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    I forgot that one of the reasons I stopped posting in here for years was because of all the stupid people for whom you have to spoon-feed every detail of every point, and who cop an at ude to boot.
    Amen.

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    It’s kind of like people forgot that the Lakers had one of the best records in the league sometime after the all star break
    They were 7-8 in March and 2-5 in April

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    They were 7-8 in March and 2-5 in April

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    Danny just knows Kawhi wasn't at the club last night.

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    Why are Lakers fans and media so desperate to get Kawhi in a trade?

    Just wait a year and sign him free agency. And you can keep Ingram and Kuzma and Ball.

    AND you can make sure he's *healthy* by waiting a year to make sure.

    AND since it's not about the money I'm sure Kawhi will sign for whatever cap room is there. It's all about being home, right? And only playing for the Lakers, right?

    Why so panicked?
    Laker fans steering clear.

    Time to fire up the trade machine and send Deng to Atlanta and Schroeder to the Spurs.

    Who says no, right guys?

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    "Shelburne and Adrian Wojnarowski noted Leonard will alert teams interested in acquiring him that he intends to sign in Los Angeles when he's eligible for free agency next summer. "

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    They were 7-8 in March and 2-5 in April
    Okay, I was wrong. But after just looking at their schedule I realized why my mind remembered that. They were 8-2 after all star break and then went on a losing streak. But I remember the buzz they had during that 8-2 (of course Lakers new is overblown on minor streaks). But I do think some of their core players started missing games around that time. But it’s true I did react too quick off memory without looking it up. But the core of their roster when healthy isn’t “ ty”.

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    "Shelburne and Adrian Wojnarowski noted Leonard will alert teams interested in acquiring him that he intends to sign in Los Angeles when he's eligible for free agency next summer. "
    Should've just traded him Clippers.

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    did tony win back to back defensive player of the year awards back then too?
    Did Kawhi win three les in his first six years in the league. Stop, just stop.

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    "Shelburne and Adrian Wojnarowski noted Leonard will alert teams interested in acquiring him that he intends to sign in Los Angeles when he's eligible for free agency next summer. "
    I call BS on that... if he waits til FA, even if LA has the cap space, he will lose a ton of money unless that team agrees to sign and trade.. I don’t think his camp lets it go that far, then again they’ve screwed up a lot already

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    Okay, I was wrong. But after just looking at their schedule I realized why my mind remembered that. They were 8-2 after all star break and then went on a losing streak. But I remember the buzz they had during that 8-2 (of course Lakers new is overblown on minor streaks). But I do think some of their core players started missing games around that time. But it’s true I did react too quick off memory without looking it up. But the core of their roster when healthy isn’t “ ty”.
    Wow so they're china dolls too. The Laker deal keeps looking better and better.

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    I call BS on that... if he waits til FA, even if LA has the cap space, he will lose a ton of money unless that team agrees to sign and trade.. I don’t think his camp lets it go that far, then again they’ve screwed up a lot already
    This is not true. You can’t get Bird raises in a sign and trade anymore. Unless he’s traded to LA before the trade deadline he stands to lose those Bird raises in his deal with them.

    Also, he can’t sign an extension anywhere close to his possible max next season EXCEPT if the Spurs offer the supermax.


    Wow so they're china dolls too. The Laker deal keeps looking better and better.
    That 8-2 streak included games against the Hawks, Kings, Magic and Mavs. Of the teams who made the playoffs, they beat the Nuggets on the road (as we all know their home/road splits are huge), the Heat (shot lights out so good for them), the Cavs (no Love or Thompson), and Spurs (no Aldridge).

    Total fools gold.
    Last edited by cjw; 06-23-2018 at 04:41 PM.

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    Yeah there is no gain whatsoever from sign and trades any more. It's not only the raises though, he also loses the extra year by not signing a Bird deal.

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    Did Kawhi win three les in his first six years in the league. Stop, just stop.
    right, because tony won those all by himself.

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    Did Pop disparage Duncan thru the media? I don't think so. Big difference.
    He didn't disparage Kawhi either. Stop making up.

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    Brandon Ingram>Kuzma & everybody else in that ty trade outside KL.
    Neither are that good tbqh

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    "Shelburne and Adrian Wojnarowski noted Leonard will alert teams interested in acquiring him that he intends to sign in Los Angeles when he's eligible for free agency next summer. "
    The Spurs should have traded him on draft night before his trade value hits rock bottom.

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    The Spurs should have traded him on draft night before his trade value hits rock bottom.
    That was when his trade value was rock bottom. They should wait out free agency.

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    That was when his trade value was rock bottom. They should wait out free agency.
    Absolutely. If LeBron and any major free agent goes to LA then they won't have room to sign Kawhi next summer without doing so in a trade.

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    The Spurs should have traded him on draft night before his trade value hits rock bottom.
    He Will not sit out a year, after playing some games his value will be higher than today.

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    Absolutely. If LeBron and any major free agent goes to LA then they won't have room to sign Kawhi next summer without doing so in a trade.

    They could if he takes a considerable paycut, which it sounds like he would be willing to do since he reportedly doesn't care about the Supermax at all. Me thinks he's going to be a Laker either way next season, no matter how much he's making.

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    Neither are that good tbqh
    I think Ingram has a higher ceiling than Brown, tbqh. Durability is only concern.

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    I agree with the current spurs strategy regarding zero tolerance about trading Kawhi to the Lakers, or even to another western conference team. Kawhi and the lakers.

    Even so, I'm not as optimistic as some about the chance that the lakers will eat up their cap space on others and that Kawhi will be left with having to sign with someone else, thus raising his potential trade value.

    Ok, lets assume (which I think is growing increasingly likely) that PG and CP3 will not move to the lakers.

    If the lakers don't look compe ive next year (i.e., have another superstar to help lebron), I think the odds are low that Lebron goes to LA, but as a tie breaker between LA and cleveland, the Lakers are better just because of the cap space and the future there is better. Neither Cleveland nor the Lakers as constructed challenge for a championship in 2019 by adding only lebron, so they are both a wash in that regard.

    However, the Lakers have the cap space to attract a free agent, and Lebron knows Kawhi is serious about going in 2019; so, between Cleveland and the Lakers, if I'm lebron, I chose the Lakers.

    Now, Lebron is not limited to those two teams. He could possibly work something with Philly. I would say that is clearly the superior option if I'm lebron and I want a chance to win a championship in 2019 and beyond.

    So, the two most likely scenarios for LA this summer are 1) whiff on all including lebron, in which case they have cap space in 2019 for kawhi, or 2) land only lebron, which again leaves them space for kawhi next year. Both of these scenarios make kawhi's trade value weak even at the trade deadline, because kawhi has the ability to move to LA salary wise.

    We will have to see how things land for LA; if they somehow do get 2 superstar free agents, then everything changes, kawhi probably has to re-think his demands, and the spurs get more value.

    Regardless, I don't think we get better value by trading him now, so might as well roll the dice and wait this out.

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