Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[RD2191]

Will Kawhi stay if we sacrifice Parker to the god of pork?

[objective]

Plot thickens after ESPN story. So Spurs fans would you take Ingram, Kuzma, Josh Hart, 2-1st rounders, J.Randle in a sign and trade for Kawhi and salary dump of a bad contract either Pau, Danny or Patty? Looks like Lakers upping the ante. Spurs won't take bad Deng deal.

i hate sending to Lakers, but this is not a bad deal at all. We get rid of Pau and not absorb Deng bad contract

What good is sending Pau? He's stretched after this coming season anyway, and the Spurs still lose big, don't contend anymore, and lock up their future cap with Randle? Just to make Kawhi and the Lakers happy?

[phxspurfan]

The Spurs have to know that there is no need to rush. At All. Time is on their side. Just wait it out. They don't owe favors to anyone.

incorrect. If Leonard truly wants out / wants to go to LA (something likely only Pop knows in the FO), now if the time to do it. If we wait until next year the Lakers could have swung/missed on LeBron and their plan would be very different by the trade deadline. Also the prospects of trading for a half year rental make him much less valuable, even if he states publicly he intends to re-sign with LA if traded there.

We get the most out of him by trading him now, if that is what Leonard wants.

[phxspurfan]

Two high lottery picks, Ingram, Hart, and they take back a ty contract like Patty.

If they come to the table with that, then the Spurs should listen.

They'll have to dump Ball, Kuz, and Randle to get those picks so good luck to them. But you don't settle for anything less.

Why not take a lottery pick, Kuz and Ingram

[BatManu20]

Still don’t think PATFO are going to trade Kawhi to the Lakers, no matter how sweet the pot is. I’d be shocked.

[mo7888]

If the Lakers trade ball and get a 1^st rounder to send to the Spurs, the question becomes which package do you like better?

Lakers – Ingram, Kuzma, Randle, picks
Philly – fultz, saric, Covington, smith, Miami pick.

It depends on what the picks associated with the LA deal are? Is it a projected lottery pick next year? Are young players attached? For instance, if ball could net Josh Jackson plus a Phoenix 1st that would be difficult for anyone to top.

[Mugen]

Why not take a lottery pick, Kuz and Ingram

Kuzma sucks but that might be their best offer. I still wouldn't take it unless it's an uprotected, high lottery pick.

no on taking on Randle and what he's about to be paid. that.

[BillMc]

I haven't followed Lakers at all. Ingram was a no 2 draft pick. Did he not pan out?

[HarlemHeat37]

Not sure if the League likes it actually. I didn't hear it directly, but I don't think Silver likes these super teams.... It diminishes the product. If you got great players spread out with multiple teams, increased parity. Right now parity is at an all time low. He basically said the league can only do so much to prevent it. They can't control players using free agency to create there own teams, to take less money or talk to each other.

Maybe they won't like it for the future, but they desperately need a team to beat the Warriors right now IMO..also, the only way to break up the Warriors might be for somebody to finally beat them..have to create turmoil within their locker room, make it not worth it to take a pay cut, force ownership to want to avoid paying that colossal luxury tax bill..

A Lakers-Warriors series with those players would be the league's biggest draw in 20+ years..

[RD2191]

Still don’t think PATFO are going to trade Kawhi to the Lakers, no matter how sweet the pot is. I’d be shocked.

Do they have a choice? Kawhi killed his trade value when he said he'd only resign with the Lakers. Not many teams are going to gamble away their future for a season of Kawhi tbh

[SAGirl]

It's Kawhi and his idiot representatives that screwed it up

If he had a real agent who had a clue it would have been handled quietly and correctly and he'd be a Laker already.

Pop/RC has never kept a player from making more money somewhere else or from going home.

When Rodman was in debt and justifying a season long suspension with his antics, Pop sent him to Chicago where he'd win, make more in endorsements, and get everything he wanted. He shouldn't have, but Pop did that.

When Derek Anderson wanted more than the Spurs offered and couldn't get it from a capped out Portland in free agency, they did him the favor and took back a washed up Steve Smith so Anderson could get his money.

When Scola was desperate to play in the NBA with his prime slipping by, they traded him to a rival. They didn't have to. They could have kept him in Europe as punishment for badmouthing them and not taking their deal.

When they got Spanoulis back for Scola, and he cried about how he missed his mama and needed to go back to Greece, they let him go. They didn't have to, but they did.

When De Colo was the fourth string point and wanted a change, they moved him on.

When Finley was a washed up bum and losing minutes, he asked for release so he could join a 'contender'. They let him go.

