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^ Bingo.
They definitely can, but this is assuming that both PG and Lebron want to go there. If Lebron resigns a one year with Cleveland, then whats to stop the Lakers from just waiting a year?
There is no surefire good play here. Its a gamble no matter what choice they make. There's something to be said about just moving on and getting the best you can now and focusing on the next year, too. No real good options, honestly.
^ Bingo.
He's under ing contact you dolt. He made a deal and wants out of it, like a made quitter, he is a snake. I hope he tears both his ACLs and achilees in his next game. himi'll never understand the vitriol over him wanting to leave. you want him to put his desire second to yours?i don't think he was healthy enough to play this past season. the only thing he's gotten out of not playing is bad press that hasn't stopped.if wanted to go to golden state then i could see the hate.we all want kawhi to speak but TBH he has nothing to gain from it. he already has the leverage. him having to say "i'm almost healthy" again and again would only drive his value down.
Could just say they're holding him out pending a trade. Isn't that what teams usually do so as to not worry about an injury screwing the deal up?
I think playing him next year isn't an option since he'll be a cancer and he's good enough to wreck draft positioning.
While that's true, that would also be another year and even more mileage on LeBron's body(he might be the greatest specimen in the history of pro sports, but he's still human, he's eventually going to decline) + a Kawhi who hasn't played basketball in almost 2 years..not to mention potentially alienating all your young players(Ingram, Kuzma and Ball) and having to deal with that for an entire season..
And gets a transfusion from Magic.
LA is going to want to get Kawhi as soon as possible. When you wait, things change. What if Kawhi plays a year and heals the relationship and decides to re-sign. That seems impossible now, but if its just petty stuff that is stopping him, you'd be surprised how that stuff heals once you go back to focusing on basketball. It's also a question of will Lebron want to uproot his high school age son after his freshman year. If Lebron goes to LA, I think he goes there this year. There is no guarantee what will happen for anyone, but the Spurs should be in no rush because there isn't a deal today that they can't get by the end of the summer.
If they can somehow come up with a higher draft pick then the ones they currently have, it would be hard to say no to the Clippers. Not excited about the draft beyond like #7, but the Spurs certainly know more about drafting than I do.
You're not wrong but I'm not sure its up to the Lakers. PG may well stay in OKC for more money and good luck guessing what Lebron wants to do. I definitely see the points you're making and the case for waiting and I'm not saying its wrong. I just think that its just as much a gamble as anything else.
I think it is obvious he could have played. What players play near the end of the season at 100%? Every player will say "no one". Kawhi and his camp admit he is 100% healthy now. To me that means he was 80% in March at least. Lead your team into the playoffs. It would be a no brainer for most stars. Guess tides are turning which is also I'm sure why a lot executives are rooting for Pop to treat Kawhi with some hostility. At this point let's hope it gets settled via a trade and things just settle down and we just start seeing some compe ive basketball. These Super teams and melodrama is terrible for the league let alone the stupid superstar calls like the ones CP3, Harden, and KD are pushing for every game. I will no longer be an NBA fan if those fouls start to become the norm in the next 2 years.i'll never understand the vitriol over him wanting to leave. you want him to put his desire second to yours?
if wanted to go to golden state then i could see the hate.
we all want kawhi to speak but TBH he has nothing to gain from it. he already has the leverage. him having to say "i'm almost healthy" again and again would only drive his value down.
I don't see PG staying in OKC contrary to what recent reports say. One of the insta s in LA just needs to DM his ass and Magic will have locked up by 12:01 on July 1st.
Of course there are deals they can get today that may not be available by the end of the summer. For instance, if the Lakers sign PG and Lebron, they're not going to be in the trade mix later. Things will change substantially after the draft tomorrow and then more so after free agency in July. That's not to say that the Spurs won't be in a better position in the late summer - they might - but they could just as easily be worse.
The truth is that no one can say for certain that one route is better than another barring some insane blockbuster trade.
Staying current on this thread soon to break 100 is a full time job. Literally.
If kawhi does get traded to clippers, he’ll definitely resign right?
He could, it would be funny for him to go from the Clippers to the Lakers after 1 season. The Kawhi to Clippers move could also get LeBron and PG to look there over the Lakers.
I wonder if LeBron is happy that Kawhi might be available or angry that this is taking all the attention away from his decision
Which is a good thing, since teams know Kawhi would have to take another discount to go to LA. Assuming PG13 and LeBron sign for max, once you figure in cap holds for empty roster spots under 12 the Lakers could offer Kawhi a 4 year, $130 million deal at most with the projected $108 million cap for 2019-20. Whatever team the Spurs trade him to (if they don't keep him) could offer 5 years, $179 million and other teams like the Clippers could offer 4 years, $139 million. If you make LA wait you also end the ability for the Lakers to stretch Deng, since his stretched salary would eat $7.36 million off the base salary they could pay Kawhi next summer, bringing their best offer to around 4 years, $99 million. So you'd be forcing Magic's hand into salary dumping one of Ingram or Ball this summer just to open up the space necessary to sign LeBron and PG13. The Lakers become much less of a threat IMO to other trade partners the Spurs could ship Kawhi off to if they lock LeBron and PG13 up. And if they don't sign them they wouldn't have salary dumped Ingram anyways, so I don't think the Spurs are any worse off waiting.
Just got back online. So, a quick scan seems to be that the Pop-Kawhi summit, probably did no good and KL said he officially wants out. Though Jabbari did say it went well and they'll meet again, which leaves a faint hope that they might come to terms. Is that about where we are now?
absolutely agree
teams are free to trade players, players are free to request trades.
Pretty much...so just like all along with this saga, nobody knows what the is going on.
cheers man.
Chaos. So weird for us Spurs fans.
that's pretty much the feeling i get. and yet, there are so many who act as if they do not what is going on.
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