Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[eDizzle20]

I would be surprised that if the Spurs do ultimately trade Kawhi it’s after the start of the season. Either he will re-sign and the fences will be mended or he’ll be gone by that point. This organization has consistently stayed away from any potential toxic environment. Which is what it will be if things are not resolved by then. I don’t think the team will proceed into the season with the goal of increasing trade value. With that being said I can’t wait for Kawhi to be grilled regardless of where he is on media day.

[eDizzle20]

I think, or at least hope, that if SA is going to trade him it will be in the next 2 weeks during free agency. If you are going to trade him no real reason to let it drag on to far into things that way you can plan your free agency as well and what you will do.

Unless the offers are so poor that keeping him is the more preferred option, then I can’t see it lingering on too much longer. It will be an extension or trade in the next 10-14 days IMO and has nothing to do with the silence.

+1

[coachmac87]

I've said that I truly believe that any Spurs-Kawhi issue started with the injury and how both sides handled it. You don't have to convince me about that.



Not sure if I just picked Kawhi's side. I like to hear the two points of views. Most fans here are willing to believe only Spurs' version and I'm not comfortable with that...

I tend to think that teams are still too much powerful in a "league of players", I find ironic that most players can't match the power of the organizations.


Jalen Rose never was part of Kawhi's friends. Many guys on media were saying they were close to Kawhi but it wasn't true. You can bet that Jabari Young is too much close to Kawhi's camp than Rose.

Do you even understand what point I’m trying to make? Like you’re again missing the point.

You said Spurs didn’t offer max and thats why he wants out...

I said that’s an assumption on your point and pointed out reasons why. If it was about that we would’ve heard it’s about that.. but it’s not and all we here is about the diagnosis.,or that’s what his camp says as the excuse.

I brought up the Jalen Rose point to point out the BS about “the meeting” being a reason for him wanting out or any of the bs excuse you or his camp made since Dec/Jan when Rose first made everyone aware he wanted out...

Main point of this entire thing. Kawhi checked out waaaay before all this “drama” started etc. and the core of it all was his injury diagnosis...or maybe he just wanted to be in LA?

[baseline bum]

The Philly package is just so meh. I know the Spurs won't get a good return back but:

-Take a chance to see if Fultz recovers from the yips, not to mention also plays the same position as Murray
-B Level Prospect in Saric
-RoCo' terrible contract
-Have to hope the Heat don't get very good in the next 2 years so the 2021 pick is actually top 5

Just not that high on any of those pieces.

Yeah it's not a very good package, but all the other offers are centered around B level prospects too. Brown, Ingram, Saric are pretty much all the same in value IMO.

[DPG21920]

Roco’s deal isn’t bad at all. It’s basically the Danny Green deal but at a time when most players were getting more.

[DPG21920]

As long as Mills is moved in the deal and TP isn’t brought back I’m good with Fultz.

Murray/Fultz/White/Lonnie/Danny and maybe Manu is really solid potential.

[SpursDynasty85]

I think, or at least hope, that if SA is going to trade him it will be in the next 2 weeks during free agency. If you are going to trade him no real reason to let it drag on to far into things that way you can plan your free agency as well and what you will do.

Unless the offers are so poor that keeping him is the more preferred option, then I can’t see it lingering on too much longer. It will be an extension or trade in the next 10-14 days IMO and has nothing to do with the silence.

I agree with a lot of what you said except the silence. Spurs are sure to want to mend fences enough to where Kawhi will at least seek to give Spurs some leverage in trade talks. This might take a while but if Pop and Kawhi can tug at some old heart strings hopefully Leonard will empathize with the Spurs knowing he was their franchise and centerpiece. His silent LALakers trade demand severely hurts the Spurs in trade talks. The least a player and organization with some type of relationship can do is work a trade that benefits both sides. And I believe the Spurs know that the only way they can do this is by talking to Kawhi and not his uncle and agent.

[spursistan]

The silence from Uncle Dennis & crew since the trade request is interesting. I venture to guess that we'll hear from those idiots by way of media leaks sometime this week before Free Agency starts tbh.

They have shot their last bullet, tbh.

Basically, all they have next is to enact another Rehab charade ("oh he suffered a setback ") until he gets traded, but then again we were told he is "100% or close to it" a week ago ..

Spurs should continue calling their bluff. I don't think this career will ever recover if he and his crew keep digging their heels. He is losing money by the minute..

[ernest787]

ringer just posted an article explaining how Philly could get both Kawhi and LBJ. The trade they had for Kawhi was:

-fultz
- Covington
- bayless
- smith
- saric
- Miami pick

I'd probably take that

[DPG21920]

I agree with that I was just saying I don’t think the silence changes the logic of trading him in the next couple weeks so that you can actually have free agency plans yourselves vs building around Kawhi then trading him later.

[spurraider21]

covington's deal is great tbh

[exstatic]

ringer just posted an article explaining how Philly could get both Kawhi and LBJ. The trade they had for Kawhi was:

-fultz
- Covington
- bayless
- smith
- saric
- Miami pick

I'd probably take that

Who the is Smith? There isn't one on Philly's roster, and if they're talking about JR, that's a deal breaker. Spurs would never put up with his stupid .

