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    A 3 team trade involving LAL/SAS/PHX makes sense where LAL sends Ball to Suns for JJ. The suns biggest need right now is a PG. Lonzo is in the same age group as suns core. So in that scenario the spurs would receive Ingram/Kuz/Jackson . I'd do that in a heartbeat. Its a win win for everyone imho
    If they wouldn't trade JJ for Kyrie, what makes you think they will for Lonzo?

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    If they wouldn't trade JJ for Kyrie, what makes you think they will for Lonzo?
    #exactly

    PHO shut down Cleveland last summer when they wanted Jackson. Kyrie is All NBA.

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    If they wouldn't trade JJ for Kyrie, what makes you think they will for Lonzo?
    Lakers probably have to throw in sweetener.. But JJ was okay not great both Lonzo and Kuz had better rookie years but JJ still has great upside.

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    If they wouldn't trade JJ for Kyrie, what makes you think they will for Lonzo?
    Maybe because Kyrie said he wouldn't sign long term. Ball has how many years on his rookie deal? 3?

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    No chance its la lakers this season, unreal people even think that may happen

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    Spurs won't win this trade. That's long gone. Get the best deal you can even if it's with the Lakers. Letting him walk in free agency shouldn't even be an option.

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    How much does that cost them?
    Nothing, they can withdraw the qualifying offer any time they want.

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    Spurs probably do it, Suns might do it, but I don't think the Lakers would do all 3 of Ingram, Ball and Kuzma, for Leonard.

    Even though I'm not particularly high on Ingram or Jackson and it would appease Leonard and help the Lakers, Spurs couldn't beat that package.

    Still, there's no possibility of a superstar in it. That's more than likely a pipedream no matter the package, but at least with assets like the Kings/Grizzlies pick via the Celtics or Fultz, there's a miniscule chance. Those assets don't have as high a floor though.

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    Spurs won't win this trade. That's long gone. Get the best deal you can even if it's with the Lakers. Letting him walk in free agency shouldn't even be an option.
    Helping a team in the same conference build a superteam, no way

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    It’s the difference between the $179 million he can get if he signs an extension wherever he gets traded, and the $99 million or so the Lakers could offer if they sign two max free agents this summer.

    If they strike out this summer, that doesn’t apply, and I think he could get around $139 million. But he would be stranded on a mediocre team with little help.
    The number they could offer Kawhi is $99 million only if they sign those two and stretch Deng. If they sign those two and salary dump Deng they should be able to offer 4 years, $130 million after completely cleaning house on everything besides James and George. You gotta wonder if they'd actually want to attach their young guys to Deng this summer though when signing Leonard next summer is so uncertain. Plus LeBron isn't going to LA to help them build for the future, he'd be going to win now and would go ballistic at the thought of the Lakers hoarding cap space for a year after trading their prospects for it when they could sign someone like Cousins, Capella, or Jordan with that money (LeBron was pissed the Cavs didn't trade pick #8 for DeAndre at the deadline).

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    Maybe because Kyrie said he wouldn't sign long term. Ball has how many years on his rookie deal? 3?
    I think he said he would only sign an extension with one or two teamson his list (Spurs being oner of them) but he wouldn't guarantee a signature from another team. And true to his word, he doesn't plan on signing with the Celtics either. He's going to free agency.

    Whomever trades for Lonzo also gets Lavar.

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    Spurs won't win this trade. That's long gone. Get the best deal you can even if it's with the Lakers. Letting him walk in free agency shouldn't even be an option.
    Depending on how this plays out, sure it should.

    a) There is no point in taking out some other team's trash. It only slows your retool or rebuild.
    b) If he does the same with medical stuff, you hold him to the bitter end, and only give him the least lucrative option: signing somewhere as a FA. him and his Group.

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    Ingram + others. Ship it magic!

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    Probably the Prime reason PG is having second thoughts about leaving OKC.
    ESPN is so full of when they keep reporting OKC can offer PG13 the supermax. They can't. Only Indiana could have. It can only be offered by the team that drafted him unless he was traded during his rookie deal. In that case the team that landed him during his rookie deal would be the only ones able to offer supermax. The difference between the Bird deal he could sign in OKC and the deal he could sign in LA is the fifth year in OKC and 8% raises vs 4.5% raises (where the yearly raises are based on the first year salary in both cases, eg non-compounded).

