Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[DPG21920]

I think they'd much rather get Ayton his shots. They're expecting him to be their franchise bigman, not someone to defer to a guy on the wrong side of 30 who will be declining rapidly by the time Ayton is seasoned enough for them to be a playoff team.

If that is the case you can trade LMA at that point, but I really think PHX would do that deal. But who knows.

[NASpurs]

So is it a coincidence that Kawhi and Pop met before the draft? Is there a good chance he gets traded in the next 24-36 hours?

[DPG21920]

So is it a coincidence that Kawhi and Pop met before the draft? Is there a good chance he gets traded in the next 24-36 hours?

I think the better way to put it would be is a draft day trade (or today) is a big mile marker to lookout for.

[DaBears]

GO figure at this point take the best offer on the table, but dont rush into it, lets not rush like CLE did with Irving trade.

[baseline bum]

GO figure at this point take the best offer on the table, but dont rush into it, lets not rush like CLE did with Irving trade.

If the best offer is Kuzma + Ingram, no thanks. The Lakers can say no to LeBron this summer and sign Kawhi next summer then.

[Spurs4#5]

If you look at all the crap out there posted by the media about kawhi not wanting to play for the spurs and being disgruntled because of x,y,and z. Then you look at the latest report that this meeting was schedule weeks ago and wasn’t in response to the trade rumors. All it sounds like is kawhis group trying to get leverage to get the super max. If you take away ESPN reporting because they obviously have an agenda to push for him to the Lakers, what reports do you have left? Only really Jabari Parker’s and Peter vescey. I’m a gambling man and I would bet on the odds of kawhi staying in San Antonio.

[objective]

Meh, doubt this is a huge factor for him at this point. Unlike Kawhi he has already proven himself to be a marketable guy on the National Level. He has a damn wide release motion picture coming out here soon. I don’t think it matters where he plays at this point.

Well, everyone in the NBA is marketable at the National Level. Kawhi doesn't have deals because he either doesn't want them or his managment team is full of incompetent vultures who have no clue how to get deals and are desperate for LA agencies to dump deals in their laps.

Kevin Love was a fat bum who had never even been to the playoffs in Minnesota and he had national ad campaigns back then.

Lillard had national campaigns in Portland.

Durant had his own movie in OKC. Westbrook has multi-million dollar campaigns in OKC.

Everyone who isn't a Gump or a basketcase has deals. Only Kawhi and his hustlers are unable to be marketable in San Antonio.

[objective]

So is it a coincidence that Kawhi and Pop met before the draft? Is there a good chance he gets traded in the next 24-36 hours?

I would guess coincidence.

After the draft is when they put together the summer league team and the coaches all get together to sort out their goals for the SL and Pop probably has to be there for that, and then who knows if he has any national team commitments. He could easily be too busy after the draft to get with Kawhi.

[JPB]

How about this overall scenario:

Rudy & Danny & Joff opt out. Manu retires. BP3 waived. SA clears the deck on all their cap holds (give or take 1 or 2 players with small holds).

SA trades LMA to PHX for Josh Jackson - PHX is trying to win now and they seemed to like LMA, this allows SA to shed salary but also get a young wing Kawhi replacement.

SA trades Kawhi to LA involving MEM for Ingram + Parsons + #4 + #25

So SA clears the deck on everyone except Murray, White, Pau, Mills, Ingram, Jackson & Parsons. They have picks 4, 18 & 25.

You can either package picks to move up or stay put and try to get something for Mills if you can.

But core is now Murray, White, Josh Jackson, Ingram and 4th pick (say Jaren Jackson Jr or Mo Bamba).

Perfect for tanking.

[objective]

If you look at all the crap out there posted by the media about kawhi not wanting to play for the spurs and being disgruntled because of x,y,and z. Then you look at the latest report that this meeting was schedule weeks ago and wasn’t in response to the trade rumors. All it sounds like is kawhis group trying to get leverage to get the super max. If you take away ESPN reporting because they obviously have an agenda to push for him to the Lakers, what reports do you have left? Only really Jabari Parker’s and Peter vescey. I’m a gambling man and I would bet on the odds of kawhi staying in San Antonio.

I don't think so anymore.

He could have played hardball without quitting on the season and faking how bad he was hurt. Too injured to sit on a bench but not too hurt to be bored at a Dodgers game.

He could have easily dropped the trade demand if he didn't get the SuperMax after the season. People leverage without quitting and running. Kobe leveraged in the parking lot of a fast food joint on video to get his way, he didn't sit out a whole damn year and hide. Shaq had surgery on company time and yelled at the owner, but he didn't quit and go home the last 4 months.

