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    I mean, the front office knows they're not getting Kawhi short of the 219 supermax right? I could easily see dumbass Uncle Dennis actually thinking they make up that money in a bigger market and not taking anything less than the 219.

    If they're not prepared to offer the supermax then they should absolutely trade him soon.
    I agree that Kawhi is definitely shooting for the supermax or bust.

    As for whether he deserves it or not...I'm not convinced. If you had asked me a year ago, I'd say yes without hesitation.

    But...can the team really offer ~$40M a year (basically a third of their cap) to one guy who has, admittedly, been injury prone...and now doesn't really seem to even support the franchise that was handed to him?

    Frankly, Kawhi doesn't deserve the supermax after the last year, despite all of his talent. The best Spurs fans can hope for is that this is all a ploy to get him there, and then he will continue with the franchise for the next 5 years.

    Obviously, I'm not holding my breath.

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    I agree that Kawhi is definitely shooting for the supermax or bust.

    As for whether he deserves it or not...I'm not convinced. If you had asked me a year ago, I'd say yes without hesitation.

    But...can the team really offer ~$40M a year (basically a third of their cap) to one guy who has, admittedly been injury prone...and now doesn't really seem to even support the franchise that was handed to him?

    Frankly, Kawhi doesn't deserve the supermax after the last year, despite all of his talent. The best Spurs fans can hope for is that this is all a ploy to get him there, and then he will continue with the franchise for the next 5 years.

    Obviously, I'm not holding my breath.
    all valid concerns. And if ownership and the front office aren't prepared to offer him the supermax, then you should trade him soon and not hold up the rest of your offseason moves.

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    mess with the bull, get the horns. That would be so ing dirty and I love it.
    It's one of the main reasons I've been pumping dumping his ass in Milwaukee at the trade deadline, for whatever scrap pieces you can get. Doubtful he'd re-sign. But even if he did, he's in ing Milwaukee.

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    Just play hard ball with kawhi, tell him he's not gonna see any playing time if he's not sign extension, could he afford himself another year without playing? If he leaves at the end and we missed out on kuzma so be it...

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    LeBron is not stupid - he knows he needs another top tier superstar (Kawhi), not a 2nd tier one (PG) to beat GS. Obviously Lakers will need a 3rd team, but Magic is the one under the pump more than anyone & hopefully he gives us some bat crazy deal.

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    Scenario: PG signs with the Lakers, Bron doesn't come, and LA has a max slot next summer.

    Teams see what happened to OKC when they traded for PG and that LA has a max slot for next season with Leonard's name on it. Your ty offers get even tier.
    That’s literally the only bad thing that could happen, and you’d still have teams give you something. There are also the scenarios where both of them sign, neither of them sign, or LeBron goes to Philly, all good for us.

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    It's one of the main reasons I've been pumping dumping his ass in Milwaukee at the trade deadline, for whatever scrap pieces you can get. Doubtful he'd re-sign. But even if he did, he's in ing Milwaukee.
    You know if he gets traded to Milwaukee that tendinopathy is going to flair up again and he will be spending all his time in NY.

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    Scenario: PG signs with the Lakers, Bron doesn't come, and LA has a max slot next summer.

    Teams see what happened to OKC when they traded for PG and that LA has a max slot for next season with Leonard's name on it. Your ty offers get even tier.
    Counterpoint - even if all that happens, Kawhi just sat out a year, what if sits out again? What if he plays with no security and gets hurt? TONS of risk.

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    if leonard gets offer an extension even if not a supermax he is playing a risk if he gets injured correct
    a long term deal would help him medical would cover alot if spurs signed him to it and he got hurt
    Last edited by ducks; 06-27-2018 at 06:45 PM. Reason: mb having a cow over typo

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    The FO did Kawhi wrong... Bottom line... Don't get mad at his reaction... Misdiagnosis... Mad at seeking second opinion... Public shade throwing and implying he is injured simply so he can play unhealthy to carry the old guys to the playoffs? Nah fam... U don't have the moral high ground... We KNOW what the FO has done wrong... Everything wrong said about Kawhi has been speculation... He isn't out here o Twitter throwing shade
    Your defense of kawhi is repugnant imo. Hows his sperm taste?

