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    #1 isn't realistic and #2 is straight trash homie.
    Why isn't one realistic? Push comes to shove, Magic Johnson says yes.

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    #1 isn't realistic and #2 is straight trash homie.
    Meh. We will see. If you were LA would you trade Ingram, Kuz and Ball for Lebron and Kawhi? Also, I’m higher on Julius more than most. I don’t love Ingram but he’s a legit prospect.

    If you can get Ingram/Julius those are both solid young pieces and rid yourself of Pau/Mills money completely?

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    But the same can be said about people hating on this guy until he develops and proves them wrong. Both are possibilities. I saw an earlier tweet about when a guy said Pacers didn’t get any good assets for Paul George and then people started defending Oladipo. But the truth is, the guy was right. Oladipo had just come off a terrible playoffs and no one could have seen the leap he’d make this year. So there still is that possibility that we get that type of development from Ingram. And better yet, our deal would also have Kuzma. The benefit is that we could have TWO guys develop to that level from our trade. But at the end of the day, we’re not gonna be getting an equal trade right now but maybe it could turn out to be a good return for us in the future, especially if our development team lives up to their hype.
    Pacers won their deal because PG when he's healthy is not a top 3 NBA player. Kawhi when healthy is the second best player in the league. The Lakers would get him in his prime and would get to win a few championships with him while the Spurs are 99 percent likely not to ever win a le with Ingram/Kuzma. Trust me seeing Kawhi win at the Spurs expense will be every painful especially in a Lakers jersey. It will be a tier feeling that will be a 100x worse than when the Spurs would lose to the Lakers in the playoffs during the Duncan era. It will be like the bs Gasol trade for the Grizzlies granted Marc turned out to be a good player but he was never as good as prime Pau. Also the best the Grizzlies got with that trade was going to the WCF and getting swept.
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    Now that would be intriguing. Wodbe nice to have a big that can score alongside LMA
    KAT on spurs would be great, but I think Minny is looking to dump Wiggins, not KAT ...

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    I agree. You're going to enjoy paying a max salary to Ingram in two years when he's at best a Millsap level player? Or you let him walk and then you got less than nothing since you spent two years developing him? People overrate B-level talent on rookie contracts so much here. Everyone loves these guys until they get their first real contract they negotiate.

    Its a risk for sure, but the Spurs aren't going to completely blow it up until Pop retires so you probably have a two year window before a true rebuild anyway. No one expected Kawhi to be great, and Ingram DOES have promise. They also have the option of trading him in the future as well. I"m all for the Spurs doing what Boston has done, and simply collecting assets and let the rest work itself out.

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    Don't say that! Don't ever say that! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?!?!?
    We never surrendered to the Japanese at Waterloo!! Did we??

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    Don't say that! Don't ever say that! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?!?!?
    Forget it. He's rolling.

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    Man, at least I end up being right that the Pop and RC would cave to the Lakers

    What a stupid ing move if they end up trading him to LA before Free agency, clown ass front office....

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    Its a risk for sure, but the Spurs aren't going to completely blow it up until Pop retires so you probably have a two year window before a true rebuild anyway. No one expected Kawhi to be great, and Ingram DOES have promise. They also have the option of trading him in the future as well. I"m all for the Spurs doing what Boston has done, and simply collecting assets and let the rest work itself out.
    Kawhi's rookie year was a lot better than anything Ingram has ever done. The Celtics got picks from lottery teams from trading old stiffs like Pierce and Garnett. Nothing the Lakers have proposed can match that. If you want to do what Boston has done the last thing you do is take Kuzma and Ingram for your star.

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    Kawhi's rookie year was a lot better than anything Ingram has ever done. The Celtics got picks from lottery teams from trading old stiffs like Pierce and Garnett. Nothing the Lakers have proposed can match that. If you want to do what Boston has done the last thing you do is take Kuzma and Ingram for your star.
    Also factor in the Nets were ty so the Celtics ended up with good picks. The Lakers with Kawhi would also form a super team which would lead to ty picks in return.

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    Doubt this


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    Forget it. He's rolling.
    Greg honey, is it supposed to be this soft?

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    Man, at least I end up being right that the Pop and RC would cave to the Lakers

    What a stupid ing move if they end up trading him to LA before Free agency, clown ass front office....
    Nothing's happened. This is all LA FO and ESPN bull . Put the gun down.

