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    I've been saying that he wants the max offer. Spurs aren't willing to offer it yet. They want to know how healthy he really is. The max offer is the only thing that can mend this relationship. Whether the Spurs offer it or whether his camp backs off of it somehow or someway
    Exactly this

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    That is worse than the Magic is pedaling.
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    The Sixers have yet to make a formal trade offer to San Antonio, but Philadelphia is internally discussing several trade packages the Spurs prefer in a Kawhi Leonard trade, sources say. Full details on Philly's Kawhi strategy:

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    If the offers are Boston without brown or Tatum or Ingram and a crappy pick, I would rather just keep kwahi and hope that over the next season things work out.
    Ingram, Kuzma, Wagner, 1st+ cap space

    Do it
    PATFO's rep may never recover from such a trash deal.

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    Zach Lowe on The Jump: The package that the Lakers and Spurs would consider "the line" is Ingram, Kuzma, and two first round picks. More and it's too much for the Lakers, but less and it's not enough for San Antonio.


    Two first rounders around 28-30 can have negative value since you're giving guaranteed contracts to basically second round talent, and there is no way a Lakers team with James + Leonard isn't top 3.

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    Zach Lowe on The Jump: The package that the Lakers and Spurs would consider "the line" is Ingram, Kuzma, and two first round picks. More and it's too much for the Lakers, but less and it's not enough for San Antonio.
    Lowe is these days very prone to just be giving his opinions and nothing from any source.

    thanks for posting tho. Not quoting you for any other reason than otherwise it's too tough to keep track of replies in this thread since it's so long already.

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    Kuzma, Ingram, and two first round picks is the best haul we are going to get sans a commitment from Kawhi to go elsewhere. However I'm sure Spurs would take around 80 cents on the dollar to that to trade him to the east

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    I think it's also worth noting that IF the Spurs were really sooooo concerned about Kawhi's supposedly degenerative quads that will only get worse and worse ....

    they would have traded his ass before the draft.
    I don't think they're concerned. I just think they want something in writing from The Group so that if he suddenly decides not to play, they have instant recourse.

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    off Lakers, we don't need you but you do need us.

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    Fischer: San Antonio has informed teams its preferred target in any Leonard trade is the Celtics' Jayson Tatum, sources say. It’s widely believed in league circles that Boston is more likely to propose a deal centered around Kyrie Irving and future picks.
    Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done

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    Smart or the 2 lottery picks? Cause Smart is such a non fit that it actually gives me pause on whether the Spurs should even consider such a trade.

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    Smart or the 2 lottery picks? Cause Smart is sch a non fit that it actually gives me pause on whether the Spurs should even consider such a trade.
    The smart portion of it.

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    Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done
    Irving has reportedly been interested in the Knicks, Spurs would be be in the same boat with him than they are with Kawhi. Brown doesn't seem to be on the table, neither does Tatum

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    Eh. The Spurs are in the position of strength. Every day that goes by without a deal, the pressure on the Lakers increases.

    The longer this drags on, the better for SA, though it weakens their position with Boston and Philly.
    LA's desperation may cause them to do something stupid, or use up their cap space, increasing our leverage with BOS and PHI.

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    That is worse than the Magic is pedaling.
    They won't show their hand yet. I'm sure once they get into discussing stuff things can change. Personally, I'd rather him go to Philly and screw over the Lakers anyway.

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    Two first rounders around 28-30 can have negative value since you're giving guaranteed contracts to basically second round talent, and there is no way a Lakers team with James + Leonard isn't top 3.
    10cents on the dollar

    Funny how Magic's mouthpiece Shelburne peddles that the Lakers weren't even considering moving Ingram who the Spurs were begging for but now Lowe is tossing him in there so easy.

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    In the article Zach Lowe dropped about a week ago, he mentioned that Boston would prefer a S&T involving Kawhi for Smart and the Kings and Grizzlies picks.

    If that is the case, then it would depend on whether the Spurs like Smart, how much and long does his contract run and whether it is actually both picks (which would probably end up being in the top 5 and the 10-14 range)

    There is obviously a huge fit issue to consider, he'd be a bench player and there isn't a rotation where he wouldn't be sharing the floor with another player that can't shoot (Murray, Parker, Anderson,) not to mention Spurs already have Parker, Murray, Green, White, Walker and Mills at guard with Manu potentially coming back.
    I can completely understand if the spurs hung up the phone on Boston and decided to wait it out longer back then.
    they already have a defensive stud in Murray and don't need Smart. They need guys who can score and Smart isn't it. I am sure RC told Ainge to keep looking in his stash for a better offer.

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    Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done
    That would be the dream

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    I was already very concerned about this injury when the Spurs were rumored to offer the Supermax to him. I figure it can't be helped considering the cir stances, but it has been a major red flag, the injury, the super long rehab, etc. I was already concerned he would have durability issues the rest of the way.
    The excuses made for him sitting out such as, "He wanted his money, and was not going to risk further injury, or he just was mad at the team for the handling of his injury" simply DO NOT fly with me. A compe or goes out there and plays. You play with pain, you play with adversity, you give it your all. All of the Big 3 did it for years. Name the all time great player, and they did it for years. Leonard reveled his true nature this season. He does not WANT this bad enough. Not to be the franchise guy. Buyer Beware..

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    I like marcus smart - but few issues :
    1 - he wants to get paid -- $15 million+ I read, imagine people complaining now about Mills, when you get Smart on board making more and can't put the ball in the hole ...
    2 - no shooting/offensive issues, but net energy/hustle guy who does a lot for your team -- really depends on other parts of the team if thats going to work or not .... without Kwahi, don't think it does.
    3- does he fit with other Spurs players already on board?

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    If the Spurs don't blink:

    Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

    1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

    2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?

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    Thats insulting to offer Smart + pick for Kawhi, Ainge is just trying to see who he can hustle out there.

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    Don't understand ..

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    Thats insulting to offer Smart + pick for Kawhi, Ainge is just trying to see who he can hustle out there.
    Boston fans and Philly fans are thinking the same thing about RC tbh.

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    The excuses made for him sitting out such as, "He wanted his money, and was not going to risk further injury, or he just was mad at the team for the handling of his injury" simply DO NOT fly with me. A compe or goes out there and plays. You play with pain, you play with adversity, you give it your all. All of the Big 3 did it for years. Name the all time great player, and they did it for years. Leonard reveled his true nature this season. He does not WANT this bad enough. Not to be the franchise guy. Buyer Beware..

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