Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[Ice009]

I wonder who that player is?????????? I hope we don't miss out on a good player because of Kawhi acting like a wit.

I'm not on Twitter, did anyone follow up and ask anymore about if it was supposed to be through trade or if the said player was a free agent?

[alpha_HaZE]

It used to be that reporters verified with 2 to 3 other independent sources to verify what they've been "told"...that probably doesn't happen anymore...if you're only reporting what you've been told, then that's just being a human press release, isn't it?

Very well said! Dude hates the Spurs, which makes me think that people in Kawhi's camp feel the same way. ing about the so-called leaks. They leak that all is okay and then in 48 hours, they leak Kawhi's wants out. Without Kawhi or anyone of his camp communicating that to the Spurs. That means, Pop found out the same way we did. From the meadia! Yikes, and this dude is upset about Tony's comments (who he himself admits) they were taken out of context or the fact that Pop said "his group" or something to that effect. That's ridicoulous.

What Woj said that the Spurs they are not going to offer him the supermax right away, was that pissed them off and changed their minds? Did that really happen? But then he says, its not about the money, and the questions is what might have changed in the last 48 hours that involves another player (not lebron) Jabari has said that PG and Kawhi have spoken about playing together. So the only other thing I can tihnk of is that PG decided to return to OKC.

[polandprzem]

Pop like to talk to people like they are grown ups. Now it seems Kawhi is not a man and is hiding behind some group we have no idea who is in it. That is not normal situation here and it looks like the best scenario is to trade him cause this drama will not stop if Kawhi not men up.

That aside - who you receive in the trade now? Leonard is top3 player in NBA so you won't get nobody in the draft comparable to him. And only LeBron, Durant and Harden maybe are equal in bball quality.

[Mal]

Kawhi and his uncle are messing with Pop, that's a fact but healthy Kawhi is the second best player in the world, he will have no problem getting a max anywhere he chooses to play

But only Spurs can offer him 219 mil. No one else. He is leaving around 50 mil on the table.

[gambit1990]

But only Spurs can offer him 219 mil. No one else. He is leaving around 50 mil on the table.

there was a recent report saying kawhi doesn’t care about the extra money.

[Jules_Winnfield]

What has more value, 2017 2nd pick (Lonzo) or 2018 2nd pick?

[alpha_HaZE]

At this point, I wouldn't even bother trying to convince him to stay let alone consider offering the supermax. Kawhi and his camp's at ude isn't gonna change anytime soon.

Trading him now is the best option imo. The Spurs don't necessarily have to give him what he wants and send him to LA. If he refuses to sign an extension with whichever team he gets traded to, he will lose a 30M more in guaranteed money on top of the 50M he's lost by not getting the supermax iirc. It wont be easy to make that money back in sponsorship deals even in a large market.

The Celtics, Lakers, Clippers, Kings, and Sixers are all rumored to be interested. A lot of people are expecting the Spurs to get lowball offers but there are angles that could work in the Spurs favor. The Clippers, Lakers and Celtics hate each other, lowballing could send Kawhi to their rivals. The Celtics own the Kings 2019 pick (its protected iirc), but if the Kings get Kawhi, they could also get that pick back from Boston. The Celtics are already contenders but if the Sixers get Kawhi, that's another team theyd have to get past in the East.

Bottom line, losing Kawhi sucks but we have options.

I wouldn't mind Kawhi for Kyrie and the Kings 2019 pick. Also, Clippers two draft picks and Tobias Harris sounds interesting if we were to add Cousins in the free agency, and draft say Zhaire Smith, Robert Williams (Clippers 12th & 13th), and Donte DiVincenzo.

[Chinook]

What has more value, 2017 2nd pick (Lonzo) or 2018 2nd pick?

2 has more value than Lonzo. I'd go as far as to say PATFO would rather have 10 than Lonzo, not even considering Lavar

[-21-]

there was a recent report saying kawhi doesn’t care about the extra money.

