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    Canada is protecting itself against a global glut of dairy products. Canadians support the policy, are even willing to pay higher prices.
    I'm sure Canada and its citizens are comfortable with your vague blanket statements.

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    I'm sure Canada and its citizens are comfortable with your vague blanket statements.
    Canada's citizens spoke for themselves in that poll he posted.

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    the commies at the Wall Street Journal think tariffs are already raising the price of production for US manufacturers and could lead to a global slowdown for steel:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/steel-a...ffs-1527792759

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    ^welp



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    ^welp


    The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $8.4 billion in 2017.


    Thanks for the link.

    lol

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    it's as if Chris never reads anything longer than a tweet and never follows the link

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    Canada's citizens spoke for themselves in that poll he posted.
    Canadians are starting to talk about boycotting American goods, and I am guessing this movement will be paralleled in Europe.

    America's "brand" is becoming toxic for our businesses. As I have noted before perceptions of a country have quantifiable effects in terms of X dollars per percentage point of perception.

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    the commies at the Wall Street Journal think tariffs are already raising the price of production for US manufacturers and could lead to a global slowdown for steel:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/steel-a...ffs-1527792759
    They are. Layoffs in various industries that consume steel will start hitting whenever the current steel stocks start drying up, and have been if Marketplaces' reporting is accurate.

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    bifurcated impact:

    “President Donald Trump’s tariff on imported solar panels has led U.S. renewable energy companies to cancel or freeze investments of more than $2.5 billion in large installation projects, along with thousands of jobs, the developers told Reuters. That’s more than double the about $1 billion in new spending plans announced by firms building or expanding U.S. solar panel factories to take advantage of the tax on imports. The tariff’s bifurcated impact on the solar industry underscores how protectionist trade measures almost invariably hurt one or more domestic industries for every one they shield from foreign compe ion.”
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1J30CT

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    Canadians are starting to talk about boycotting American goods, and I am guessing this movement will be paralleled in Europe.

    America's "brand" is becoming toxic for our businesses. As I have noted before perceptions of a country have quantifiable effects in terms of X dollars per percentage point of perception.
    Oh no! Guess I will buy exclusively from Aunt Jemima now.

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    Canadians are starting to talk about boycotting American goods, and I am guessing this movement will be paralleled in Europe.

    America's "brand" is becoming toxic for our businesses. As I have noted before perceptions of a country have quantifiable effects in terms of X dollars per percentage point of perception.
    Is that like Americans boycott of China products or Hollywood celebrities moving to Canada when Trump gets elected? Asking for a friend......

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    it's as if Chris never reads anything longer than a tweet and never follows the link
    Did you read it?

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    actually yes, well beforehand, I believe i linked it too.

    did you have a question?

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    Oh no! Guess I will buy exclusively from Aunt Jemima now.
    You understand we have a trade surplus with Canada, right?

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    Is that like Americans boycott of China products or Hollywood celebrities moving to Canada when Trump gets elected? Asking for a friend......

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    That's pretty much my response to your Bouton's style spam posting as of late.......

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    That's pretty much my response to your Bouton's style spam posting as of late.......
    Either I am right, or I am wrong in pointing out that Canadians will want to boycott American goods and services.

    I can see how people who don't like to take personal responsibility for things, might not like being reminded of consequences.

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    do you have a take on that, or are you content to be an MSM megaphone?

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    "You know jack and "

    Go yourself.

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    aw, you care.

    too bad you don't have two thoughts to rub together in that drafty place where your brain should be.

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    Tighten your belt, America—Trump'stariff backlash takes hold and consumer goods are skyrocketing




    From NBC News in early March:

    “The losers are plentiful, and there are actually way more losers than winners.

    The issue is that we’re not just talking about finished steel, but we’re talking about entire industries that use semi-finished steel to add value,” said Monica de Bolle, senior fellow at the Peterson Ins ute for International Economics.

    The tariffs were predicted to ripple through industries small and large. From mom and pop companies to giants like Boeing.

    The range of products incorporating these materials, either directly or somewhere along the supply chain, means consumer-facing sectors of the economy could be hit especially hard, said Jonathan Gold, vice president of supply chain and customs policy at the National Retail Federation.

    “The other thing to remember for retailers is that it’s not just the products we sell, but it’s all of the equipment — between the buildings, the racks in the stores, the rebars in the distribution centers, the forklifts in the warehouse.”

    The upshot, he said, could be lost jobs for workers and higher prices for customers.

    Fast forward three months and the backlash to the tariffs are starting to take hold.

    Korean companies LG and Samsung tried to get out in front of it by announcing plans to manufacture in the U.S. But, as noted by the Washington Post, those jobs are being supplemented by a flood of tax credits.

    Real tariff consequences are unfolding as pricing for products like new washers and dryers have begun to e, up 17% already. From the Washington Post:


    When you aggregate all those price increases across the 10 million washers sold annually in the United States,

    consumers will collectively pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per year for each job supposedly created or saved.

    Which is many multiples of what factory workers typically earn.


    And it’s not even clear how safe their jobs are at this point, given the rest of Trump’s trade agenda. After all, his tariffs didn’t stop with washing machines.

    Those metal tariffs have left steel prices more than 50 percent higher in the United States than they are in China or Europe.

    This is bad news for U.S. companies that purchase steel — including to manufacture washing machines, which are essentially big steel boxes.

    Small business owner Bill Adler explain to WaPo how devastating the tariffs have already been on his business, with prices jumping 25-50% higher than what they were just six months ago.

    auto industry experts are warning the tariffs will have dire consequences on the auto industry and U.S. jobs. As noted in this explainer video from the Financial Post, experts warn an estimated 195,000 U.S. jobs could be lost.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/15/1772183/-Tighten-your-belt-America-Trump-s-tariff-backlash-takes-hold-and-consumer-goods-are-skyrocketing

    This is what all y'all rednecks, bubbas, racists voted for, right?


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    Trump will point to foreign countries and say: look what they're doing to us!

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    "You know jack and "

    Go yourself.
    We will immediately take tariff measures of the same scale and intensity. All economic and trade outcomes of previous talks will now lose effect.
    so much for DJT's deal netting us 100s of billions.

    poof.

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