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    They changed the linking code. You can still embed, but I forget the new code. have it in a notepad file somewhere... HOpe it wasn't too over the top.

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    SHOCKING! WE AS A NATION MUST NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE A TODDLER TO CRY! MUH MORALS!
    I can see why you might not be comfortable with such imagery. Why is that?

    Your first instinct is to turn it around on the poster, rather than address the trauma of separation of such a toddler from her parent in any meaningful way. Why is that?

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    Are you listening to Sarah McLachlan as you post these? #Tears
    Same for you too.

    Your moral failure to address the actual underlying issue proves a lot of criticisms of modern conservatism I have completely right.

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    4000 children (separated from their parents) in a West Texas tent city doesn't seem to impress you, so perhaps for you it does not rise to the level of emotional blackmail.

    you TUFF.
    That's exactly what this move is. Emotional leverage.

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    That's exactly what this move is. Emotional leverage.
    Crass as all but it's a monster lever.

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    Crass as all but it's a monster lever.
    For who? Unpack this one for me.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    It's a lever for Trump's agenda. He couldn't care less about the optics which makes it stronger.

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    He doesn't give 2 s one way or the other about the children which just lengthens the lever.

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    Exclusive: US officials likely lost track of nearly 6,000 unaccompanied migrant kids

    the Trump administration has likely lost track of nearly 6,000 unaccompanied migrant children, thousands more than lawmakers were alerted to last month, according to a McClatchy review of federal data.

    Federal officials acknowledged last month that nearly 1,500 unaccompanied minors arrived on the southern border alone without their parents and were placed with sponsors who did not keep in touch with federal officials, but those numbers were only a snapshot of a three- month period during the last fiscal year.

    “There is a lot more,” said a field specialist who worked in the Office of Refugee Resettlement until earlier this year and was tasked with reaching out to sponsors and children to check on their well-being.

    “You can bet that the numbers are higher. It doesn’t really give you a real picture.”


    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...s=mcnewsletter

    So all y'all Repug voters wanted little Latinas, and Latinos, getting raped as sex slaves by pedophiles, right?



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    Trump Administration Holding Babies And Toddlers In Multiple ‘Tender Age’ Shelters: AP

    There are three shelters running in South Texas, with a fourth one planned for Houston,

    “babies and other young children” are being sent to “tender age” shelters in Texas,

    Visitors to the centers described “playrooms of crying preschool-age children in crisis.”

    Children at the shelters were found to be “hysterical, crying and acting out.”

    “The thought that they are going to be putting such little kids in an ins utional setting? I mean it is hard for me to even wrap my mind around it,” Kay Bellor of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, a nonprofit that provides child welfare services to migrant children, told AP this week.

    “Toddlers are being detained,”



    https://twitter.com/mannyNYT/status/...b05d6c16c8c122


    Mic e Brane, director of migrant rights at the Women’s Refugee Commission, described seeing

    “5-year-olds in cages alone with no adult care” and a 4-year-old whose diapers were being changed by other detained children as she visited a facility where migrants were being held.

    On Monday, ProPublica released an audio clip of 10 young Central American children held by Border Patrol — many of them

    crying so hard that it sounded as if they could “barely breathe.”

    Lawyers and medical professionals who visited the shelters said they found the facilities to be “clean and safe” but stressed it wasn’t the centers themselves that were the issue.

    “The shelters aren’t the problem, it’s taking kids from their parents that’s the problem,”

    Research has shown that

    ins utionalizing children can cause lasting emotional scars, as well as physical and mental health issues.

    ″[Separating] children and parents at the border is a practice that has the potential to cause significant, lifelong harm to the children involved,”

    wrote the National Association of Pediatric Nurse Prac ioners in a statement last week denouncing the practice.

    “Research clearly shows that traumatic life experiences in childhood, especially those that involve loss of a caregiver or parent, cause lifelong risk for cardiovascular and mental health disease.”

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...gEmail__062018


    Trash, JeBo, Kelly, Nielsen will all long dead and the evil they're doing will live after them



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    A Troubling Prognosis for Migrant Children in Detention: ‘The Earlier They’re Out, the Better’

    Some youngsters retreat entirely, their eyes empty, bodies limp, their isolation a wall of defiance. Others cannot sit still: watchful, hyperactive, ever uncertain.

    Some compulsively jump into the laps of strangers, or grab their legs and hold on for life. And some children, somehow, move past a sudden separation from their parents, tapping a well of resilience.


    The Trump administration’s policy of separating migrant children from their parents has alarmed child psychologists and experts who study human development.

    psychologists have learned a great deal about what happens to ins utionalized children over time, and in that research there are clues to the potential emotional harms faced by migrant children severed from their parents.

    A number of medical organizations, including those governing psychology, psychiatry and pediatrics, have issued letters of protest, citing an increased risk of anxiety and depression in the children, as well as post-traumatic stress and attention-deficit disorder.


    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...gEmail__062018

    Having damaged the kids, like American society damages non-white kids with poverty, the Repug Steve Kings, etc will say blacks, browns are genetically inferior to whites.



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    if we kill them at the border, they'll stop coming.

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    if we kill them at the border, they'll stop coming.
    Stephen Miller dreams it.

