Right.. Jabari Young did say (fwiw) he expected more dialogue after the first Pop/Kawhi talk, they'll probably try and work things out as much as possible. If it still seems like it's going nowhere by a certain date, they'll probably be more aggressive.
What is likely to improve with time is his insistence that he will only sign with LA in 2019. If the Lakers sign a couple big-name free agents this summer, Kawhi would have to sign an absurdly below-market contract to join them. If they strike out this summer, then sure Kawhi could sign there for the max, but the Lakers would be nothing more than second-round fodder at best.
It’s only right now that they can form a superteam if they can pry Leonard away. The window will close quickly.
Exactly. I'm sure someone will trash them tonight for doing nothing. I can see the 100 threads already.
If anything, this organization will not panic and just do something to make something happen. This is a dire situation they are in, but they have earned the benefit of the doubt to do what is right. This isn't Vlade Divac making awful deals.
This is a very different situation than usual. I feel Kawhi and his group are doing all they can to burn this team as much as they can on the way out.
Careful, the entire board will pile on and call you spoiled for not wanting a team with no future prospects and whose only talent is all on the wrong side of 30 to hold on to that last playoff seed with a death grip for the right to get curbstomped in the first round.
It’s ok to admit how much you love Kawhi...just look down at your shirt to remind yourself
I think the Spurs are just letting the market set the price for Kawhi...everybody knows that the Spurs are in a bad spot...and everybody knows that you get pennies on the dollar in these scenarios...so there's no benefit to the Spurs in prematurely setting the price floor by actively seeking out trades. By publicly saying that they're still hoping to retain Kawhi but privately listening to unsolicited offers, they're basically saying we don't want to trade him but if you blow us out of the water, we might do it. This way, the team is letting the other 29 teams bid against their own imagination/fears and against each other. It's a good play, particularly given that the Spurs don't really have many options. I do believe that they want to trade him at this point.
He can't put together as good of a trade as either Boston or Philly.
I'm sure they will listen and if something great comes up they might trade. Otherwise Kawhi is under contract, already sat out a year, and I'd be very pissed about paying him for another or making a bad trade. If he doesn't show at camp, I'm sure they can suspend him without pay...not a bad way to save $20 million. Add that to the $80 million he's already losing. Good work Uncle Dennis!!
That's why I want to send him to the Clippers. That's the surest way to keep the Laker superteam from forming and getting something in return IMO.
See, I almost want them to hold onto him at this point and force the rat bas to play. I think he also declared he is 100% healthy too, so he will be exposed for the liar he is.
I'm sure he will pull something and say he is hurt and sit out again. You're right. Fine his ass next season.
Indeed! Those teams could come up with something worthwhile, but Kawhi and his 'team' might try to sabotage the deal, which might send him to Spurs training camp in the end. I seriously doubt them sending to the Lakers.
Assuming the Lakers sign James + PG13 to max deals, if the Lakers can find someone to take Deng they can offer a 4 year, $130 million deal to Kawhi next summer (market value would be his 30% max of 4 years, $139 million). But by waiting it forces LA to have to salary dump one of Ball or Ingram in July if they want to keep that ability to pay Leonard. If they stretch Deng so as to not have to salary dump their top two prospects then the best they'll be able to do next summer is 4 years, $99 million, and obviously Kawhi's not taking another $40 million short after walking away from the first $40 million he loses by not signing a Bird FA deal. So you dare the Lakers to dump one of their top two young players for nothing without any assurance of getting Leonard.
But even in that best case for LA, is LeBron going to sign there with Magic telling him he's holding onto capspace for a year to sign Kawhi? I say no, James walks if Magic isn't prepared to do everything he can to win a le in 2018-19, because LeBron's gotta be thinking how many prime years do I have left to win a le.
But if our only option now is a Philly-style rebuild, who cares?
Couldn't agree more....especially after taking 20 mil from the Spurs last season!
Because Boston and Philly both have talented prospects they can offer. Players with higher ceilings than anyone obtainable from either LA team.
no doubt. Years from now so many will be shaking their heads at how much this hurt Kawhi. Pop probably honestly told him that too. He probably said, hey cool you want to go to LA? I'm fine with that, but your "group" has lead you down a dangerous path. You can still be your own man and I will do my best to help you out, but if you let them continue to make piss poor decisions for you, I will be forced to play hard ball and you will stand to lose a lot. You may eventually get to play for LA, but you will lose a ton of money. Ultimately, I have to do what is best for the Spurs organization.
I don't get this insistence on getting something in return. You want to try to get something good in return. Tobias Harris would pretty useless in a rebuild and late lottery picks aren't all that valuable unless RC sees someone he absolutely loves still available like Kawhi in 2011. If that's the case then yeah you make that deal. But that's the only way I see it making any sense.
But if we're dumping all the other vets, we can get younger players and picks for them.
If we're blowing it up, blow it up now. If blocking the Lakers is a priority, the Clippers are still the best option. Holding onto a guy who has already been willing to fake an injury for a year is madness.
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My take is that both parties agreed to pipe down amicably not to feed the frenzy, will pursue a big name agent aka LeBron then offer close to Supermax. At least that’s what I’m hoping
Harris is expiring. We either want picks or we don't. Praying that Kawhi's uncle changes his mind just doesn't seem like the best strategy to me.
And miss out getting lottery pick on the draft to rebuild? I think they are not trading Kawhi. And convinced that they can bring in a big talent prior to signing
They won't be able to trade Harris for months and you think you're getting better prospects and picks from moving him than from Kawhi who can no longer go to the Lakers without taking a big pay cut? There is no reason to move him for pennies on the dollar right now unless Buford absolutely loves someone in the draft at 12. If James and PG13 go to LA and the Spurs haven't capitulated by then that means the Lakers are likely to go out and sign Cousins. The super team in LA dream dies and now Boston and Philly aren't scared of him taking a $40 million paycut to join LA's B-team and be second round fodder when he can win les and get paid in the East in a big market.
Lakers stil havent blinked.
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