[DPG21920]

Who the is Smith? There isn't one on Philly's roster, and if they're talking about JR, that's a deal breaker. Spurs would never put up with his stupid .

Zhaire Smith - they just drafted him.

[Spurs da champs]

Who the is Smith? There isn't one on Philly's roster, and if they're talking about JR, that's a deal breaker. Spurs would never put up with his stupid .

Zhaire Smith, 76ers just drafted him.

[Spurs da champs]

Zhaire is a wing at only 6'4?

[rasuo214]

Kawhi's group has gone silent since the meeting with Pop. Several in the media mentioned it was a good meeting and it has been mentioned that Kawhi still respects Pop. A big issue has been Kawhi's group isolating Kawhi from the team (most importantly Pop). So we'll see what happens once free agency starts. I personally think one of the main things working against the Spurs and Kawhi mending things is that Pop isn't expected to be coaching much longer.

[exstatic]

Zhaire Smith, 76ers just drafted him.

Ah, thanks. That's why he didn't show on their roster.

[ernest787]

Yeah. There were reports the Spurs were potentially interested in him as well.

That trade immediately gives the Spurs a bunch of assets and I think keeps them as a PO team so they aren't doing a full rebuild. Also makes Patty expendable which likely brings back another asset.

[SpursDynasty85]

Kawhi's group has gone silent since the meeting with Pop. Several in the media mentioned it was a good meeting and it has been mentioned that Kawhi still respects Pop. A big issue has been Kawhi's group isolating Kawhi from the team (most importantly Pop). So we'll see what happens once free agency starts. I personally think one of the main things working against the Spurs and Kawhi mending things is that Pop isn't expected to be coaching much longer.

So far I have only heard two sources from the meeting. Jabari's tweet and Stephen A Smith's. Both seemed to contradict each other in some ways. The silence to the media, does bode well because it likely signals them playing ball with the Spurs (doing things behind closed doors).

The Spurs may be trying to convince them to sign an extension but playout at least a portion of the year or fully with them and work on a trade for him next year. The Spurs giving out the loyalty contracts especially the one like Gasol is meant to give them the reputation of sticking to their word. They do have the leverage of having him for at least one more year.

[exstatic]

Zhaire is a wing at only 6'4?

The Spurs terminology lists two 'posts' (bigs), two 'wings' (SG/SF), and a lead (point) guard. For most plays, the two wings are interchangeable. I remember a shot that RMJ made against the Suns to win a game a few years ago, and it came out that he and Manu switched their 'routes' on that play.

[exstatic]

So far I have only heard two sources from the meeting. Jabari's tweet and Stephen A Smith's. Both seemed to contradict each other in some ways. The silence to the media, does bode well because it likely signals them playing ball with the Spurs (doing things behind closed doors).

The Spurs may be trying to convince them to sign an extension but playout at least a portion of the year or fully with them and work on a trade for him next year. The Spurs giving out the loyalty contracts especially the one like Gasol is meant to give them the reputation of sticking to their word. They do have the leverage of having him for at least one more year.

My thought is that when Kawhi allegedly said he absolutely wanted out, that started the conversation. I'm guessing that the Spurs said 'no Lakers', and asked for a list of EC teams, and that's what's being worked on now. That's the silence.

[Dex]

The Spurs terminology lists two 'posts' (bigs), two 'wings' (SG/SF), and a lead (point) guard. For most plays, the two wings are interchangeable. I remember a shot that RMJ made against the Suns to win a game a few years ago, and it came out that he and Manu switched their 'routes' on that play.

Best Christmas game ever.

[Spurs da champs]

The Spurs terminology lists two 'posts' (bigs), two 'wings' (SG/SF), and a lead (point) guard. For most plays, the two wings are interchangeable. I remember a shot that RMJ made against the Suns to win a game a few years ago, and it came out that he and Manu switched their 'routes' on that play.

Maybe I should rephrase wing to 3, because here that's position he'll be playing for sure. I don't know much about him, but Brett Brown did say he reminded him of Kawhi. Tony Allen played 3 for Memphis & he was tiny, he also couldn't shoot, apparently Zhaire can shoot so maybe that will work out.

[rasuo214]

So far I have only heard two sources from the meeting. Jabari's tweet and Stephen A Smith's. Both seemed to contradict each other in some ways. The silence to the media, does bode well because it likely signals them playing ball with the Spurs (doing things behind closed doors).

The Spurs may be trying to convince them to sign an extension but playout at least a portion of the year or fully with them and work on a trade for him next year. The Spurs giving out the loyalty contracts especially the one like Gasol is meant to give them the reputation of sticking to their word. They do have the leverage of having him for at least one more year.

Jabari seems to have ties with Kawhi's group and his report was positive. SAS works for ESPN so I would assume he's getting info from that and his report fits with the ESPN report.

[Mugen]

Boston still presents the best offer to me if the main pieces are Brown and the Kings' 19th. That's both better than any player and pick that the Sixers can send back.

I'd even take Hayward back in addition to the above assuming they take Pau or Patty as I think it's pretty clear the Spurs have no intention of tanking these next 2 seasons.