Let's take a moment to reflect on what an absolute disgrace Kawhi's turned out to be.

[sasaint]

Even if they managed to land both LeBron and Leonard the pressure will be out of control on that team. Certainly most of the pressure will fall to LeBron but the expectation will be that they have to win a championship. And come playoff time Leonard will be expected to do a lot. Because one of the main reasons LeBron would go to LA is to play alongside what he thinks is going to be the Leonard before all of this drama and bull that occurred his final season with the spurs. He has to return to form. That’s a lot of pressure. He is showing to be very mentally weak.

I think you are confusing on-court Kawhi and off-court Kawhi. Dude is not weak in any sense when he is playing basketball.

[Marcus Bryant]

I said that numerous times last season when some people were saying the spurs could basically name their price in a trade. That was 100% true coming off his previous season when he was a top three player in the league. He torpedoed his own trade value by sitting it out over what I guarantee you most teams believe was a minor injury. Now he is saying he only wants to play for Los Angeles. It’s a train wreck. All the way around a train wreck.

Not just minor injury but also transparently sabotaging a playoff team's chances by not playing when it's apparent you could because you wanted to be traded. LeBron clearly wants out of Cleveland but he certainly played.

Also bad-mouthing a coach and franchise that are well regarded and have a good rep.

Up until the last few weeks I think the Spurs were approaching him with kid gloves, still thinking that we're going to work to get him back where he's comfortable playing and mend the relationship and yeah start talking extension.

That's changed, I think. It's business. You don't want to be here? Well, you have a year left on your contract and we are going to do what is best for the team.

[dbreiden83080]

I think you are confusing on-court Kawhi and off-court Kawhi. Dude is not weak in any sense when he is playing basketball.

He didn’t play all season long because of some off court drama. You can’t be great on the court when you won’t even get out there and play. And then there is the injury factor. Why would anyone believe this is the end of all of that bull ? He won’t play hurt. Like ever. This is a player that literally sat on his ass all season arguing with team doctors that his quad hurt. They took MRI after MRI and told him it shows nothing. He is very soft mentally. 100% soft.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Bass wasn't the GM at the time, Pop was. I believe the gambling debts thing, though.

Bob Bass was the GM in 1993 the year Rodman arrived. After Rodman got here, he started demanding a new contract which Bass and the Spurs resisted. Rodman was quoted as saying something derogatory about, "Bill Bass, or whatever that guy's name is." In 1994 McCombs sold the Spurs and Gen. McDermott fired Bass and brought in Pop as GM. The 94-95 season was a circus culminating with Rodman's antics in the playoffs. The comments about Rodman's debts and financial troubles were told to me by a member of Spurs management. Although later on I knew several people who had heard the same story.

[Benoit]

[Lostwingman]

Million dollar question that riders crying about how people are being mean to lil'whi need to answer.

[Dingle Barry]

If he's still here I'd hope Pop plays him 48 mins/game and run his ass into the ground Thibs/DAntoni style

This is the least likely scenario. Kawhitter will just fly off to NYC all season again if we don't trade him.

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi saved this franchise. Gtfo. Losing to 8 seeds before he got here. Ungrateful Spurm fans, no wonder Kawhi wants out from this hole.

Rob

[Dingle Barry]

He didn’t play all season long because of some off court drama. You can’t be great on the court when you won’t even get out there and play. And then there is the injury factor. Why would anyone believe this is the end of all of that bull ? He won’t play hurt. Like ever. This is a player that literally sat on his ass all season arguing with team doctors that his quad hurt. They took MRI after MRI and told him it shows nothing. He is very soft mentally. 100% soft.

Soft, self absorbed, and has zero character or interpersonal skills.

Other than that he's great.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Oh how I wish I had the runs so I could put it in a container with a sealable top and send it to Kawhi and tell him it is some good ol' south Texas chili. Maybe I'll just pick up a fresh green cow patty this morning from the back 40 and send that to Kawhi and tell him it is Japanese Green Tea thickened with protein powder and egg whites and it'll turn him from a spoiled child to a man, a sissified girlie man. Oh wait, he is already a SGM. What an asshole! Hopefully you'll never win another NBA Championship!

[Spurtacular]

Spurs built around Kawhi and gave him everything he wanted and he repays them by being chickensh** c*nt.

[spursistan]

Million dollar question that riders crying about how people are being mean to lil'whi need to answer.