Maybe Kawhi doesn't but Uncle Dennis and the rest of his camp clearly does. Unfortunately for them, they are amatuers and ended up mishandling the situation. It seems they've lost the chance at the supermax. Kawhi could lose 30M more if he doesn't sign an extension to the team he gets traded to. If he doesnt end up back home in LA, they better hope the Spurs trade him to a team with a large market or at the very least a playoff team. If not, they will have gained nothing: no supermax, no large market, no going home to LA, no superteam. Kawhi's camp screwed up, saying that he dont care about the money is just an excuse.

[tbdog]

Harris is awful. He has no iq. He is a stat filler and not even that good at that.

[Hoops Czar]

Maybe Kawhi doesn't but Uncle Dennis and the rest of his camp clearly does. Unfortunately for them, they are amatuers and ended up mishandling the situation. It seems they've lost the chance at the supermax. Kawhi could lose 30M more if he doesn't sign an extension to the team he gets traded to. If he doesnt end up back home in LA, they better hope the Spurs trade him to a team with a large market or at the very least a playoff team. If not, they will have gained nothing: no supermax, no large market, no going home to LA, no superteam. Kawhi's camp screwed up, saying that he dont care about the money is just an excuse.

He'll make 100M+ in endorsements over the next four year playing for a large market. I don't think he'll miss 30M and those bogus, unfunny HEB commercials when he'll come out way ahead over the long haul.

Damn, the amount of posters still in total denial is astounding and this was only day 1.

[Chinook]

He'll make 100M+ in endorsements over the next four year playing for a large market. I don't think he'll miss 30M and those bogus, unfunny HEB commercials when he'll come out way ahead over the long haul.

Damn, the amount of posters still in total denial is astounding and this was only day 1.

This is a global league. Lebron, KD, Russ, Lillard, Davis and plenty of other stars do just fine on endorsements. Kawhi doesn't get a lot because he either doesn't want them or can't execute them. Stars get their ad money off big brands, not local endorsements. Markets have nothing do to with it, which is why you don't see a bunch of guys taking discounts to go play in NY, Brooklyn or the LA teams.

[KimmyGib]

The guy straight up refused to play while under contract for an entire season. Won't be surprised or upset to see him go. Still hope to see him back at 100% wherever he lands.

[coachmac87]

Spurs fans also have to take in account that Kawhi could be apart of the next super team..the kid wants to win and with possibly knowing another super team or GSW, Boston are all in the running..he had to leave SA cause those other players didn’t want to come here to do it..

So instead of getting paid and never winning like Westbrook...he took the chance to join something “special”. Kawhi is a Top 5 player etc and being successful in LA and rejuvenating the Lakers means more for his brand then sustained success in SA..plus Pop being on his last leg.

It was time. He handled it absolutely wrong and should get criticized for it and tbh was sickening how he treated the franchise. Say what you want about the mistakes made..Spurs deserved better than that. They always had his best intest referring to health or even as a person... he was wrong everyone know is it

[YGWHI]

Markets have nothing do to with it, which is why you don't see a bunch of guys taking discounts to go play in NY, Brooklyn or the LA teams.

1-Depends on the players. LA helped a lot Blake, I doubt he would sign the same type of endorsements playing in the East now.

2-Young players don't take discounts in this league.

3-No one takes discounts to play for teams in states with high taxes.

4-Who the would take a paycut to play for NY, Brooklyn, LA? They have ton of money, players know that

[spurschamps99030507]

It goes from $219M to $188M over 5 years, or $31M. From there it goes down to $139M over 4 year max contract if he doesn't re-sign.

So in essence it's $80M, spread out over 1 fewer year by $31M (for supermax) and $49M (and for max) respectively

[Hoops Czar]

1-Depends on the players. LA helped a lot Blake, I doubt he would sign the same type of endorsements playing in the East now.

2-Young players don't take discounts in this league.

3-No one takes discounts to play for teams in states with high taxes.

4-Who the would take a paycut to play for NY, Brooklyn, LA? They have ton of money, players know that

Unless you're name is Kevin Durant and you're making over 35M a year in endorsements off the court.

[JPB]

So...
1. Sit one year for "not feeling right"
2. Stay silent, don't communicate, let teammates and franchise in the dark about return affecting their season and bringing drama on the spurs.
3. Still take the 20 millions.
4. Ultimately wants to be traded

Is this the biggest mother er in NBA history ?

