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    Time is on the Spurs side. If James goes to the Lakers he's making sure Magic is doing everything he can to win now, not to win in a year. No way James signs there and oks Magic holding a $30 slot for Kawhi open for a year when that could go to players right now. If he goes to Philly then Boston has to counter, especially to keep Kawhi out of Philly too. If he stays in Cleveland then oh well, we're right back to where we are now except now Kawhi would be taking an $80 million paycut to go to the Lakers to play with Paul George, not to play with Paul George and LeBron.
    Yes. This isn't before the trade deadline. While Magic and ESPN may have a timetable, that's their problem, Leonard's under contract. And West too.

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    It's a win, because he either gets in line and you have a top 5 player on your team, or he now has 0 leverage and in a year the Spurs can trade him wherever they want and will get a much better return than Ingram and Kuzma.
    Plus Kawhi is getting 40+mil instead of 19mil when he pulls this again

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    , if Uncle Dennis secures a supermax for Kawhi this summer, guys should be lining up to hire this asap
    He was getting that before any of this happened you dumb .

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    He was getting that before any of this happened you dumb .
    So a guy can either a) have an injury severe enough that costs him most of the season b) fake an injury that costs him most of the season....

    And STILL get paid 219mil cuz of a coupe of leaks? Damn Uncle D bending RC and Pop over without even a steak dinner....

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    Time is on the Spurs side. If James goes to the Lakers he's making sure Magic is doing everything he can to win now, not to win in a year. No way James signs there and oks Magic holding a $30 slot for Kawhi open for a year when that could go to players right now. If he goes to Philly then Boston has to counter, especially to keep Kawhi out of Philly too. If he stays in Cleveland then oh well, we're right back to where we are now except now Kawhi would be taking an $80 million paycut to go to the Lakers to play with Paul George, not to play with Paul George and LeBron.
    Good points

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    Time is on the Spurs side. If James goes to the Lakers he's making sure Magic is doing everything he can to win now, not to win in a year. No way James signs there and oks Magic holding a $30 slot for Kawhi open for a year when that could go to players right now. If he goes to Philly then Boston has to counter, especially to keep Kawhi out of Philly too. If he stays in Cleveland then oh well, we're right back to where we are now except now Kawhi would be taking an $80 million paycut to go to the Lakers to play with Paul George, not to play with Paul George and LeBron.
    We're also pretending that LeBron has a ton of time left in the league. He's not a young guy. He's in great shape, but if he gets a long contract, he's not going to the the player we see now at the end of it.

    Lakers have to know this, pushing them a bit.

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    We're also pretending that LeBron has a ton of time left in the league. He's not a young guy. He's in great shape, but if he gets a long contract, he's not going to the the player we see now at the end of it.

    Lakers have to know this, pushing them a bit.
    Since his return to Cleveland, LeBron has been signing 1+1 deals. He may sign one more. But you are right; LeBron will inevitably be a different player in 4 years. He will want to sign a longer deal at some point.

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    So a guy can either a) have an injury severe enough that costs him most of the season b) fake an injury that costs him most of the season....

    And STILL get paid 219mil cuz of a coupe of leaks? Damn Uncle D bending RC and Pop over without even a steak dinner....
    Players have gotten max deals coming off serious injuries, Wes Mathews, Parsons, and probably Cousins as well. Leonard injury isn't serious. They just played it way too safe (that is if its a non fake injury)

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    Did you mean "can" or "can't"? Seems to me like people on here don't think that the Spurs can land anybody.
    No I meant can.. There are some who think we should be able to land anyone and be like the Warriors apparently. The expectations are just out of whack

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    So when is the deadline to offer the super max to Kawhi? October?

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    No I meant can.. There are some who think we should be able to land anyone and be like the Warriors apparently. The expectations are just out of whack
    Man, I don't read enough of those comments to counterbalance the ones about never getting any FAs.