Simple common sense, tbh..

I started detecting bull when it emerged in February that he was cleared by Spurs doctors for months. Every bit of information/behavior regarding him has been incriminating, which is why I took off the gloves on his quitting ass..

[SAGirl]

If he does go to the Lakers I will be very interested to see how that aspect of the marriage goes. Short honeymoon I expect. I have been saying for many moons that Kawhi does not want to be the face of ANY franchise. The thing that would save the situation would be for LeBron to sign there so that Kawhi could live in his shadow and just play basketball. I believe that is exactly what the Lakers are pitching to both Kawhi and LeBron. Now THAT would be the perfect marriage.

I am starting to think you are right. Aside from playing (when he's not hurt), he doesn't really want the other burdens of being a franchise player: the social aspects, the leadership aspects, the having to talk to media,anything social... it's not him. He will probably say he's tried and done as much on that end as he could.

[FkLA]

Oh how I wish I had the runs so I could put it in a container with a sealable top and send it to Kawhi and tell him it is some good ol' south Texas chili. Maybe I'll just pick up a fresh green cow patty this morning from the back 40 and send that to Kawhi and tell him it is Japanese Green Tea thickened with protein powder and egg whites and it'll turn him from a spoiled child to a man, a sissified girlie man. Oh wait, he is already a SGM. What an asshole! Hopefully you'll never win another NBA Championship!

This is such a Texan post.

[Proxy]

Disgrace lol... helped the team get another ring. That 14 team is like, one of the best teams of all time.

[sasaint]

I am starting to think you are right. Aside from playing (when he's not hurt), he doesn't really want the other burdens of being a franchise player: the social aspects, the leadership aspects, the having to talk to media,anything social... it's not him. He will probably say he's tried and done as much on that end as he could.

The proof is in the 9-month pudding that has been this ordeal. The guy makes Timmy look absolutely gregarious. He is essentially a-social. Wherever he goes, he needs somebody to assume all those customary alpha responsibilities.

[spursistan]

Disgrace lol... helped the team get another ring. That 14 team is like, one of the best teams of all time.

Yeah, I'm sure this how it should go: "OK Kawhi you can take a on this franchise now that you were of member of the team that won the le 4 years ago; after all, it is not like you have been getting paid 19 millions to refrain from doing it. You've been doing charity work for all these years playing in this hole!"..

[tholdren]

Disgrace lol... helped the team get another ring. That 14 team is like, one of the best teams of all time.

He was the fourth option the whole playoffs. New spurs fans are worse than warriors fans

[Proxy]

Jesus, both of you are idiots

[tholdren]

Jesus, both of you are idiots

4th option. Bye

[bic50]

My goodness the amount of crying about this is hilarious.

[Marcus Bryant]

How he went from model and beloved Spur to Mo Cheeks living at an hotel near the airport waiting to get the out over the last year is quite the accomplishment.

[dbreiden83080]

I was pretty disgusted watching undisputed today when Shannon Sharpe who just basically wants the Lakers or whoever to get this guy so he can pair up with LeBron, was basically saying “well he can just fake the injury all he wants next season and refuse to play until they trade him”.. That behavior is ing disgraceful. $19 million so you can pretend that you are injured and some people are actually cool with that. What the is going on? How the did he have such an amazing season and last couple of years with us and now all of a sudden this is what is going on? What the happened?

[toki9]

I was pretty disgusted watching undisputed today when Shannon Sharpe who just basically wants the Lakers or whoever to get this guy so he can pair up with LeBron, was basically saying “well he can just fake the injury all he wants next season and refuse to play until they trade him”.. That behavior is ing disgraceful. $19 million so you can pretend that you are injured and some people are actually cool with that. What the is going on? How the did he have such an amazing season and last couple of years with us and now all of a sudden this is what is going on? What the happened?

And that's an ex-professional player advocating hold out...

[Mr. Body]

I was pretty disgusted watching undisputed today when Shannon Sharpe who just basically wants the Lakers or whoever to get this guy so he can pair up with LeBron, was basically saying “well he can just fake the injury all he wants next season and refuse to play until they trade him”.. That behavior is ing disgraceful. $19 million so you can pretend that you are injured and some people are actually cool with that. What the is going on? How the did he have such an amazing season and last couple of years with us and now all of a sudden this is what is going on? What the happened?

ESPN, man.