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    toot little, too late. They elected Trash, now off


    Family separation: Evangelicals add their voices to opposition

    For many white Evangelicals,

    the administration’s zero-tolerance approach to asylum-seekers is putting their support for President Trump

    in conflict with their reverence for the sanc y of families.



    https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justic...src=newsletter

    Trash cheated on his wives, serial divorcer, but the evies voted for him en masse

    NOW they think he's anti-family?

    G M A F B

    Evangelicals are, along with their so-called "elite wealthy" grifter pastors, complete ing frauds, Pharisees


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    Weird how my c*nt got censored.
    Just for s and giggles, I’ll try this again. Aimed at no particular person

    A very bad 4-letter word that starts with c followeth

    ****
    Wow, good job ST.
    In fairness, let me try reposting another version

    That **** is from a hole country and she doesn’t speaka da english too good and then she shoved an anchor baby out her dry used up snatch. She gets a pass.
    Isn’t that amazing?
    Quotable, but not postable . Happened so quickly.
    Why can your account post ****?
    So, you can call people a cvnt, if you have the “correct” opinions.

    Nice job ST.
    Ok, that worked.

    Admins — get to work on another filter
    And, by the way, don’t be s
    Just caught up on that. What kind of narcissist thinks the admins here would place a word filter specifically on them for partisan reasons? That's the most pathetic paranoid meltdown i think I've ever seen here.

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    Are you saying that hundreds of thousands of people illegally crossing the border who are APPREHENDED is ok? What about those probably hundreds of thousands who AREN'T apprehended? And how many more would TRY to cross illegally if hundreds of thousands were not apprehended?

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    The open borders straw man again.

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    I wonder if some of you will have the same opinion when you see your property taxes (or rent) go higher and higher as more and more is needed to fund the education of children illegally crossing the border.

    The average effective property tax rate in the Lone Star state is 1.94% (46th worse in the US) of a home's value. On a median home value, as of August 2015 at $200,000, this equates to $3,880. For the average home property assessed value in Texas, the tax average is $4,337. That (to me) is outrageous - even though our FL homes cost more, eventually the house is paid for but property taxes NEVER end.

    And there's a whopping 10% cap increase in assessment per year (compared to 3% here is FL).

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    I wonder if some of you will have the same opinion when you see your property taxes (or rent) go higher and higher as more and more is needed to fund the education of children illegally crossing the border.

    The average effective property tax rate in the Lone Star state is 1.94% (46th worse in the US) of a home's value. On a median home value, as of August 2015 at $200,000, this equates to $3,880. For the average home property assessed value in Texas, the tax average is $4,337. That (to me) is outrageous - even though our FL homes cost more, eventually the house is paid for but property taxes NEVER end.

    And there's a whopping 10% cap increase in assessment per year (compared to 3% here is FL).
    Eh, Texas ranks 36th in per student spending. Probably want to lower that.

    I'm completely fine with having my property taxes going to educating them.

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    I wonder if some of you will have the same opinion when you see your property taxes (or rent) go higher and higher as more and more is needed to fund the education of children illegally crossing the border.

    The average effective property tax rate in the Lone Star state is 1.94% (46th worse in the US) of a home's value. On a median home value, as of August 2015 at $200,000, this equates to $3,880. For the average home property assessed value in Texas, the tax average is $4,337. That (to me) is outrageous - even though our FL homes cost more, eventually the house is paid for but property taxes NEVER end.

    And there's a whopping 10% cap increase in assessment per year (compared to 3% here is FL).
    In Texas we raise property taxes to build bigger football stadiums.

    A few extra kids in a classroom won't move anyone's needle no matter how much you want to pretend it will

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    So, you can call people a cvnt, if you have the “correct” opinions.

    Nice job ST.
    conservative persecution complex

    repeating trend for darrin

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9376850

    always so asshurt

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    Eh, Texas ranks 36th in per student spending. Probably want to lower that.

    I'm completely fine with having my property taxes going to educating them.
    Texas ranks 38th in cost of living so that 36th in education spending is proportionally correct.

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    "Christian" TV host defends child concentration camps, calls kids "unclean" "debased" "god-haters"

    guest host Chris McDonald .... insisting that the practice of breaking up families “is not America’s fault,

    it’s [the immigrant’s] fault …

    If you are here illegally, guess what?

    You’re family is at risk of being broken up because that is what happens in a law-abiding society.”

    ... a high-level border patrol agent recently who allegedly told her that the people who are crossing the border illegally are the dregs of society.

    “Rape after rape after rape,” Valentine said.

    “Children below 10 years old engaging in sexual activity.

    All kinds of sin and disgrace and darkness;

    the pit of the pits.

    So we’re not getting the top-of-the-line echelon people coming over this border,

    we’re getting criminals.

    I mean, total criminals that are so debased and their minds are just gone.

    They’re unclean,

    they’re murderers,

    they’re treacherous,

    they’re God-haters.”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/21/1774163/--Christian-TV-host-defends-child-concentration-camps-calls-kids-unclean-debased-god-haters?detail=emaildkre


    All y'all sanctimonious Bible humpers speak from "both sides" of your mouths,

    so-called "loving" Christ out of one side,

    and
    out of the other side, ethnic cleansing, just like Christ would do.



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    The Immigration Law No One Is Talking About

    The Refugee Convention and spelled out the protections of all refugees and asylum seekers regardless of place of origin or their story.
    The United States was not a signatory of the 1951 agreement.


