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    If it was explicitly clear that Philly getting Leonard would mean they get LeBeon then the stage is set for the Spurs to realize something approximating actual value.

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    It doesn't make sense to trade for Kawhi without moving Tatum or Hayward. How many starting SFs do they need? They have a glut of players.
    Trade them for a big

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    You would think that, but why the dumb drama about the injury diagnosis, which as of now hasn't required actual surgery.

    Whatever conversations that there have been about the supermax have been going on for some time.

    LeBron and Leonard are tied somehow or someway..it’s a drama ploy from the LeBron saga..LA was the first smokescreen now we hear Philly?? People are going nuts right now trying to figure out what’s happening but tbh nobody knows.

    If Leonard’s camp truly just wants the SuperMax it gets offered, which cracks the door for LeBron again..you do it. Spurs gotta ask if it means anything..Maybe they have or haven’t.

    LeBron is seeing and judging the narratives being wrote if he decides where he goes..not a lot of excitement if he went to LA or Philly..If he went to Spurs and Kawhi kissed and made up with PATFO the media wouldn’t know what to do..

    I still think Houston is in play too..but Cavs ONLY became a fall back once Leonard wasn’t a shoe in for LA which is interesting..

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    Except for when he tried to trade a ton of picks for Winslow amazing how when someone gets saved from themselves how the narrative can change.
    Great point and his picks were ty prior to Jaylen and Tatum... Wow what a genius he drafted two good prospects with the 3rd pick overall in back2back years what a freaking genius.

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    Lots of smoke that there is major rift between the front office and Leonard, not just a negotiating ploy.

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    Great point and his picks were ty prior to Jaylen and Tatum... Wow what a genius he drafted two good prospects with the 3rd pick overall in back2back years what a freaking genius.
    The picks are crapshoots. Stealing the picks from Billy ing King was smart as , if not particularly hard. What's impressive is he's still sitting on a stack of picks.

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    Great point and his picks were ty prior to Jaylen and Tatum... Wow what a genius he drafted two good prospects with the 3rd pick overall in back2back years what a freaking genius.
    Yeah Stevens doesn’t have any talent....

    Pop has 1 All Star and a gimp.

    Stevens has 2 Top 3 picks, 3 Close to Max players (Horford, Irving, Hayward)

    Stevens is still a great top 3 coach if not the best but don’t come at me he’s doing things with less talk lol

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    The picks are crapshoots. Stealing the picks from Billy ing King was smart as , if not particularly hard. What's impressive is he's still sitting on a stack of picks.
    Because he was turned down for Winslow. Lucky him. He’s done great with his stuff after that though, just lucky he was saved from himself.

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    I don't see Boston dealing Tatum OR Gordon Hayward. Don't see them trading Hayward one year after signing him and after that terrible injury. Plus he's Boston's best player.

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    Philadelphia 76ers get: Kawhi Leonard, Patty Mills

    San Antonio Spurs get: Markelle Fultz, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Jerryd Bayless, Miami Heat's 2021 first-round pick

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    Supposedly Hayward had complications with his recovery, needing that recent surgery to remove some screws when at the time of the first surgery there was speculation that he'd be ready by the playoffs

    If he's not 100% by camp, maybe Ainge is willing to move him.

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    Philadelphia 76ers get: Kawhi Leonard, Patty Mills

    San Antonio Spurs get: Markelle Fultz, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Jerryd Bayless, Miami Heat's 2021 first-round pick
    I don’t know why people keep throwing Bayless in? I mean, I’m fine if that is the deal, but PHI will have some cap space so salaries don’t have to match perfectly and SA shouldn’t need to take Bayless to make the deal work and would be nice not to have to.

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    It doesn't make sense to trade for Kawhi without moving Tatum or Hayward. How many starting SFs do they need? They have a glut of players.
    I don't want Hayward at all. But if they give up Tatum the only thing that could top that would be Philly offering Simmons.