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    I prefer randle To kuzma, if we could have randle ingram and a pick that would not be bad.

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    If they wouldn't trade JJ for Kyrie, what makes you think they will for Lonzo?
    Maybe because Lonzo is cheaper and under contract and they didn’t think Kyrie would stay? Who knows.

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    Spurs probably do it, Suns might do it, but I don't think the Lakers would do all 3 of Ingram, Ball and Kuzma, for Leonard.

    Even though I'm not particularly high on Ingram or Jackson and it would appease Leonard and help the Lakers, Spurs couldn't beat that package.

    Still, there's no possibility of a superstar in it. That's more than likely a pipedream no matter the package, but at least with assets like the Kings/Grizzlies pick via the Celtics or Fultz, there's a miniscule chance. Those assets don't have as high a floor though.
    You have to view, if you are the Lakers, in the lense of Ball, Ingram, Kuz for Lebron + Kawhi.

    If you know you won’t land Bron without PG or Kawhi and you can get Kawhi for sure, then that means you get Bron. Even if you somehow whiff on Bron, getting a true top 5 player in his prime that will extend is probably worth Kuz/Ball/Ingram.

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    I prefer randle To kuzma, if we could have randle ingram and a pick that would not be bad.
    Ugh paying near max for ing Julian.

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    So the Spurs are now actively talking to Lakers?
    I doubt it. Why should the Spurs feel rushed because the Lakers are scared they are not getting Lebron? Spurs know they are not getting Lebron, so they should give no s..

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    The number they could offer Kawhi is $99 million only if they sign those two and stretch Deng. If they sign those two and salary dump Deng they should be able to offer 4 years, $130 million after completely cleaning house on everything besides James and George. You gotta wonder if they'd actually want to attach their young guys to Deng this summer though when signing Leonard next summer is so uncertain. Plus LeBron isn't going to LA to help them build for the future, he'd be going to win now and would go ballistic at the thought of the Lakers hoarding cap space for a year after trading their prospects for it when they could sign someone like Cousins, Capella, or Jordan with that money (LeBron was pissed the Cavs didn't trade pick #8 for DeAndre at the deadline).
    If that is the case, then you do the trade since in your scenario Lonzo, Ingram, Kuz would all be gone anyways..

    Also, letting Kawhi go another year? What if he gets injured again? Now you have nothing there either.

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    [Rob] Where are we with the Spurs thing?
    [Magic] It just keeps ringing and ringing...

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    [Rob] Where are we with the Spurs thing?
    [Magic] It just keeps ringing and ringing...

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    Depending on how this plays out, sure it should.

    a) There is no point in taking out some other team's trash. It only slows your retool or rebuild.
    b) If he does the same with medical stuff, you hold him to the bitter end, and only give him the least lucrative option: signing somewhere as a FA. him and his Group.
    How so? Kuzma and Ingram would automatically be the Spurs 2nd and 3rd best players. Have you seen our roster sans LMA and Kawhi? It's utter dog . And rebuild or retool? I don't see free agents lining up to sign with the Spurs any time soon.

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    Ugh paying near max for ing Julian.
    Julian is a damn good player. Would I want him at max? No, but for 15-19M, sure.

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    Depending on how this plays out, sure it should.

    a) There is no point in taking out some other team's trash. It only slows your retool or rebuild.
    b) If he does the same with medical stuff, you hold him to the bitter end, and only give him the least lucrative option: signing somewhere as a FA. him and his Group.
    Exactly

    , I'd think the Spurs should consider a Lakers deal BUT FIRST Kawhi needs to apologize and correct the record publicly

    His greater sphere of reps and sources have defamed the Spurs, smeared their character, ruined their reputation and cost the franchise millions upon millions of dollars and destroyed their future

    He wants the Lakers?

    Let's see him beg on TV. Let's see a sit down interview where he admits he quit on the team and admits he could have played but chose not to. Admit there's nothing wrong with the medical staff and front office. Admit the Spurs treated him ABOVE AND BEYOND GREAT. But that he's now looking to put it all behind him and join the Lakers with nothing but love and respect for Pop and the Spurs

    Let's see that first

    And after that ... Still sit him out.

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