    In 1968 the expanded Refugee Convention was ratified and signed by the United States along with 144 other nations.

    The Convention is not a self executing treaty which means each signatory was required to pass appropriate laws for compliance.

    The United States codified the 1967 Protocol Articles 1-34 into our domestic laws by updating existing statutes or passing new ones.

    For 50 years the Protocol has governed the treatment of refugees and asylum seekers by every President until Donald Trump.

    Article 1 defines refugee in a basic way

    A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.


    Article 31is quite long and I encourage you to read it. While it says refugee the rules also cover asylum seekers and covers who qualifies and their basic treatment. The only real dis-qualifier is being guilty of a serious crime or being engaged in nefarious acts.

    Article 33
    covers asylum seekers and again is quite detailed not only concerning the rights of the refugee/asylum seekers and how they are to be handled.

    The main dos and don’ts outlining the responsibility fo the signatories regarding asylum seekers referred to as Aliens.

    • Aliens only have to be on US soil, they are not required to come thru a port of entry.
    • Aliens cannot be charged with the crime of illegal entry.
    • Aliens have one year to apply for asylum
    • Aliens must provide proof of substantial danger requiring asylum
    • Family units must be kept together and adjudicated as a single application
    • Aliens must be granted access to legal counsel and the courts
    • Aliens may be finger printed and photographed for identification
    • Aliens have the right to appeal court decisions within 30 days
    • If asylum denied the alien can not be returned to country they fled a neutral safe third country must be found.
    • The asylum process should take no more than 180 days after alien is positively identified and the filing for asylum
    • There can be no bias in determining asylum Any laws passed regarding refugees and asylum seekers must be in compliance with this agreement.
    • Aliens religious beliefs must be honored items like rosaries can not be confiscated.

    Violations cons ute human rights violations at a minimum.

    Separating parents and children

    is considered terrorism,

    add to it kidnapping,

    discrimination based on ethnicity and

    illegal imprisonment cons ute a crime against humanity.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/21/1774063/-The-Immigration-Law-No-One-Is-Talking-About?detail=emaildkre




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    Why won’t the U.S. ratify the U.N.’s child rights treaty?

    Twenty five years ago this week, 190 member countries of United Nations passed the Convention on the Rights of the Child, a landmark agreement that stands as one of the most ratified human rights treaties in history.

    The convention supports

    protections for children from

    forced labor,
    child marriage,
    deprivation of a legal iden y, and
    grants both able-bodied and disabled children the right to
    health care, education, and freedom of expression.


    It also has safeguards for parents to take care of their children, including parental leave.
    (not in USA!)

    Only three U.N. countries have not ratified the CRC: Somalia, South Sudan, and…the United States.

    a number of Republican senators, claiming concerns about U.S. sovereignty, have consistently opposed ratification.. ( of course )

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.b155eb46e934

    There are no "inalienable rights" other than those granted and defended by society.

    Repug family values, excludes children, just like Ayn Rand did from all her bull books.




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    In Texas we raise property taxes to build bigger football stadiums.

    A few extra kids in a classroom won't move anyone's needle no matter how much you want to pretend it will
    few extra - ok - if you say so. Even with a few extra, wonder what 3 times what 9K per classroom that could be going to transportation, health, or God forbid, your own (I don't mean you personally) children would do. I'm very happy with my property taxes - are you?

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    few extra - ok - if you say so. Even with a few extra, wonder what 3 times what 9K per classroom that could be going to transportation, health, or God forbid, your own (I don't mean you personally) children would do. I'm very happy with my property taxes - are you?
    You're acting like their parents or guardians don't pay any state or local taxes at all.

    God forbid.

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    So I talked to board patrol agent tonight. The last two weeks nothing in Yuma. The kids separation was working. Before 549 a week

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    Fox News host Jesse Watters says American voters won’t care about children in cages: ‘It’s not like gas prices healthcare or jobs’

    “The Democrats think they can run on child migrants

    but I don’t think it’s necessarily move votes,

    because it doesn’t necessarily affect the average citizen,” he said.

    “Yes, it’s sad. It tugs at your heart strings, has a heart?

    but it’s not like gas prices, Trash gas prices UP!

    it’s not like taking away your healthcare, Trash taking away health care from Ms!

    it’s not like jobs.” Trash trade war killing 100Ks of jobs!

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/fox...e+Raw+Story%29

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    So I talked to board patrol agent tonight. The last two weeks nothing in Yuma. The kids separation was working. Before 549 a week
    Ha. The who crowed and thought he made the sun rise

    It's true that interdictions are strikingly low -- at levels not seen since the 1970s. They're a lot lower just since 2000.

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    the total absence ITT of complaints about India, China and Canada means something. at the very least it means that posters hate Mexico more than Asians for some reason.



    In 2015, the top country of origin for new immigrants coming into the U.S. was India, with 110,000 people, followed by Mexico (109,000), China (90,000) and Canada (35,000).
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...-s-immigrants/

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    We don't share a border with Asia.

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    most immigrants don't walk across a border, silly

    they mostly arrive on airplanes. over two thirds of visa overstays aren't from Mexico and Central America.

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    We don't share a border with Asia.
    Chris has never heard of air travel.

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    had no snappy comeback, he'll be back.

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    are asylum seekers a greater public safety risk than meth and heroin?

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    meth is having a major resurgence, not made in USA in explosive labs, but with cheap meth smuggled in from MX

    Repugs up everything they touch. Intentional "reverse Midas"
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