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    Your defense of kawhi is repugnant imo. Hows his sperm taste?

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    Scenario: PG signs with the Lakers, Bron doesn't come, and LA has a max slot next summer.

    Teams see what happened to OKC when they traded for PG and that LA has a max slot for next season with Leonard's name on it. Your ty offers get even tier.
    Scenario with a guarantee:

    Tobias Harris and at least 1 future first will always be on the table

    If the Lakers get y and lower their offer you drop him in Jerry West's lap and enjoy the sound of Magic ting a brick at the thought of Jerry West getting into Kawhi's head

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    Scenario with a guarantee:

    Tobias Harris and at least 1 future first will always be on the table

    If the Lakers get y and lower their offer you drop him in Jerry West's lap and enjoy the sound of Magic ting a brick at the thought of Jerry West getting into Kawhi's head
    That deal is worse than the two 1st round picks plus Harris that the Spurs turned down on draft night.

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    Your defense of kawhi is repugnant imo. Hows his sperm taste?
    It's laughable at this point

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    Lol. Pretty sure the Spurs dont want DJ or Gallo. Maybe trade those guys for some draft picks. Of the Clippers want Kawhi they gotta give up all their lottery picks plus future ones, tobias Harris, and probably avery Bradley/Patrick beverly

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    Why would we want anything from LA? They got nothing. LA

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    That deal is worse than the two 1st round picks plus Harris that the Spurs turned down on draft night.
    The point is that offer will always be there no matter what. It won’t get worse than that thus SA will always have some level of leverage.

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    Depending on how this plays out, sure it should.

    a) There is no point in taking out some other team's trash. It only slows your retool or rebuild.
    b) If he does the same with medical stuff, you hold him to the bitter end, and only give him the least lucrative option: signing somewhere as a FA. him and his Group.

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    if leonard gets offer an extension even if not a supertax he is playing a risk if he gets injured correct
    a long term deal would help him medical would cover alot if spurs signed him to it and he got hurt
    Supertax? Stop with the politics ducks.

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    When he's held out another year and staying in LA to bide his time, what's he going to do to pass the time?

    At the encouragement of the people who are living off him to ingratiate themselves with him, maybe he starts drinking and partying out of restlessness.

    It's going to be a looooooong time before he starts playing real ball. Everyone in LA will be sooooo nice to him, being his friend and offering to help stave off the boredom.

    Vin Baker and Shawn Kemp found ways to pass the time, maybe Kawhi will too.

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    The point is that offer will always be there no matter what. It won’t get worse than that thus SA will always have some level of leverage.
    We'll see idk if Magic is patient enough to call PATFO's bluff, but this is a dangerous game of playing with fire here.

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    I've always maintained that Ingram is the better young player available over anything that the Celtics and 76ers can offer, outside Ben Simmons of course. Spurs net Ingram, Ball, Kuzma and picks, that's good spot. Randle is a no though. Flipping ball for Jackson for example solidified our wing rotation for years. Although I think Ball in SA system is a dream prospect to have, if only his dad wasn't his dad. Then you let Gasol and green contract run out next season and you got abilty to max Klay for example in 2019.

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    Supertax? Stop with the politics ducks.
    I ment supermax not tax it was a typo

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    That deal is worse than the two 1st round picks plus Harris that the Spurs turned down on draft night.
    The point is that offer will always be there no matter what. It won’t get worse than that thus SA will always have some level of leverage.
    Exactly. There will always be something there for the Spurs.

    For the Lakers, there might not always be cap room for a max, or another star until it's settled in free agency.

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    That's about the market for LA teams. I'm assuming they do a sign and trade. Kawhi, DJ, Gallo, one of Beverly or Bradley is better than what you guys have right now.

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