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    If the Spurs don't blink:

    Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

    1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

    2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?
    #1 that would be career suicide for Leonard. The amount of money he'd give up and the absolute beating his reputation would take.
    #2 Absolutely

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    Get er done Maginka

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    Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done
    Cook so an injury probe Irving, an overrated guard in Brown who is nothing special, and meaningless picks. The longer this drags out, the worse these ideas are.

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    Ingram + Kuz is bull crap. I really hope that isn’t the best offer but SA may be out of luck.

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    If the Spurs don't blink:

    Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

    1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

    2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?
    On #1, the Spurs could request league doctors to step in and determine the extent of the supposed injury. If he's faking it he'd owe the Spurs the salary back. I'm also guessing if he has something degenerative, etc., his camp would want to avoid that review.

    2. Could, but earth would be long scorched at that point.

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    They won't show their hand yet. I'm sure once they get into discussing stuff things can change. Personally, I'd rather him go to Philly and screw over the Lakers anyway.
    Oh, definitely. If you can get Fultz, Saric, NOT Covington but other salary filler (Bayless? he's an ending contract), and that Miami unprotected 2021 pick, you do it.

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    Ingram + Kuz is bull crap. I really hope that isn’t the best offer but SA may be out of luck.
    You dont think our Spurs staff could develop those guys into all stars?

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    If the Spurs don't blink:

    Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

    1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

    2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?
    per CBAfaq

    The league or a player's team can levy a fine and/or suspension for breaking league or team rules1, respectively. Generally the league and the team do not both discipline a player for the same violation, and the league retains the right to rescind any team discipline within 48 hours and impose its own. However, there are a few exceptions where a player can be disciplined by both the league and his team -- when the egregious nature of the act or conduct is so lacking in justification as to warrant a double penalty. The CBA does not give a complete list of reasons for which a player can be fined or suspended, although some are specified:

    ....

    Intentional failure or refusal to render the services required under the player's contract or the CBA: Suspension (length unspecified).

    ...

    Players are not paid while they are suspended -- for each missed game, the player is docked a portion of his salary, whether suspended for a preseason, regular season or postseason game (see question number 13 for information on how suspensions impact team salary) as follows:

    If the suspension is less than 20 games, 1/145 of his base compensation.
    If the suspension is 20 or more games, or an indefinite suspension that lasts at least 20 games, 1/110 of his base compensation.

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    A suspended player can be traded.

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    Might as well just let Leonard try to earn that supermax back and then dare him to take an $80 million paycut. Nothing being offered beats even a 10% chance that he makes an All NBA team next season, shows he is worth the contract, and signs it.

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    Don't understand ..
    the person he's addressing is on the Spurs summer league team

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    You dont think our Spurs staff could develop those guys into all stars?
    If they did, they'd be gone once they hit free agency.

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    the Lakers. If they sign Lebron and PG, there's literally no chance of them signing Kawhi next offseason. So yeah, them. Don't do them any favours.

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    You dont think our Spurs staff could develop those guys into all stars?
    No.

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    Get er done Maginka
    hmm, so lebron and kawhi together but...
    This was reported last night
    but not in LA...

    hmm

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    Don't understand ..

    The guy he tagged in the tweet is one of his friends/former college teammates. He’s just congratulating him on making this for summer league roster, but he clearly posted it right now with the word San Antonio in it just to scare his followers for a second

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    Ingram + Kuz is bull crap. I really hope that isn’t the best offer but SA may be out of luck.
    If Pop and RC cuck now, what a ing embarrassment.

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    If they did, they'd be gone once they hit free agency.
    Lol. Looking through a small lens there buddy. Could say that about anybody they trade for then.

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    My point exactly. This dude already sweating the chance he might be in SA next season. I dont care how much "potential" the Lakers prospects have. They wouldn't be Spurs longterm. These aren't "building blocks" for the future

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    The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

    Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

    They are not in a hurry.

    They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

    They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

    They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

    They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

    Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

    So they are fine with moving on.

    But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.


    After 201 pages of straight garbage, finally somebody with some common sense.


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    Might as well just let Leonard try to earn that supermax back and then dare him to take an $80 million paycut. Nothing being offered beats even a 10% chance that he makes an All NBA team next season, shows he is worth the contract, and signs it.
    Can the Spurs realistically offer a supermax without making changes to the roster or while still improving the team?

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    Might as well just let Leonard try to earn that supermax back and then dare him to take an $80 million paycut. Nothing being offered beats even a 10% chance that he makes an All NBA team next season, shows he is worth the contract, and signs it.
    Yeah I rather gamble and keep him and see if playing for another year with the Spurs can patch things up and get signed to the supermax than accepting any of these crap packages.

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    After 201 pages of straight garbage, finally somebody with some common sense.

    I wouldn't say they would just let him walk. They would trade him east before they did that.

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    Here's what is going to happen: after all this, the Spurs are going to offer Kawhi somewhere between the top he could make signing with the Lakers and the Supermax. He always wanted the Supermax but knew the Spurs we wary about spending that cash on anybody. It's just not the Spurs way. His camp them badly overplayed things and will never get those millions back. The Spurs will offer something in between and this whole saga is over.

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    Here's what is going to happen: after all this, the Spurs are going to offer Kawhi somewhere between the top he could make signing with the Lakers and the Supermax. He always wanted the Supermax but knew the Spurs we wary about spending that cash on anybody. It's just not the Spurs way. His camp them badly overplayed things and will never get those millions back. The Spurs will offer something in between and this whole saga is over.
    Pretty sure the relationship is irreparable. Supermax or not.

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