Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[exstatic]

Fultz and Murray are close friends...

Just IMO horrible fit because neither can shoot and I dunno if they can play together on the floor..

But you do have to take him and have Chip do his thing..

Fultz was a 40% shooter from 3 in college on 5 attempts per game. Give him a few weeks with Chip.

[sasaint]

Perhaps the Spurs have decided that Kawhi will have to play one more year with them and if he does walk then they will go after Tobias Harris or Klay Thompson as a FA in 2019.

As a fan, I seriously hope not. I really don't want to have Kawhi as a lame duck Spur.

[sasaint]

He doesn't take basketball seriously anymore.

Lots to smile about. Life on Mars.

[rascal]

Because the Lakers only real shot to form a LeBron/PG13/Leonard trio is to have the Spurs trade Kawhi there in the next two or three weeks. If they sign PG13 + James it forces them to make a difficult decision on how they clear the last few million of capspace needed for those two. They have $61 million in capspace right now but would need $66 million to sign those two. The only assets they could use to move to that $66 million would be Ingram, Ball, or Deng. Everyone else would either be renounced (Randle) or doesn't make enough to salary dump (Kuzma, Hart). To move Deng they have to attach Ball or Ingram most likely. Maybe they get away doing it with only Kuzma attached, but Deng's contract is pretty ugly so I doubt it. They can't stretch Deng if they want to preserve capspace for Leonard, since the cap hit for Deng's stretched salary eats another $30 million off what Kawhi could be paid.

Even in the best case I can't see them holding onto that max salary slot. LeBron is about winning now and I expect he would not sign there if Magic wants to tie up nearly 1/3 of the payroll in unproductive capspace that isn't going to hit a jumpshot or stop a guy in transition for a year. I can't imagine someone his age at the tail end of his prime is going to be ok throwing a season of le contention away when the Lakers would be very strong candidates to sign Cousins, Capella, or DeAndre with the capspace they could open up this summer (on top of what they'd have to offer LeBron + PG13) by using Ball to get rid of Deng's contract. Then they could still hold onto Ingram and Kuzma also.

You take that Lakers superteam option off the table and Philly and Boston probably aren't concerned he leaves a stacked le contender to go be a one man show on the Clippers next summer. Then you might actually get a decent offer from each team. And you probably get a great offer from both teams if LeBron chooses Philly.

Worst case LeBron stays in Cleveland and the Lakers remain a viable option for signing Kawhi next summer, and we're back where we were draft night. No reason to rush things when the situation now is the same as the worst case trade market in two or three weeks.

Don't trade him to the Lakers. He should have been traded on draft night before he goes on saying he is going to the Lakers next summer no matter what. Should have moved him to Philadelphia on draft night as they were interested. Next year he will just leave and the Spurs get nothing. They could have gotten Bridges(Phil was not high on Bridges)and another player for Leonard.

[objective]

Per Bryan Colangelo's wife, the problem with Fultz was mental/emotional as well, something about the relationship between his mother and his trainer/shooting coach, the one who was responsible for breaking his shot over the summer.

Exactly.

Don't the Spurs have enough problems with childlike players who have 'Uncle' issues costing them entire seasons?

[objective]

Don't trade him to the Lakers. He should have been traded on draft night before he goes on saying he is going to the Lakers next summer no matter what. Should have moved him to Philadelphia on draft night as they were interested. Next year he will just leave and the Spurs get nothing.

Except 2 days before the draft he already put it out there through Woj that he was only signing with the Lakers. That card was played.

[BatManu20]

Perhaps the Spurs have decided that Kawhi will have to play one more year with them and if he does walk then they will go after Tobias Harris or Klay Thompson as a FA in 2019.

Doubtful. If Spurs can’t come to some sort of an agreement with Kawhi in the coming weeks/months, they’re going to trade him imo. The tension in the locker room would be awful and the players would likely want him gone. And you have to get SOMETHING for him. You just do.

[gambit1990]

i don't ever remember seeing kawhi's jordans on this site. they came out a couple months ago, they're sick:



i would've bought them asap if i had known about them. i'd cop a pair but they're running $800 now.

[rascal]

Except 2 days before the draft he already put it out there through Woj that he was only signing with the Lakers. That card was played.

Teams were still interested in Leonard. Next year there won't be any interest, he is gone and no trade.

[picnroll]

At this point it’s all very obvious what will happen. Spurs will try to convince Leonard to sign a long term deal. If that doesn’t happen, and it’s unlikely it will, they’ll trade him to the team in the East that makes the best offer which will likely be Philly or Boston. Neither can entirely sleep on Leonard for fear the other team can talk him into a long term deal particularly if LA bombs out in free agency. First choice would be Tatum but doubtful Boston would trade him, maybe if Leonard was a guaranteed signing. Short of Tatum I’d go for Fultz and whatever else can be pried from Philly, Saric, Bolden, Miami pick, etc. This isn’t a tragedy because even with Leonard Spurs aren’t le contenders. Time to rebuild.

[BatManu20]

[Spurs4#5]

Doubtful. If Spurs can’t come to some sort of an agreement with Kawhi in the coming weeks/months, they’re going to trade him imo. The tension in the locker room would be awful and the players would likely want him gone. And you have to get SOMETHING for him. You just do.

Agreed. Plus you don’t want to reward that type of behavior with new people coming in. They see you bow down for person and they expect you to bow down for them. It’s a very slippery slope to losing control over your players

[objective]

Teams were still interested in Leonard. Next year there won't be any interest, he is gone and no trade.

Fact is days before the draft Woj and Shelburne did an ESPN story about telling teams that he would only sign with Lakers. His trade value was already murdered by Kawhi and his group.