When Corey Joseph was RFA and they could have forced him to play on the QO because other teams were scared off, they let him off the QO and he got himself a nice deal.

When Simmons was in the same situation, they let him go. They shouldn't have from an asset perspective. But he had never made real money at his age, and they did him the favor and let him go get money.

Spurs have ALWAYS helped players get more money or into a better situation, even when they shouldn't have, even when it hurt the team

If Kawhi wasn't a quitter who let his inexperienced vulture reps destroy the Spurs reputation and screw them preemptively, this would already be over

You make great points. If there is something PATFO isn't, is vindictive. They have done right by their players and those they couldn't afford to pay even when they wanted to, they encouraged to go... Boban comes to mind as a great example. Marco too.

Kawhi is different because he's a franchise player and you'd want to do everything that you can to keep him, but they wouldn't force him. I think there is a fair amount of information out there that doesn't come from either Kiwi or the Spurs...

[RD2191]

Maybe they won't like it for the future, but they desperately need a team to beat the Warriors right now IMO..

A Lakers-Warriors series with those players would be the league's biggest draw in 20+ years..

But they're the same fans?

[KDKSpurs24]

I haven't followed Lakers at all. Ingram was a no 2 draft pick. Did he not pan out?

The dude is still progressing and when he puts some more muscle on then I feel like he’ll be a good player. But people here are trashing on him for no reason, imo. They talk about our development of players but then act like we wouldn’t be able to develop him into a really good player. His only major problem is injuries (which is a big concern) but with muscle that injury concern goes down a bit.

[LakerHater]

So Lakers offering up the house + 2 1st rounders!!!

[MoSpur02]

incorrect. If Leonard truly wants out / wants to go to LA (something likely only Pop knows in the FO), now if the time to do it. If we wait until next year the Lakers could have swung/missed on LeBron and their plan would be very different by the trade deadline. Also the prospects of trading for a half year rental make him much less valuable, even if he states publicly he intends to re-sign with LA if traded there.

We get the most out of him by trading him now, if that is what Leonard wants.

Not talking about waiting for the trade deadline. Talking about waiting to see what PG and LeBron do.

[RD2191]

, will Kawhi be the most hated fan in S.A. history if he goes to the Lakers?

[BillMc]

The dude is still progressing and when he puts some more muscle on then I feel like he’ll be a good player. But people here are trashing on him for no reason, imo. They talk about our development of players but then act like we wouldn’t be able to develop him into a really good player. His only major problem is injuries (which is a big concern) but with muscle that injury concern goes down a bit.

Cheers man. Thanks for the clarification.

[picnroll]

The dude is still progressing and when he puts some more muscle on then I feel like he’ll be a good player. But people here are trashing on him for no reason, imo. They talk about our development of players but then act like we wouldn’t be able to develop him into a really good player. His only major problem is injuries (which is a big concern) but with muscle that injury concern goes down a bit.

Short of Barry Bonds level PEDs Ingram will never put on enough muscle. He makes Durant look like Schwarzenegger.

[RD2191]

If Kawhi really told pop he doesn't want to be in S.A. then they need to move him asap. No need to drag it out any longer and start the season with more questions than answers.

[RD2191]

Short of Barry Bonds level PEDs Ingram will never put on enough muscle. He makes Durant look like Schwarzenegger.

[LakerHater]

, will Kawhi be the most hated fan in S.A. history if he goes to the Lakers?

He'll pass up Yolanda Saldivar!

[KDKSpurs24]

Short of Barry Bonds level PEDs Ingram will never put on enough muscle. He makes Durant look like Schwarzenegger.

Durant was the same kind of size when he first came in and don’t forget Durant only max bench pressed a measly 185 pounds when he came in. He’s probably not reaching Durant level but he’s still capable of gaining around the same weight Durant has now proportionate to his height.

[HarlemHeat37]

I haven't followed Lakers at all. Ingram was a no 2 draft pick. Did he not pan out?

He's had 1 really good stretch in 2 seasons and is already prone to injuries..he's still a nice prospect, could be a star, but I don't see a superstar..

Ingram as a trade piece is fine, but they don't have anything else..Kuzma is your typical volume scorer with no other skills, those are the easiest players to find in the league(despite the Spurs being allergic to them )

[MoSpur02]

He'll pass up Yolanda Saldivar!

almost spit out my water

[BillMc]

He's had 1 really good stretch in 2 seasons and is already prone to injuries..he's still a nice prospect, could be a star, but I don't see a superstar..

Ingram as a trade piece is fine, but they don't have anything else..Kuzma is your typical volume scorer with no other skills, those are the easiest players to find in the league(despite the Spurs being allergic to them )