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    I would rather have Josh Jackson and 16 then Ingram/Cuz/16/25.

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    Kawhi will be a Spur by the start of the season. I guarantee it.

    The real question is whether he will remain a Spur through the February

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    It’s either #1 pick, #16 pick, Josh Jackson, Devin Booker, and a few others plus they’ll have to take Gasol’s deal if there is no way to fix the Kawhi situation. If not, no deal and they ride it out with Kawhi. Lol accepting ing Josh Jackson as the best piece. Gtfo with that bull .

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    I really thought there would be some elite offers. But I’m a big Josh Jackson fan so maybe I’m biased, but he’s a big reason why I thought PHX was likely since I know SA love Jackson too.

    Have to wait and see.
    Personally, I say you don't just give Kawhi Leonard away under any cir stance. He's the only asset the Spurs have to get someone to rebuild around. Josh Jackson has shown nothing to indicate he'd be a cornerstone for the franchise. Just because he looked like a great prospect a year ago doesn't mean he's one now. You have another year of data, the best year of data on him, and he did not impress. At this point Josh Jackson is a throw-in to a Leonard trade I'd do. I'm not giving away a Hall of Famer in his prime for a guy who might be a good starter in the best case and for a mid first round pick. I think it's reasonable to judge the trade by the best single asset you get in exchange because that's the only one that's likely to still be with the team in five years when they have hopefully built themselves back into one that can compete. And that best asset isn't very good in the garbage Suns trade Manu4Tres posted.

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    Kawhi will be a Spur by the start of the season. I guarantee it.

    The real question is whether he will remain a Spur through the February
    The longer this plays out the worst the offers are going to get imo. If teams are worried about a 1 year rental, how are they going to feel about a 3 month rental?

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    The longer this plays out the worst the offers are going to get imo. If teams are worried about a 1 year rental, how are they going to feel about a 3 month rental?
    I completely disagree. You think the Lakers are going to be able to sell LeBron on holding $30 million of capspace open for a year to sign Kawhi? How many years does LeBron think he has left to win a le? The Lakers are the reason the rumored Leonard offers have been such .

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    I think it is. Two years of a big cap hit from Parsons doesn't matter to a team in a full rebuild and getting a high pick for nothing would be nice. Plus tying two years of money into Parsons means they wouldn't want to pay Fathead. It's win-win.
    Kyle is a far far better player than Parsons is now. And will cost more the half the salary.

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    Kyle is a far far better player than Parsons is now. And will cost more the half the salary.
    It's not Kyle vs Parsons, it's the #4 puck vs the loss of Kyle and the loss of 2 years cap space.

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    The point of adding #4 to Parsons is to get off that money period, not to take back $23 million in Pau Gasol, no matter if his brother is there or not

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    Kyle is a far far better player than Parsons is now. And will cost more the half the salary.
    And the #4 pick is likely to be a far far better player than Anderson with exponentially better upside. He's not a guy to do a rebuild around. He could be a nice role player on a good team. But all a rebuilding team needs to be concerned with is finding new cornerstones, and Anderson is not that.

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    They should be in absolutely no rush whatsoever to do anything. Let it play out the rest of the summer. Make him come to training camp. Make him actually have to face the music with the media. Play in the preseason and yes even have to play quite a few games in the Spurs uniform next year. Or he can sit out another season and then see if anybody wants to sign him after that. I would be in no rush to trade him anywhere.

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    Manu cannot be traded due to his player option.

    Assuming I'm reading the CBA correctly and the trade machine numbers are right, there is no way they can take on Parsons contract with our current contracts unless LMA or Kawhi is involved. So trading for Parsons and getting the 4th pick isn't going to happen.

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    The longer this plays out the worst the offers are going to get imo. If teams are worried about a 1 year rental, how are they going to feel about a 3 month rental?
    I felt most of the season as this played out, that trade offers would not be all that great honestly. This guy in a lot of ways torpedoed his value by what he did last season. I don’t care what the media might be reporting, I am sure just about every single general manager in the league is seriously questioning Leonard‘s heart and character at this point in time. He flat out refuse to play basketball an entire season over an injury that essentially every medical opinion with the Spurs was basically saying was no big deal at all. A lot of people were reporting that he was basically sitting it out because he wanted that massive maximum extension. Did not want to risk further injury and not get it. Now we come to find out he doesn’t even care about that massive extension. So basically he just sat out because he is a ing crybaby that felt disrespected. I would not give up a lot of draft picks and players for him right now. No way.

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    The point of adding #4 to Parsons is to get off that money period, not to take back $23 million in Pau Gasol, no matter if his brother is there or not
    Taking back $23 million in Gasol still saves Memphis about $27 million, assuming the Spurs would just include $2.5 million to pay off the money owed to Ginobili.

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    And once it's decided that he's sitting, there needs to be leaks about how worried the front office is about whether he'll ever play again. How his legs are a ticking time bomb. How he might be able to look good in flashes but will have flare ups that cripple him.

    Time to scorched Earth his group. Keep the doubt out there, limit his long term multi year endorsement deals, make him have to really earn it.

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    Manu cannot be traded due to his player option.

    Assuming I'm reading the CBA correctly and the trade machine numbers are right, there is no way they can take on Parsons contract with our current contracts unless LMA or Kawhi is involved. So trading for Parsons and getting the 4th pick isn't going to happen.
    EDIT: , you're right, it would have to be someone else.

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    Taking back $23 million in Gasol still saves Memphis about $27 million, assuming the Spurs would just include $2.5 million to pay off the money owed to Ginobili.
    I just think they could do better. Dallas could eat the whole thing or close enough without sending nearly anything back.

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    And once it's decided that he's sitting, there needs to be leaks about how worried the front office is about whether he'll ever play again. How his legs are a ticking time bomb. How he might be able to look good in flashes but will have flare ups that cripple him.

    Time to scorched Earth his group. Keep the doubt out there, limit his long term multi year endorsement deals, make him have to really earn it.
    I wouldn't do that. I would just say Leonard's not a part of this team's future so is being held out pending a trade. No reason to make up stories.

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    If Kawhi elected not to play the upcoming season if the Spurs still hold his rights, can the Spurs pause the contract for another year?

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    I just think they could do better. Dallas could eat the whole thing or close enough without sending nearly anything back.
    They might, but if Memphis makes that offer to the Spurs I'm taking it.

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    Bill Simmons was doing a mock draft of the lottery on his pod today. They discussed Mavs trading the 5 and Barnes to Memphis in exchange for 4 and Parsons, assuming that Doncic slips to 4.

    That makes way more sense for Memphis than taking on Gasols deal. I just don't see there is any real way we can get that 4th pick.

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    Bill Simmons was doing a mock draft of the lottery on his pod today. They discussed Mavs trading the 5 and Barnes to Memphis in exchange for 4 and Parsons, assuming that Doncic slips to 4.

    That makes way more sense for Memphis than taking on Gasols deal. I just don't see there is any real way we can get that 4th pick.
    Yeah that makes worlds more sense.

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    I'm resigned to the fact that RC and Pop are about to be taken out to the woodshed via trade tbh

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    I'm resigned to the fact that RC and Pop are about to be taken out to the woodshed via trade tbh
    It’s so expected tbh. As a spurs fan it’s only fitting that we get trade raped.

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    lol phoenix is not that re ed. wish they were though.

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