    Mexicans throwing rocks across the border is a capital offense, rocks that trigger LE's magic, perfect defense "I Feared For My Life"
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-20-2018 at 09:04 AM.

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    Satire fail on my part of your basic Texas mouth breather.

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    Winehole.

    Hurd is a negra Republican.
    He’s a whiner.

    Why is he asking such questions about how these critters will eventually find each other, they got a great sense of smell.
    So yeah... I read your article from El Paso...

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    So yeah... I read your article from El Paso...
    speaking of el paso......i spent a month there one day.

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    Lol, CNN tries to shame this border patrol SPOK and he drops truth nukes


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    There is so much misinformation out there about the Trump administration's new "zero tolerance" policy of separating parents and children at the border. Before responding to a post defending this policy, please do your research..I'll make it easier for you:

    Myth: This is not a new policy and was practiced under Obama and Clinton - FALSE. The policy to separate parents and children is new and was ins uted on 4/6/2018. It was the brainchild of John Kelly to serve as a deterrent for undo ented immigration, approved by Trump, and adopted by Sessions. Prior administrations detained migrant families but didn’t have a practice of forcibly separating parents from their children unless the adults were deemed unfit.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...49751/download

    Myth: This is the only way to deter undo ented immigration - FALSE. Annual trends show that undo ented immigration is at a 46 year low. We do NOT have people rushing to cross our border. What we have are people crossing the border illegally because they've already been hired by a US company, or because they are seeking political asylum. Economic migrants come to this country because our country has kept the demand going. But again, most of these people are not economic migrants, they are asylum-seekers.

    https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854...it-46-year-low

    Myth: Most of the people coming across the border are just trying to take advantage of our country by taking our jobs - FALSE. Most of the parents who have been impacted by Trump's "zero tolerance" policy have presented themselves as political asylum-seekers at a U.S. port-of-entry, from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. Rather than processing their claims, they have been taken into custody on the spot and had their children ripped from their arms. The ACLU alleges that this practice violates the Asylum Act, and the UN asserts that it violates the UN Treaty on the State of Refugees, one of the few treaties the US has ratified. This is an illegal act on the part of the United States government, not to mention morally and ethically reprehensible.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/21/u...ant-labor.html

    Myth: We're a country that respects the Rule of Law, and if people break the law, this is what they get - FALSE. We are a country that has an above-ground system of immigration and an underground system. Our government (under both parties) has always been aware that US companies recruit workers in the poorest parts of Mexico for cheap labor, and ICE (and its predecessor INS) has looked the other way because this underground economy benefits our country to the tune of billions of dollars annually. Thus, even though the majority of people crossing the border now are asylum-seekers, those who are economic migrants (migrant workers) likely have been recruited here to do jobs Americans will not do.

    https://www.upi.com/Donald-Trumps-wa...2621477498203/

    Myth: The children have to be separated from their parents because their parents must be arrested and it would be cruel to put children in jail with their parents - FALSE. Seeking asylum is not against the law. Also, with regard to economic migrants, crossing the border without do entation is a misdemeanor not requiring an arrest. Additionally, parents have been detained with their children in ICE "family residential centers" for years. The Trump administration's shift in policy is for political purposes only, not legal ones.

    See p. 18: https://www.aclu.org/legal-do ent....dismiss-doc-56

    Myth: We have rampant fraud in our asylum process the proof of which is the significant increase we have in the number of people applying for asylum. FALSE. The increase in asylum seekers is a direct result of the increase in civil conflict and violence across the globe. While some people may believe that we shouldn't allow any refugees into our country because "it's not our problem," neither our current asylum law nor our ideological foundation as a country support such an isolationist approach. There is very little evidence to support Sessions' claim that abuse of our asylum-seeking policies is rampant. Also, what Sessions failed to mention is that the majority of asylum seekers are from China, not South of the border. Here is a very fair and balanced assessment of his statements:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m....em-fraudulent/

    Myth: This policy is legal. FALSE. The ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration on 5/6, and a recent court ruling denied the government's motion to dismiss the suit. The judge deciding the case stated that the Trump Administration policy is "brutal, offensive, and fails to comport with traditional notions of fair play and decency." The case is moving forward because it was deemed to have legal merit.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti....rder-quicktake

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/06/u...nts-court.html

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    People here talking policy, darrin pops in with “lol look what this cnn reporter did”

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    People here talking policy, darrin pops in with “lol look what this cnn reporter did”
    If you don’t like the law, contact your congressmen

    https://callyourrep.co

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    if you do not like the law MOVE
    alot of people said they would if trump won and they refuse they must like the usa and the changes that need to be done
    like enforcing the law

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    If you don’t like the law, contact your congressmen

    https://callyourrep.co
    oh. we should just replace this political forum with that URL

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    if you do not like the law MOVE
    alot of people said they would if trump won and they refuse they must like the usa and the changes that need to be done
    like enforcing the law
    did you move because you didn't like obamacare?

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    “We have to send a clear message just because your child gets across the border doesn’t mean your child gets to stay. We don’t want to send a message contrary to our laws or encourage more to come.”

    —HRC 2014

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    Resis s loosing their


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