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    I’m having a hard time keeping up here, so let me get this straight: Kawhi is worried about becoming the next Isaiah Thomas because Thomas lost $50-$100M by playing hurt, but Kawhi is totally fine with giving up $80 million to play in LA. Because he is an artist who has found his voice.

    Uncle Dennis is really not very good at this.
    And he's angry at the Spurs for letting him try to play then letting him take the rest of the year off.

    Makes perfect sense.

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    He simultaneously cares and does not care about the money. Open the box and see what happens! He’s Schrodinger’s Mute.

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    No one ever talked to that dumbass. I'll still never forget him reporting Prime Grant Hill was signing here for the mid level exception back when the MLE was like $1.2 million. Then a couple of days later he reported Prime Grant Hill would sign with Philly to play with Iverson. The only good thing Vescey ever did was that hilarious interview where he kept on ting on Karl Malone after he blew the 97 Finals.
    crofl, never knew that.

    Uncle Dennis strikes me as someone who would think talking with Vescey is a big deal.
    good point

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    a great defensive guard will rebound worse than a ty defensive center. its an awful stat.

    i think brown can be a really good #2 player. he's always been a great athlete and his jump shot really came around last year. i see him being one of the better defensive guards in the league who is also a 20+ppg guy
    I think Brown's going to end up a really overpaid #2 or #3 player considering he'll be likely to cost a max contract. I could see him putting up 20 ppg the same way Antoine Carr did in Sacramento.

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    He simultaneously cares and does not care about the money. Open the box and see what happens! He’s Schrodinger’s Mute.

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    I refused to believe that the "group" that turned down the Jordan deal, is headed by a guy trying to start up his own agency, and includes an agent with no other notable NBA clients besides Jeff Ayres doesn't give a about 80+ mil
    Good point

    How many yuan is Ayres going to make them?

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    Make Leonard stay for the season. You lose him as a free agent, but then you can turn around and sign another free agent like Tobias Harris or Klay Thompson or use your cap space to take on contracts with draft picks. Bottom line is that you do not have to trade Leonard to get value back and you can force him to put that Spurs jersey on for one more season. If the Spurs are willing to play their cards to this extent then they are the ones who remain in control.

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    I feel like I could get along with anyone for an additional $80 million.

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    I’m having a hard time keeping up here, so let me get this straight: Kawhi is worried about becoming the next Isaiah Thomas because Thomas lost $50-$100M by playing hurt, but Kawhi is totally fine with giving up $80 million to play in LA. Because he is an artist who has found his voice.

    Uncle Dennis is really not very good at this.
    Exactly.

    It's so stupid.

    Kawhi can't risk serious injury, he can't be Isaih Thomas who played through everything!

    But the Spurs let him go do his own rehab and abandon the team and take the year off. They cleared him to play but didn't force him even though they could have done so or suspended him.

    So that's THE OPPOSITE of Isaih.

    But Kawhi is the master lever puller now.

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    He simultaneously cares and does not care about the money. Open the box and see what happens! He’s Schrodinger’s Mute.

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    I think Brown's going to end up a really overpaid #2 or #3 player considering he'll be likely to cost a max contract. I could see him putting up 20 ppg the same way Antoine Carr did in Sacramento.
    Harrison Barnes puts up good numbers on a max deal. I could see a similar career for Brown.

    Of course, Barnes is maybe the third best player on the Mavs. Spurs don't have a Doncic to build around.

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    Harrison Barnes puts up good numbers on a max deal. I could see a similar career for Brown.

    Of course, Barnes is maybe the third best player on the Mavs. Spurs don't have a Doncic to build around.
    They'll also be picking top 5 before long if Jaylen Brown is the centerpiece of the Kawhi deal.

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    Peter Vecsey: “Kawhi listened to the Spurs doctor. Did everything he was told. But when he went back to play his knee began to hurt from the stress. He was scared about blowing it out. He saw what happened to Isaiah Thomas when he played in pain for Boston in the playoffs. He got reduced to damaged goods. As a free agent this summer, he’ll never recoup the $50M-$100M he lost by deciding to play. “The Spurs knew the quad was only 70 percent,” insists my source. “Kawhi got good advice, advice anybody would give their son in the same situation, see an independent doctor.”
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    We know now this is the fake news version of events. Kawhi had a nagging injury during 16-17 season and under the Spurs doctors he played the most games of his career and had a MVP caliber season.

    Him and his group decided to use their own doctors in Aug 2017, two months later he couldn't even walk to get on an airplane.

    As for the IT thing I just don't see it. IT came back right before Leonard played his last game, you couldn't make a judgement call at that time about how IT season was going to turn out.

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    Rc said mistakes were made on both sides already

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    If only Pop sits down and gets intensely emotional with the young artist (and gives him eleventy billion dollars) might this be resolved.

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    I’m having a hard time keeping up here, so let me get this straight: Kawhi is worried about becoming the next Isaiah Thomas because Thomas lost $50-$100M by playing hurt, but Kawhi is totally fine with giving up $80 million to play in LA. Because he is an artist who has found his voice.

    Uncle Dennis is really not very good at this.
    Yes, +1.

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    There’s zero chance Ainge is moving Tatum, with 4 years remaining on his cheap Rookie deal, for potentially only 1-year of Kawhi imo. No way. Even if it means Kawhi going to Philly, I don’t think Ainge caves.

    Any deal would revolve around Brown + Morris (to match salaries) + Kings pick (Top 1 protected in 2019) + Memphis pick (top 8 protected in 2019; Top 6 protected in 2020; Unprotected in 2021).

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    PATFO ed up. Told y'all s.

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    Leonard if he stays wants a long deal before he will play otherwise he will not be a spur

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    PATFO ed up. Told y'all s.
    Both have ed up

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    I’m having a hard time keeping up here, so let me get this straight: Kawhi is worried about becoming the next Isaiah Thomas because Thomas lost $50-$100M by playing hurt, but Kawhi is totally fine with giving up $80 million to play in LA. Because he is an artist who has found his voice.

    Uncle Dennis is really not very good at this.
    Exactly. However, it's a "trust" issue. Not about the money. *sarcasm

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    There’s zero chance Ainge is moving Tatum, with 4 years remaining on his cheap Rookie deal, for potentially only 1-year of Kawhi imo. No way. Even if it means Kawhi going to Philly, I don’t think Ainge caves.

    Any deal would revolve around Brown + Morris (to match salaries) + Kings pick (Top 1 protected in 2019) + Memphis pick (top 8 protected in 2019; Top 6 protected in 2020; Unprotected in 2021).
    I'd take that deal easily over a Sixers package.

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    Leonard back and recommitted gives you an outside shot at a championship over the next couple of seasons (unless Pop is Bill Snyder he's not going to coach past that). Focus on winning now and put off any rebuild until later.

    Otherwise you see what you can get for Leonard in a trade with an eye towards rebuilding now and setting the table for Pop's successor. You avoid making that tremendous financial commitment to a perimeter player which you'll have to pay out over the down slope of his career.

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    Rc said mistakes were made on both sides already
    I might be taking this literally, but after pop and Leonard meeting. Jabari said the meeting was described as good and will have dialogue in the future. While anything can change, could this mean that they are starting to talk it out. Possibly leonards side has admitted they might have done things wrong as well?

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    Pop's heading up USA Basketball, his wife just passed, how much does he want to really deal with this moving forward? As good a time as any to hand things over to Becky.

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