[tbdog]

Swingman prospects are weird bunches. They can tease you with greatness and then falter just a quick. Apart from Durant and Lebron, Leonard and PG are like the best wingmen, and they did not come top 5 in the draft. If we gonna build around Jackson or Ingam or Brown, you gonna be disappointed. Then they will cost you cause they put up numbers, see Harris.

[JPB]

perhaps in the "ideal world"
but in the real world, none of this will matter if he returns to play as before the injury, and if he really gets into a supertime and wins les in a "big market" he will be even more adored than before.



I hope he has a serious injury as soon as he gets on the court by another team, if all this information is true;

ps: Parker is an idiot, but Kawhi is disrespecting a franchise, and especially Popovich

Get your point but not so sure nowadays with social media and .

Look at Durant. Won two rings, two FMVPs and still perceived (and will be his whole life) as Durbeta, the guy who left his franchise to join a 73 win team he couldn't beat.

By the fans and the players (current and former).

Besides, as I said, Pop is an icon and the kind of the "group" is pulling is really making it worth than just bolting for LA, like Durant for GS who didn't sat a whole year in silence with a mysterious injury and inventing all kinds of excuses (was UFA but still)...

You can be sure tongues will loosen once the situation will clear. And it's not necessarily be pretty.

[NASpurs]

Trade for Kemba

[baseline bum]

Trade for Kemba

Bible Kemp finally gets his trade to the Nets, six years later

[toki9]

Trade for Kemba

And the trade market opens...

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Don't call him boy

[DPG21920]

So Mozgov, who has 2 fully guaranteed years of 16M each only took two second rounders to move. If SA needs to move Pau it should be relatively easy.

[NASpurs]

So Mozgov, who has 2 fully guaranteed years of 16M each only took two second rounders to move. If SA needs to move Pau it should be relatively easy.

And the Pau has no problem with being traded as he knows the Spurs might head towards another direction with the whole Kawhi fiasco being a key factor.

http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/pa...ded-from-spurs

[Uriel]

Reading some of the comments in this thread, I think the real question should be: if Pop is able to salvage the relationship with Kawhi Leonard, will Kawhi Leonard be able to salvage his relationship with Spurs fans?

[Spurs4#5]

I don't think so anymore.

He could have played hardball without quitting on the season and faking how bad he was hurt. Too injured to sit on a bench but not too hurt to be bored at a Dodgers game.

He could have easily dropped the trade demand if he didn't get the SuperMax after the season. People leverage without quitting and running. Kobe leveraged in the parking lot of a fast food joint on video to get his way, he didn't sit out a whole damn year and hide. Shaq had surgery on company time and yelled at the owner, but he didn't quit and go home the last 4 months.

Yeah I feel you but the only narrative of him quitting on his team is coming from this site. No one here actually knows the severity of his injury. He could’ve gotten advice saying don’t play until you feel 100% because of the whole situation with Isaiah Thomas and didn’t want to mess up his chances at getting a Super max deal. All I’m saying is he’s still a spur until he isn’t and I think if he’s not traded on draft night or before he’s staying a spur

[objective]

So Mozgov, who has 2 fully guaranteed years of 16M each only took two second rounders to move. If SA needs to move Pau it should be relatively easy.

Yes, but they also took back 23.8 million on the Howard deal. They really only got off of 9 million for the 2 seconds and cash.

[DPG21920]

Yes, but they also took back 23.8 million on the Howard deal. They really only got off of 9 million for the 2 seconds and cash.

For sure, but if SA wants off of Pau’s last year fully? Easy. Even to move the entire deal with taking back less/no salary should not be difficult.

If a team is looking to shed one year of bad salary like CHA, Pau could have POSITIVE value like Mozgov did because his 2nd year is only 6M guaranteed vs Moz who was fully guaranteed at 16M

[objective]

For sure, but if SA wants off of Pau’s last year fully? Easy. Even to move the entire deal with taking back less/no salary should not be difficult.

If a team is looking to shed one year of bad salary like CHA, Pau could have POSITIVE value like Mozgov did because his 2nd year is only 6M guaranteed vs Moz who was fully guaranteed at 16M

Yes, but maybe this is an outlier case because of how Kupchack must be really into Mozgov. Maybe Mitch thinks he fleeced Marks. :

[DPG21920]

^ True

[cd98]

Reading some of the comments in this thread, I think the real question should be: if Pop is able to salvage the relationship with Kawhi Leonard, will Kawhi Leonard be able to salvage his relationship with Spurs fans?

Pop isn't salvaging the relationship. He's keeping Kawhi from further damaging his trade value while the Spurs cook up a way to get maximum value for him.