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    Not trying to defend Kawhitter obviously, but we can't deny that things completely changed after Woj reported that the Spurs were far from offering the supermax. Even their bottom Jabari was reporting that "tensions had cooled" and was basically suggesting that an extension was imminent prior to the Woj report.

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    Kawhi's camp probably thought they played it well enough to get the super max and Buford and Pop laughed in their face.

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    Seems like he wanted out, but would stay if they gave him the 218 million right now. Even he probably doesn't trust his bum ass quad, so any talk of proving his fitness was a non-starter.

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    Honestly, if he's not 100% exactly the player he was before the injury or better, we dodged a bullet.

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    Seems like an overreaction to jump to your last card with the trade demand this early.

    But expecting the supermax after the last few months? Maybe if Kawhi phased out his uncle they could get there by October?

    Still, at some point this falls on Leonard. He chose not to play. He's not a functional re he's a grown ass man.

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    Let's not forget that between Leonard's group, ESPN, and the Lakers that last weekend was supposed to be the coup de grace, the trade demand leaked when Pop was supposed to meet with Leonard in Manhattan. Oh, and Jeannie Buss with the cryptic tweet geo-stamped in NYC.

    I think this ends with Leonard being moved to Milwaukee or Charlotte. Too much dumbass drama and collusion going on. Those teams are desperate enough to take the chance that Leonard might re-sign or that they could flip him for something better.

    The point of no return has been reached. Still frankly a mystery how it ended up here, but you can't escape the conclusion that this is what Leonard wanted.

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    Let's not forget that between Leonard's group, ESPN, and the Lakers that last weekend was supposed to be the coup de grace, the trade demand leaked when Pop was supposed to meet with Leonard in Manhattan. Oh, and Jeannie Buss with the cryptic tweet geo-stamped in NYC.

    I think this ends with Leonard being moved to Milwaukee or Charlotte. Too much dumbass drama and collusion going on. Those teams are desperate enough to take the chance that Leonard might re-sign or that they could flip him for something better.

    The point of no return has been reached. Still frankly a mystery how it ended up here, but you can't escape the conclusion that this is what Leonard wanted.

    What was the cryptic tweet?

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    It's not surprising the Spurs were far from offering supermax at the time woj reported it, considering everything. The bigger mystery in my mind is what role the supermax played earlier on, with Kawhi sitting out the entire second half of the season.

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    Seems like he wanted out, but would stay if they gave him the 218 million right now. Even he probably doesn't trust his bum ass quad, so any talk of proving his fitness was a non-starter.
    Feels like panic from Leonard's camp. After spending last season basically spreading the idea that the Spurs screwed up his health and avoiding playing, now it's give us the supermax! But trade me to LA first!

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    It's just weird though how everything seemed patched up before that. Even after the trade demand both Woj and Jabari kept stating that "it could still be worked out" and that they wouldn't be surprised if it did. I took that as them saying that if the supermax is offered, he signs.

    Was Pop expecting a hometown discount even before this unfolded or would he have had no problem offering it if Kawhi repeated his 16-17 season? I'm also wondering if Kawhi's group wanted their cake and to eat it too. Maybe they wanted to cash out (hence why they made it seem like the relationship was well on it's way to being repaired) and then demand a trade a year later.

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    Feels like panic from Leonard's camp. After spending last season basically spreading the idea that the Spurs screwed up his health and avoiding playing, now it's give us the supermax! But trade me to LA first!
    Don't forget that,"He's 100%"

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    Honestly, Kawhi probably just needed to show up to the Pop meeting, give some lip service about how dedicated he is to the team and the Spurs likely offer the supermax.

    If their end goal was just end up with a supermax, they couldn't have gone about it in a stupider fashion. But, I think there is definitely some truth to Kawhi wanting to play in LA.

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    Honestly, Kawhi probably just needed to show up to the Pop meeting, give some lip service about how dedicated he is to the team and the Spurs likely offer the supermax.

    If their end goal was just end up with a supermax, they couldn't have gone about it in a stupider fashion. But, I think there is definitely some truth to Kawhi wanting to play in LA.
    I could see that. Could also see PATFO wanting to see some demonstration of good faith and health from him first.

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    The funny thing is that I am sure the Spurs already had reservations about giving Leonard the supermax and with Pop nearing the end of his coaching career were probably thinking that this would be a good time for a rebuild. Moving Leonard for a package of picks and young players would jump start that process.

    Now they have all the cover they'd ever need with the fanbase to do just that.

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    Why the does the supermax exist in the first place?

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    Chicken doesn't deserve the supermax--the supermax is reserved for guys that actually play

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    The funny thing is that I am sure the Spurs already had reservations about giving Leonard the supermax and with Pop nearing the end of his coaching career were probably thinking that this would be a good time for a rebuild. Moving Leonard for a package of picks and young players would jump start that process.

    Now they have all the cover they'd ever need with the fanbase to do just that.
    Are you talking about reservations after the he pulled this season or before? Because if they had reservations before he pulled all this bull then that would have been re ed as .

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    Why the does the supermax exist in the first place?
    To give elite players more incentive to stay in small markets.

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    Why the does the supermax exist in the first place?
    In theory to help smaller market teams retain great players and of course greater revenue share for those players.

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    Fredo Leonard, tbh.

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    For Elite players who don't have a blood sucking Uncle

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    I'm thinking PATFO put that "far from offering the supermax" info out there to draw a line of where negotiations would start and Kawhi's group is so incompetent that they took it as a hostile act and decided to press the nuclear button.

    I mean pound for pound (no pun intended) SA doesn't stack up to LA, then you add the fact that that is home for him and I don't really blame him for preferring LA. The supermax was always supposed to be our trump card. Was it not offered because Kawhi's incompetent group prematurely pressed the nuclear button or because Pop was always expecting a hometown discount?

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    Honestly, Kawhi probably just needed to show up to the Pop meeting, give some lip service about how dedicated he is to the team and the Spurs likely offer the supermax.

    If their end goal was just end up with a supermax, they couldn't have gone about it in a stupider fashion. But, I think there is definitely some truth to Kawhi wanting to play in LA.
    There is room between what another team could offer and the supermax. I think that was always PATFO's targeted landing area - not the full supermax. Just based on their history.

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    Why would they offer it to a dude who was essentially out all season without a discussion first?

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    I'm thinking PATFO put that "far from offering the supermax" info out there to draw a line of where negotiations would start and Kawhi's group is so incompetent that they took it as a hostile act and decided to press the nuclear button.

    I mean pound for pound (no pun intended) SA doesn't stack up to LA, then you add the fact that that is home for him and I don't really blame him for preferring LA. The supermax was always supposed to be our trump card. Was it not offered because Kawhi's incompetent group prematurely pressed the nuclear button or because Pop was always expecting a hometown discount?
    With this phantom injury would the Spurs want to be on the hook for six more seasons and $240 mil? I'm thinking there's some resistance from the people who sign the checks.

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