    Truth is, it is a 2-way street. There aren't that many FAs that PATFO would be willing to bring aboard. Most wouldn't fit into the Spurs culture, or they haven't gotten over themselves... I imagine that there are some guys who would consider signing here that Pop just wouldn't bother with. On the other hand, there are probably many more that wouldn't consider playing in SA or for an authoritarian coach.

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    If Lebron wants to go to a team that he can take over the top he should go to the 76ers not the Lakers.

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    I'm not sure why he fell five to eight slots from where he had been projected. But it's the draft...
    I thought I read somewhere about his medical reports showing some concerns but I'm not sure what that could have been.

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    the comments that buford made really point to the spurs being willing to keep leonard for the upcoming season which would likely surprise uncle dennis. it may piss him off even more but it may also change the landscape enough for leonard to finally realize that money does matter and that the spurs are his best option. and the leonard to lakers scenario grows less and less likely over time.
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    Eh, I don't know that Kawhitter will necessarily have to play just because they came out and said he is 100% right now. He could always fabricate another injury and all it would probably take is another "second opinion" to avoid getting in any legal trouble. Didn't he miss some games in between the 9 games he did play with like a sore shoulder?

    Ideally, he falls in line and Dennis the Menace s off but I'm not holding my breath. I'm also not in favor of forcing Manu into retirement because of this got. If Manu want to play another year and Kawhi states he doesn't want him I say tough mother er. Parker I don't have a problem letting go, but not because of any comment he made about Kawhitter, just simply because he sucks and probably doesn't have a role on this team anymore. These are guys that will always be around the Spurs, I'm not kicking them on the ass on the way out the door for a guy who seemingly doesn't give a about this organization.

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    Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.

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    Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.
    I think James is bailing this offseason - why stick around even for one more year? LA was likely the master plan, now he just goes to Philly.

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    Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.
    Yup that's my biggest fear Lebron and PG will do 1 year deals with their current teams.

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    Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.
    Would OKC really do that? I don't know if they'd want to have a Paul George hanging around who's just burning time.

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    Not sure why some people are making it seem like the Supermax is some sort of win for the front office if Kawhi accepts it....
    Like RC said they'll offer him the supermax..

    This is only strategy.
    The Spurs aren't getting what they expected for Kawhi and RC is telling other teams "we're fine, we're not desperate, if you want our guy, you better improve your offer"

    RC is just bluffing. They don't want to keep Kawhi, this is just part of the negotiations with other teams.

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    I thought I read somewhere about his medical reports showing some concerns but I'm not sure what that could have been.
    He tore his meniscus and then I think tore it a second time.

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    Eh, I don't know that Kawhitter will necessarily have to play just because they came out and said he is 100% right now. He could always fabricate another injury and all it would probably take is another "second opinion" to avoid getting in any legal trouble. Didn't he miss some games in between the 9 games he did play with like a sore shoulder?

    Ideally, he falls in line and Dennis the Menace s off but I'm not holding my breath. I'm also not in favor of forcing Manu into retirement because of this got. If Manu want to play another year and Kawhi states he doesn't want him I say tough mother er. Parker I don't have a problem letting go, but not because of any comment he made about Kawhitter, just simply because he sucks and probably doesn't have a role on this team anymore. These are guys that will always be around the Spurs, I'm not kicking them on the ass on the way out the door for a guy who seemingly doesn't give a about this organization.
    Between Boston and Philly you can get decent return for Leonard, if the stupidity continues. Let the clock run out on the supermax and make a deal. Start the rebuild in earnest and stockpile picks and young players.

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    If Lebron wants to go to a team that he can take over the top he should go to the 76ers not the Lakers.
    That's true on paper. Embiid's health will probably always be the big question mark in that equation, though.

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    It's still a business. Leonard back to actually playing for you at an elite level and a working relationship restored is much better than the alternative.

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    Would OKC really do that? I don't know if they'd want to have a Paul George hanging around who's just burning time.
    And would LeGOAT be willing to waste a year given his age? I really doubt they'd wait around for Kawhi.

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