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    Lakers get kawhi and Pau

    Spurs get ingram, kuzma, Wagner, next year's first, and Thomas Bryant

    Trade tony and mills for future picks

    PG- murray, white, Forbes
    SG- green, Walker, hilliard
    SF- ingram, kuzma, blossomgame
    PF- Wagner, metu, LJC
    C- Aldridge, mulitinov, bryant

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    We never surrendered to the Japanese at Waterloo!! Did we??
    Forget it. He's rolling.

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    Greg honey, is it supposed to be this soft?


    Classic movie.

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    Sign and trade Randle + Ball to Wolves, Kawhi +Gasol to Lakers, KAT, Ingram, Kuzma to Spurs?
    Wolves wouldn't do it, but I'd take that. Spurs get a young core, but KAT +LMA gives them a fierce frontcourt that would keep them a playoff team at the same time.

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    Ingram is a must get in any Laker trade.

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    If I was RC I would tell the Lakers to get ed unless it’s Ingram + Kuzma + Lonzo + 1st.. then flip Lonzo and his re ed dad for a another high 1st to a team or a high end prospect like Josh Jackson..

    The Lakers are essentially trading for Lebron and Kawhi.. not just Kawhi.. they know it .. and the Spurs will have that in the back back of their mind.

    I wouldn’t take anything less than the above if im dealing with the Lakers as I agree with posters above who say Ingram and Kuzma are B and C level prospects at best and theyll prob get max offers when they’re due.... just getting these two for Kawhi is a ty deal and just sets the Spurs up for mediocrity for the next 5 years..

    If Lakers say no I’d rather deal with Celts and Philly for lesser packages..

    the Lakers.

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    Greg honey, is it supposed to be this soft?

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    If I was RC I would tell the Lakers to get ed unless it’s Ingram + Kuzma + Lonzo + 1st.. then flip Lonzo and his re ed dad for a another high 1st to a team or a high end prospect like Josh Jackson..

    The Lakers are essentially trading for Lebron and Kawhi.. not just Kawhi.. they know it .. and the Spurs will have that in the back back of their mind.

    I wouldn’t take anything less than the above if im dealing with the Lakers as I agree with posters above who say Ingram and Kuzma are B and C level prospects at best and theyll prob get max offers when they’re due.... just getting these two for Kawhi is a ty deal and just sets the Spurs up for mediocrity for the next 5 years..

    If Lakers say no I’d rather deal with Celts and Philly for lesser packages..

    the Lakers.
    Why even do this trade in the first place with the Lakers? You said it best basically the Spurs are trading Kawhi and Lebron to the Lakers. That's a lose lose deal in which the Spurs will look like idiots for years to come especially when the Lakers are beating the Spurs regularly in the playoffs.

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    What is the NBA doing to pressure the Spurs to make the LA trade? You know they're trying somehow.

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    If I was RC I would tell the Lakers to get ed unless it’s Ingram + Kuzma + Lonzo + 1st.. then flip Lonzo and his re ed dad for a another high 1st to a team or a high end prospect like Josh Jackson..

    The Lakers are essentially trading for Lebron and Kawhi.. not just Kawhi.. they know it .. and the Spurs will have that in the back back of their mind.

    I wouldn’t take anything less than the above if im dealing with the Lakers as I agree with posters above who say Ingram and Kuzma are B and C level prospects at best and theyll prob get max offers when they’re due.... just getting these two for Kawhi is a ty deal and just sets the Spurs up for mediocrity for the next 5 years..

    If Lakers say no I’d rather deal with Celts and Philly for lesser packages..

    the Lakers.
    If the Spurs just take Magic's crap in exchange for our Hall of Famer before free agency gets sorted out I'm done with this team. RC can't possibly be that stupid.

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    If the Spurs just take Magic's crap in exchange for our Hall of Famer before free agency gets sorted out I'm done with this team. RC can't possibly be that stupid.
    Agreed I'm retiring my spurs fandom if the Spurs trade Kawhi to the Lakers. I will just have no NBA team from this point forward if this trade goes down. I can't root for a team that straight up gets cucked it goes against my personal beliefs.

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    Why even do this trade in the first place with the Lakers? You said it best basically the Spurs are trading Kawhi and Lebron to the Lakers. That's a lose lose deal in which the Spurs will look like idiots for years to come especially when the Lakers are beating the Spurs regularly in the playoffs.
    I still probably wouldn’t .. I’d wait for AIDS to accept the deal then screenshot the email to Philly and Boston and say if you can beat this you got Kawhi .

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