He can be gone. But the franchise should have some self respect. I would be thrilled if they sit him all year, going to cost him tens of millions.

[sasaint]

Doubtful. If Spurs can’t come to some sort of an agreement with Kawhi in the coming weeks/months, they’re going to trade him imo. The tension in the locker room would be awful and the players would likely want him gone. And you have to get SOMETHING for him. You just do.

I really don't expect Kawhi to be a Spur at season's start. I don't think PATFO could bear up to the tension in the locker room.

[cd021]

I think Ingram has a higher ceiling than Brown, tbqh. Durability is only concern.

No chance that's true IMO. I think Ingram is highly overrated and he seems to be polarizing with people around the league. The Spurs may not even want him.

[cd021]

Fultz was a 40% shooter from 3 in college on 5 attempts per game. Give him a few weeks with Chip.

He was one of the most productive college players in that season that he came out; 23.5 ppg, 47 FG%, 40% 3pt, 6 rpg, 6 apg.

I would take the risk on him if the 76'ers offer him up.

[BillMc]

At this point it’s all very obvious what will happen. Spurs will try to convince Leonard to sign a long term deal. If that doesn’t happen, and it’s unlikely it will, they’ll trade him to the team in the East that makes the best offer which will likely be Philly or Boston. Neither can entirely sleep on Leonard for fear the other team can talk him into a long term deal particularly if LA bombs out in free agency. First choice would be Tatum but doubtful Boston would trade him, maybe if Leonard was a guaranteed signing. Short of Tatum I’d go for Fultz and whatever else can be pried from Philly, Saric, Bolden, Miami pick, etc. This isn’t a tragedy because even with Leonard Spurs aren’t le contenders. Time to rebuild.

Agreed with everything you said until "even with Leonard Spurs aren't le contenders." I think they are with a healthy, onboard Leonard, especially with the Chris Paul issue maybe sinking Houston. Of course, the Warriors are and should be heavily favored over a Kawhi Spurs team. But nobody else in the league would be except maybe Houston. East teams are too young and its still the East. Spurs would be definite contenders. Good chance of being 2nd best team in the league.

Sadly, I think we'll never know as we're either going to trade Leonard or get a petulant, half-hearted KL who is forced to come back for 1 more year. And even then his "injury" could return.

[palangi]

Just trade him to the Lakers for their first rounder next year, ingram, kuzma, and Wagner

[BackHome]

And we all thought Rodman was crazy man Kawhi uncle Fester is costing Kawhi major bling. I am down with the Spur
screwing the Flakers you know Magic and Uncle Fester we’re talking all year long. Screw them we ship his ass to the East even a team like Philly or Boston who are close to a ring would give us something - I think Boston has like 3 first round potential lottery picks.

[sasaint]

Agreed with everything you said until "even with Leonard Spurs aren't le contenders." I think they are with a healthy, onboard Leonard, especially with the Chris Paul issue maybe sinking Houston. Of course, the Warriors are and should be heavily favored over a Kawhi Spurs team. But nobody else in the league would be except maybe Houston. East teams are too young and its still the East. Spurs would be definite contenders. Good chance of being 2nd best team in the league.

Sadly, I think we'll never know as we're either going to trade Leonard or get a petulant, half-hearted KL who is forced to come back for 1 more year. And even then his "injury" could return.

I have a hard time believing that PATFO thinks that is the best thing for the health of the franchise. I believe that is their first priority. As a fan, I would be about as half-hearted as Kawhi about the Spurs if he were to be a lame duck for a year.

I think you are underestimating the East. Boston grew up a year without a couple of guys that everybody expected to be their core players. And Ainge is likely to make a big play or two this offseason. It is early yet.

Philly is young, but probably on the verge of making a big move or two, also - even if they don't acquire Kawhi. They are a LeBron signing and a completely healthy Embiid away from a possible le.

The Spurs are nothing more than question marks from top to bottom of their roster. Even with last year's rock, LMA, there is some speculation that if Kawhi is gone, LMA might be as well.

[BatManu20]

[BillMc]

I have a hard time believing that PATFO thinks that is the best thing for the health of the franchise. I believe that is their first priority. As a fan, I would be about as half-hearted as Kawhi about the Spurs if he were to be a lame duck for a year.

I think you are underestimating the East. Boston grew up a year without a couple of guys that everybody expected to be their core players. And Ainge is likely to make a big play or two this offseason. It is early yet.

Philly is young, but probably on the verge of making a big move or two, also - even if they don't acquire Kawhi. They are a LeBron signing and a completely healthy Embiid away from a possible le.

The Spurs are nothing more than question marks from top to bottom of their roster. Even with last year's rock, LMA, there is some speculation that if Kawhi is gone, LMA might be as well.

The scenario is if Kawhi were here and engaged. In which case we definitely would be a contender. There is always a lot of "grass is greener" mentality on ST, which underestimates our team and tends to ignore the flaws and problems in other teams. Those East teams lost to the worst Cavs team since LeBron returned, a team the Spurs would have had a good chance against even without Kawhi and would have been heavily favored with him. Spurs had a real shot at the 3rd seed in the West even without Kawhi. Rudy Gay doesn't get injured and I think they get it.

But its all moot as I would be shocked if we keep KL.

[ace3g]

[BackHome]

For Philly or Boston to have a chance next year they need Kawhi or Lebron. I don’t buy Kawhi misses LA he spent a lot of time in New York and I believe Uncle Fester lives in the East Cost so Work out a deal or another year where the following happens.

1. You fake injury Spurs see you in court
2. You tear your ACL/MCL/Achilles tendon
3. You don’t play so no shoe deals or endorsements
4. Your throwing millions of dollars down the drain.

[Play Boban]

low iq fans obsessing over some dudes overpriced shoes