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    Send him to golden state. Troll the whole league

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    If it was explicitly clear that Philly getting Leonard would mean they get LeBeon then the stage is set for the Spurs to realize something approximating actual value.
    Simmons is the only player who would be actual value. the Spurs would actually win the trade if that was the offer while we're talking pipe dreams.

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    Why the bell isn’t it Simmons instead of Fultz? That makes no damn sense.

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    Supposedly Hayward had complications with his recovery, needing that recent surgery to remove some screws when at the time of the first surgery there was speculation that he'd be ready by the playoffs

    If he's not 100% by camp, maybe Ainge is willing to move him.
    A 28YO SF coming off a possibly botched surgery. Where do I sign?

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    LeBron and Leonard are tied somehow or someway..it’s a drama ploy from the LeBron saga..LA was the first smokescreen now we hear Philly?? People are going nuts right now trying to figure out what’s happening but tbh nobody knows.

    If Leonard’s camp truly just wants the SuperMax it gets offered, which cracks the door for LeBron again..you do it. Spurs gotta ask if it means anything..Maybe they have or haven’t.

    LeBron is seeing and judging the narratives being wrote if he decides where he goes..not a lot of excitement if he went to LA or Philly..If he went to Spurs and Kawhi kissed and made up with PATFO the media wouldn’t know what to do..

    I still think Houston is in play too..but Cavs ONLY became a fall back once Leonard wasn’t a shoe in for LA which is interesting..
    Houston is not in play. Cleveland is not taking Ryan Anderson's contract to be paying through the nose in both payroll and luxury tax to send LeBron to Houston. Same reason the Spurs aren't in play for LeBron even if Leonard decides he's staying tonight. No way Cleveland is taking Gasol's contract. It's gotta be LA or Philly. I can't possibly see him staying in Cleveland.

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    That's the cover story.

    Yes, he's working on his shot and has been.

    But camp doesn't open for 3 months and he can't risk taking 5 days against mostly g-league caliber players in exhibition settings? Exactly what kind of catastrophic result are they so afraid of? What if he actually shot well and catapulted his value up and started great buzz going into next year?

    But apparently the danger to his mind is so incredible that it out weighs the benefits of him playing well.
    Maybe they want to hold him out because they're worried about injury screwing up potential trades? And since they can't say that there's a trade being structured around him, go with this as a cover story?

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    Houston is not in play. Cleveland is not taking Ryan Anderson's contract to be paying through the nose in both payroll and luxury tax to send LeBron to Houston. Same reason the Spurs aren't in play for LeBron even if Leonard decides he's staying tonight. No way Cleveland is taking Gasol's contract. It's gotta be LA or Philly. I can't possibly see him staying in Cleveland.

    Cleveland wasn’t in play from the jump...until Kawhi to LA died. That’s odd to me because I would’nt have thought Leonard would dictate where LeBron went...unless it was to the Spurs



    Edit: Only got this idea when SAS mentioned how this Kawhi-Spurs drama hurts the Spurs big picture but also killed their chance at Lebron. Said that “we didn’t know if they were a serious option or not and that’s something we haven’t talked about”
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    What happened with Kawaii, is he being traded?

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    A 28YO SF coming off a possibly botched surgery. Where do I sign?
    Well, he can be salary filler.


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    Because he was turned down for Winslow. Lucky him. He’s done great with his stuff after that though, just lucky he was saved from himself.
    Except maxing Hayward, Arguably Top 30

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    I didn't realize the Orlando Magic have the 3rd best odds of getting Kawhi Leonard.

    I have mentioned before I wouldn't mind getting Aaron Gordon in return. Of course I'd want another player in return and/or a draft pick.

    I don't see it happening, but thought it was strange that they have the 3rd best odds.

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    Houston is not in play. Cleveland is not taking Ryan Anderson's contract to be paying through the nose in both payroll and luxury tax to send LeBron to Houston. Same reason the Spurs aren't in play for LeBron even if Leonard decides he's staying tonight. No way Cleveland is taking Gasol's contract. It's gotta be LA or Philly. I can't possibly see him staying in Cleveland.
    Actually I have heard the Spurs are willing to go over the cap it means getting LeBron.

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