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    I'm curious what everyone thinks. I think he owes alot to the Spurs.

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    Stop

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    Whose alt is this?

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    wgaf about him and his future in LA

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    He’d be playing in China tbh. Maybe in jail after stealing shoes though tbh......

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    What system? What year is this?

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    yes. his development might not have been the same though

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    He would not without chip
    And spurs work ethic

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    Spurs allowed him to be introverted/silent/etc, with another team he might have had this mental breakdown earlier

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    Mfs still mad haha

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    You have to give him credit for his work ethic but if he was drafted by any other team he doesn't end up the player that he would become. A lot of coaches would have been lazy to pencil him in as a Tony Allen type of player and not try to develop his offensive game.

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    He had qualiyies but also flaws...otherwise nthere would have been no explanation on why multiple teams passed him till n° 15...expecially after being targeted as one of the best players in most of the mock drafts just days before the draft.
    That means that a lot of teams scouted him deeply and went to the conclusion that his flaws were evident and probably too difficult to fix.
    That means that a lot of teams have considered him not worth of spending time on his development...
    This is obviious if you consider the price we had to pay for him, that has been high just because of sentimental reasons (Hill was Pop favourite) but not because of real player value reasons...and at the time the trade has been seen as legitimate by everyone (remember the Pacers had to add the rights of an early second draft choice - we called Bertans - and the rights of Lorbek, that was considered a good part of the trade, for having Hill).
    I can tell you I don't like the players at ude of today "what have you done for me lately..."...Kiwi and his staff should value the dedication the team has had for his development...obviously he was a good materia and had the right will to succeed, but no way for him to succeed at this level if not for the confidence and nurturing the team had in and for him. EWe're talking about a 15th draft choice becaming a top three player in the league.
    And not only this.
    The dedication to the player has been evidenced by the behavior of the whole organization in his favor...
    They elected him as the franchise when one of the best players ever was still playing in the same team...and that same player, in a typical spurs class act, shared this process of nomination him the new face of the franchise.
    All the Spurs did has been make of him a real star and develop him as a player and as a man, in the best possible path a human being can have...

    That situation, in his entire nature, is very, very peculiar...and the trying of his side to behave like the organization didn't care enough of him is childish...so childish that can not be considered natural, but obviously suspected of being the fruit of a bad advice. As has been his behavior in refusing to clarify publicly his position health wise, for helth could have been the only reason he was not playing for practically the whole season, and we are talking of a play ofs season.
    And I don't even wanna talk about the word "betrayed" that has filtered from his environment...
    That's not only incredible and unbelievable if referred to the Spurs organization, but also a lame try to defense in advance, 'cause the whole behavior potentially suggested to him by his "group" is more than easily susceptible to be called a a betrayal and fruit of a fraud...like the last clue (the stupid, time wise, advise from the Lakers ownership to all the franchise to avoid tampering behaviors...like if tampering previously exercised wasn't tampering).

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    Nope

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    Hah, probably better!

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    I'm curious what everyone thinks. I think he owes alot to the Spurs.
    Are you RC? Or Kevin Durant?

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    What system? What year is this?

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    Some of you dudes sound bitter; if the dude leaves that’s his biz! Spurs will go on......

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    He will probably be MVP next year no matter which team he goes to, which is why I want him back.

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    Yes he would be the same. He puts in the work. That's why he has improved so much.

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    No one has a crystal ball. Both organization and player can thank each other. That is all.

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    Really doubt it. He was in a team with three future Hall-of-Famers. Whoever goes into the Spurs has a load of shoulders on their hands. Leonard wanted to be great, which is good for him, but I doubt he'd be where he is now without being surrounded by a Hall-of-Fame coach and a spectacular cast (especially that 2014 team).

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    Really doubt it. He was in a team with three future Hall-of-Famers. Whoever goes into the Spurs has a load of shoulders on their hands. Leonard wanted to be great, which is good for him, but I doubt he'd be where he is now without being surrounded by a Hall-of-Fame coach and a spectacular cast (especially that 2014 team).
    Danny Green, Kyle Anderson, Richard Jefferson, SJax...Many wings had Pop as coach and the Big3 as teammates.

    I wonder why any of those guys weren't MVP candidates...

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    Chip and det system doing a lot for Fathead

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    He would not without chip
    And spurs work ethic
    Well, Chip is with Kyle Anderson and DJ Murray too. I wonder why they can't shoot yet...

    What's about Kawhi's work ethic? Or his talent? I guess you can work 24/7 and won't play like him.

    Kawhi's talent is so underrated by most Spurs' fans...I wonder why they are mad at him for leaving if they never knew the player they had.

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