comparison is "me rationalizing" then sure

    Your "damn globe thing" is a theory and has nothing to do with the article. This is you conflating.
    i dont think you know what conflating means. it's verbatim the word of the bible.

    "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome."

    the bible treats the skies/heavens as though it were an ocean/sea. we know that not to be true. we know there isn't a dome that separates us from the sky. that's not "conflation." i really think you dont know what that word means when you keep using it in these contexts

    Thanks for the clarification. Stunning analysis.
    it didnt need clarification, so i didn't clarify. article says that doesn't align with science, so it made my point for me

    The article was written by one person. There is no "they."
    good catch

    make sure you get all the important details

    Great.


    No one is confused about birds or insects.
    your article says "According to contemporary science, this is out of sequence. Birds did not appear until later. However, flying insects did appear at this time, and this could be a remote but possible explanation."
    either it does not align with science, or they confused birds with flying insects. i'll let you choose, i'm good either way

    I don't think anyone is taking credit. This is an analysis of Genesis and each day.
    the article pointed out for a second time that life originated in the sea. i'm just pointing out that they made a redundant point.

    Scholars have studied the Bible for an entire lifetime and still have questions at the end of the day. It's a fascinating book.
    i agree that it's fascinating. but if the question at hand is if genesis aligns with science, then you would need to have a working definition of a "kind" to make that determination.

    You're upset that there is a similarity there. That's understandable.
    i'm upset that the bible acknowledges that humans are at the top of the food chain? not at all. what i'm saying is making that claim isn't a sign of scientific validity. it's akin to saying "the oceans are made of water. therefore my claims are aligned with science." if you pointed out how silly that was, does that mean that "you're upset that there is a similarity there?"

    Amazing how you've managed to say absolutely nothing but declare victory at the same time. You're welcome to disagree with the article but your analysis leaves little to be desired
    huh? i went through each of the article's main points. on a couple of points, they showed that genesis is in conformity with our observations in certain things (light, in fact, exists. life originated in the sea). it correctly pointed out some areas where genesis does not conform with observations (dome separating the seas, plants appearing before animals). it also drew some incorrect parallels (acted like genesis and the big bang are in conformity with one another. even you agreed that they aren't)


    so i think my point was fairly clear. and of course, as i mentioned in my previous post,

    Just because something may or may not be right, doesn't mean it is or isn't scientific. If i said "hey guys, I think Lithium atoms have 3 electrons... just a gut feeling" then I wouldn't be saying anything scientific, even though what I said might be accurate.

    the bible saying some things that happen to be accurate doesn't suddenly turn it into a work of science.

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    I used the word in proper context. Do you dispute that? I honestly don't even care if you answer. I'll pass on the W; you're being too obtuse for me to really want it.
    neither Genesis or genesis are scientific theories. i dont understand what point you're trying to make now.

    i dont even think you're trying to make a point. you're just saying words

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    neither Genesis or genesis are scientific theories. i dont understand what point you're trying to make now.

    i dont even think you're trying to make a point. you're just saying words
    Oh, my . Theory of evolution or intelligent design both regard the genesis. Seriously, you can't have a great record as a lawyer.

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    Oh, my . Theory of evolution or intelligent design both regard the genesis. Seriously, you can't have a great record as a lawyer.
    a) evolution doesn't regard genesis... it is merely the mechanism by which life diversifies. the theory of evolution doesn't describe how life began or how the universe began (genesis)

    b) even if we assume that evolution and ID both have to do with genesis, that still doesn't make genesis a scientific theory. and as of now there is nothing scientific about ID

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    a) evolution doesn't regard genesis... it is merely the mechanism by which life diversifies. the theory of evolution doesn't describe how life began or how the universe began (genesis)

    b) even if we assume that evolution and ID both have to do with genesis, that still doesn't make genesis a scientific theory. and as of now there is nothing scientific about ID
    Genesis: origin of

    This sh** isn't hard to comprehend.

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    Genesis: origin of

    This sh** isn't hard to comprehend. My .
    yes. and what do you think evolution is the "origin of?"

    evolution does NOT describe the origin of life

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    yes. and what do you think evolution is the "origin of?"

    evolution does NOT describe the origin of life
    It's (theoretically) the origin of mankind, no?

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    It's (theoretically) the origin of mankind, no?
    mankind, yeah. but not the universe/earth/life

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    mankind, yeah. but not the universe/earth/life
    We were talking about theory of evolution from the get go, not the big bang theory, bro. Again though, I don't care. This is a mind numbing discussion.

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    We were talking about theory of evolution from the get go, not the big bang theory, bro. Again though, I don't care. This is a mind numbing discussion.
    agreed. that's why i've been scratching my head trying to figure out what the point you've been trying to make

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    I don't think he knows either.

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    Oh, my . Theory of evolution or intelligent design both regard the genesis. Seriously, you can't have a great record as a lawyer.
    Genesis: origin of

    This sh** isn't hard to comprehend.
    It's (theoretically) the origin of mankind, no?
    We were talking about theory of evolution from the get go, not the big bang theory, bro. Again though, I don't care. This is a mind numbing discussion.
    What's your theory of genesis?

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    irrefutable evidence here that religion makes one stupid, ignorant, "mind numbed"

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    neither Genesis or genesis are scientific theories. i dont understand what point you're trying to make now.

    i dont even think you're trying to make a point. you're just saying words

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    Well, one I don't think you have to be Christian to believe in intelligent design. But isn't it interesting that that triggers you without me even bringing it up? Easy call for Chris, tbh.

    I think that the genesis of Earth and mankind is all rooted in theory; so it's a bit of a strawman for you to hide behind some pretend pure science on this one.

    So continue what intelligent design is and how it is a viable theory in science.

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    Atheist Blake upset about Arizona school books. Good lord.
    Fake Christian upset about atheist post. Holy spaghetti.

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    I don't think he knows either.
    Spurtacular is singularly incapable of learning things. He has tried, very lamely, to occasionally defend his 9-11 controlled demolition theory, among others. He realizes rather quickly he is in over his head and changes the subject as fast as possible.

    Were his knowledge of science personified, it would look like an escapee from a concentration camp, if one can pardon the analogy.

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    Spurtacular is singularly incapable of learning things. He has tried, very lamely, to occasionally defend his 9-11 controlled demolition theory, among others. He realizes rather quickly he is in over his head and changes the subject as fast as possible.

    Were his knowledge of science personified, it would look like an escapee from a concentration camp, if one can pardon the analogy.

    Oh, don't be so pedantic.

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    Oh, don't be so pedantic.
    i dont appreciate that aspersion

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