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    great pic

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    Lol

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    yeah. trump, muslim leaders, and a clear message of globalization, all in one pic. fantastic

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    great for the Asian middle class and the top decile of world income:

    lol zero sum game theory is so derpy

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    what was the story behind that pic? WTF were they doing?

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    Trump walling off Mexico with his fingers

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    lol zero sum game theory is so derpy
    Who gets the goodies is always a relevant question:


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    that a rising tide floats all boats isn't a suitable answer to all political complaints, in fact it's showing signs of overuse.

    Why should Americans care about making Asians richer while their own prospects are flatlining?

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    Who gets the goodies is always a relevant question:

    That's due to trickle down economics and not raising minimum wage or pegging it to inflation dodo.

    Studies have shown that 87% of jobs in manufacturing and have been lost due to automation. You can raise tariffs to a trillion percent those 1950s manufacturing jobs aren't coming back

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    I agree

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    the way markets work and the way the social product is distributed isn't some natural law, but the result of force, laws and politics.

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    Who gets the goodies is always a relevant question:


    ..is why only violent revolution overthrow of the American oligarchy is what history recommends

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    that's your recommendation. go for it!

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    that's your recommendation. go for it!
    It wouldn't be fun, but historically, including The American Revolution, violent revolution has been the only solution for removing a tyrannical regime.

    There's no ing way citizens' so-called "voting" GMAFB, will ever produce less inequality, less enslavement to debt, less oligarchical control of the country, when both US parties are owned by the oligarchy.

    The oligarchy simply will not give up its wealth and power without a violent fight.

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    The oligarchy simply will not give up its wealth and power without a violent fight.
    how do you explain a revolution within the form like the New Deal?

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    how do you explain a revolution within the form like the New Deal?
    New Deal wasn't a revolution, the Wealthy Class wasn't removed by revolutionaries, only some of them wiped out by their own greed, as ALWAYS happens with unregulated BigFinance.

    The wealthy class, esp the Repug party, fought hard against New Deal (and 1950s, 1960s progress) and are still fighting, successfully, to wipe any socio/economic progress For The People achieved since 1929.

    The New Deal wasn't a revolution, and 1000s of workers demanding rights, and pay, were murdered by goons working for the wealthy class. How many wealthy were murdered by The People?

    The oligarchy now is much more sophisticated, has compromised, hired The Best People into its ranks as de facto goon squads, and, repeating, simply won't give up power and wealth without a violent revolution.

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    Globalization is working out fantasically for the very people who created it

    World's Millionaires and Billionaires Now Control Half the World's Personal Wealth, New Analysis Shows


    "The rich are getting a lot richer and doing so a lot faster."
    Millionaires and billionaires own nearly half of all the world's personal wealth, which reached $201.9 trillion last year, according to a new report from Boston Consulting Group.

    "The share of global wealth held by millionaires increased to almost 50 percent in 2017,

    compared with just under 45 percent in 2012,

    driven mainly by higher-wealth individuals investing in higher-return assets," the
    report (pdf) states.


    In other words, as Bloomberg
    put it, "The rich are getting a lot richer and doing so a lot faster."


    That's especially true in the United States,

    where the Trump administration and the GOP-controlled Congress are working to keep
    slashing taxes on the nation's wealthiest individuals and corporations at the expense of working families.


    "North America remained the richest global region in 2017 in terms of personal wealth, which expanded by 8 percent to $86.1 trillion,"

    the report notes. "North American wealth was highly concentrated in the over-$5-million segment, which held 42 percent of investable wealth."


    Overall, researchers found that "residents of North America held over 40 percent of global personal wealth,

    followed by residents of Western Europe with 22 percent.

    The strongest region of growth was Asia, which posted a 19 percent increase."


    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...nal-wealth-new





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    New Deal wasn't a revolution, the Wealthy Class wasn't removed by revolutionaries, only some of them wiped out by their own greed, as ALWAYS happens with unregulated BigFinance.
    Simply waving your hands at the Great Depression and pointing out that some rich people got wiped out isn't an explanation for how we got Social Security, the Fair Labor Standards Act, the NLRA, the SEC, the FDA, electrification, deposit insurance and (for a time) a federal jobs guarantee.

    The New Deal vastly enlarged the executive branch and inaugurated an era of administrative/ameliorative bureaucracy, without a violent revolution.

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    Social Security, the Fair Labor Standards Act, the NLRA, the SEC, the FDA, electrification, deposit insurance and (for a time) a federal jobs guarantee.
    All ephemeral, as the oligarchy has been, and is attacking or denying all of them successfully since the 1930s, and they aren't finished, yet.

    The 1930s progress again wasn't a revolution, and happened because that oligarchy, BigFinance, face-planted itself into powerlessness.

    America of the 1930s, or even 1960s, is long gone.

    Since the 1970s, the oligarchy "took their country back" and have much more power and sophistication and a militarized police/surveillance state to protect their wealth, which is their power, to rig and operate the USA for themselves.

    ST has never answered my question as to how the non-wealthy can "take their country back" For The People, what practical steps can be taken to overcome the oligarchy?

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    The 1930s progress again wasn't a revolution, and happened because that oligarchy, BigFinance, face-planted itself into powerlessness.
    Bull , There was a labor movement it feared and respected.

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    also, creeping domestic fascism

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    and a load of suddenly impoverished Americans. tinder for the fire.

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    Bull , There was a labor movement it feared and respected.
    evidence? no unions?

    and Labor was so feared by Capital that FDR had to impose a $0.25/hour (less that $5/hour today) which STILL pisses off Capital
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