Everybody, including me, got it all wrong about this guy. Huge A-hole.
He already ruined his reputation among fans and players with his at ude this season but now he'll be a bag for everybody.

People respect the spurs around the league. They're kind of the morale caution, the franchise people turn to say it's not all about egoism and cash. The team that gives everybody good consciousness. And everyone loves Pop.

Kawhi will be the guy that and try to abuse him and them.

Don't trade him, sit him and make him lose another year of his prime... "DNP Not feeling Right".

There will be a lot of important moves this year and next year will be less interesting for him after all the the major teams will have signed their big dogs...

Make him pay.
I trust Pop. You don't him and the spurs.

[spurschamps99030507]

So...
1. Sit one year for "not feeling right"
2. Stay silent, don't communicate, let teammates and franchise in the dark about return affecting their season
3. Still take the 20 millions.
4. Ultimately wants to be traded



Is this the biggest mother er in NBA history ?

Everybody, including me, got it all wrong about this guy. Huge A-hole.
He already ruined his reputation among fans and players with his at ude these season but now he'll be a bag for everybody.

People respect the spurs aroung the league. They're kind of the morale caution of the league, the franchise people turn to say it's not all about egoism and cash. The team that gives everybody good conscious. Everyone loves Pop.

Kawhi will be the guy that and try to abuse him and them.

Don't trade him, sit him and make him lose another year of his prime... "DNP Not feeling Right".

There will be a lot of important moves this year and next year will be less interesting for him after all the the major teams will have signed their big dogs...

Make him pay.
I trust Pop. You don't him and the spurs.

agree

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So...
1. Sit one year for "not feeling right"
2. Stay silent, don't communicate, let teammates and franchise in the dark about return affecting their season and bringing drama on the spurs.
3. Still take the 20 millions.
4. Ultimately wants to be traded

Is this the biggest mother er in NBA history ?

Everybody, including me, got it all wrong about this guy. Huge A-hole.
He already ruined his reputation among fans and players with his at ude this season but now he'll be a bag for everybody.

People respect the spurs around the league. They're kind of the morale caution, the franchise people turn to say it's not all about egoism and cash. The team that gives everybody good consciousness. And everyone loves Pop.

Kawhi will be the guy that and try to abuse him and them.

Don't trade him, sit him and make him lose another year of his prime... "DNP Not feeling Right".

There will be a lot of important moves this year and next year will be less interesting for him after all the the major teams will have signed their big dogs...

Make him pay.
I trust Pop. You don't him and the spurs.

Can't think of a bigger snake in the NBA. Even if he's just a mute re and has let his group control things, which seems likely. Still a way bigger got than Durant.

[YGWHI]

Unless you're name is Kevin Durant and you're making over 35M a year in endorsements off the court.

Durant is 29 years old, I was thinking about players in their 20's or mid 20's

[YGWHI]

...Kawhi will be the guy that and try to abuse him and them.

Just hilarious...Next time, you'll say Kawhi killed JFK

[szkorhetz]

Brogdon+Middleton for Kawhi?
Who says no?
I would even add Mills and Della.

[YGWHI]

Can't think of a bigger snake in the NBA. Even if he's just a mute re and has let his group control things, which seems likely. Still a way bigger got than Durant.

Nah...People know that KD took the easy way and jumped into a champ team.

On other hand, Kawhi will lose $100M and will end playing for scrubs like Suns or Sacramento.

Like it or not, most NBA fans don't see him as a bandwagon star like KD.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Nah...People know that KD took the easy way and jumped into a champ team.

As opposed to refusing to play for a playoff team and looking to go to a superteam in a big market?

On other hand, Kawhi will lose $100M and will end playing for scrubs like Suns or Sacramento.

Neither of these will send top picks for a one year rental. Players get their wish about where to go, especially stars. He'll lose money though, that's for sure.

Like it or not, most NBA fans don't see him as a bandwagon star like KD.

Yet.

Certainly a quitter and a snake though.