Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[Joseph Kony]

He just doing what it takes to win games in the NBA. Spurs never had a healthy team last season not Pau's fault.

i didnt realize being clumsy and awkward, routinely getting your dribble poked away, screaming at the top of your lungs underneath the basket, and flailing around after the offensive player has already blown past you were considered "doing what it takes to win games"

[Joseph Kony]

Lottery, here we come

[RD2191]

Lottery, here we come

[Spurs4#5]

Yea, that's not what they mean by compe ive. This year shouldn't even count when you consider what they went thru. The last 6 post season appearances (not this last debacle )

12WCF
13 Finals
14 Finals
15 1st round
16 2nd round
17 WCF

That's one first round exit, I'm not factoring in cause it was such a mess with this Kawhi nonsense. Of course they want to be compe ive, this is a proud franchise. Not to mention Pop doesn't have many years left. He'll hang em up when he's ready . And if they can remain compe ive while retooling, it sets up his assistants more. I wouldn't be surprised if he has them in mind already, he's always thinking big picture

You mean to tell me the spurs have made it to at least the WCF in the last 7 years 4 times and have won a championship in that time period as well? But pop is senile and doesn’t know what he’s doing. He stopped caring a long time ago. RC is always drunk and isn’t a good GM. Spurstalk logic

[Ron Swanson]

I'm not going to quote that pic, but holy that is awful.

[NASpurs]

Are they all special needs or what? We're not running a Make-A-Wish foundation here.

[Joseph Kony]

really dont want Kyle Kuzma. dude thinks hes a lot better than he really is and probably will never be much better than he is now.

[dbestpro]

nah. Maybe as a complimentary piece in a trade package but certainly not as the centerpiece. He's a C+ level player.

Watch the highlights and Saric wins the hustle plays, passes well and hits the three. You could grade him B, but he is far from a C level player.

[sasaint]

My problems dealing with the Lakers:

-We've seen it before. Young Lakers prospects turn to when they're traded from there. I don't know if it's a case of the media overrating Lakers prospects or some psychological factor at play, but it's definitely a trend.

-As related to the above point, when prospects are traded from the Lakers, they seem to get depressed and despondent and get "homesick" for LA to the point they want out (to anywhere) from their new team. So even if the Spurs were able to develop Ingram and Kuzma into a solid 1-2 punch, they would likely leave the Spurs when their contracts expire. This means the Spurs spent all the time and work developing only to get nothing in return. Ingram and Kuzma, et al would basically turn the Spurs into a treadmill team for the next 3 years, meaning no high lottery picks. I'd rather the Spurs just go into tank mode for the next few seasons and stockpile. The pieces we'd get from the Lakers would be a very temporary "fix" (i.e. keeping the Spurs in the 8th seed hunt) that wouldn't set up the club for the future. Some might argue that if the Spurs develop these players to the point where the Spurs are "a piece away" from being a contender, they probably wouldn't leave in FA if the Spurs could sign that missing piece. Don't see that scenario as realistic given the Spurs track record of acquiring high profile free agents.

This is why the Spurs have always stockpiled and built through the draft. If they can get talent as rookies, better chance of the organization "indoctrinating them" into the culture.

Good points. The culture started teetering when Tim retired. Will it topple entirely when Pop decides to hang it up? I think the Spurs are wrestling with those issues during this whole ordeal. Will the culture be perpetuated or is the team in need of a new paradigm? Those kind of longer term considerations will likely have some bearing on the resolution of this Kawhi-sis.

[picnroll]

Lottery, here we come

So who we getting when LMA demands a trade?

[NASpurs]

why even talk to us then

[BillMc]

You mean to tell me the spurs have made it to at least the WCF in the last 7 years 4 times and have won a championship in that time period as well? But pop is senile and doesn’t know what he’s doing. He stopped caring a long time ago. RC is always drunk and isn’t a good GM. Spurstalk logic

Its ST. Spoiled fans are bored and want change for change's sake. Don't realize what they have, When they're gone they'll be clamoring for Pop and RC.

[lmbebo]

Lakers trash fail when they leave the lakers, just look at Clarkson and Nance... many examples before that.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

I’m thinking it’s going to be bad then when it happens it’s going to be worse than I thought. This is so ty.

[Ron Swanson]

why even talk to us then

Shouldn't have picked up the phone in the first place.

[cd98]

If you have enough superstars the buy into culture, you can pick the less talented guys that also fit into the culture and still win. But when you don’t have the right superstars....

George Karl used to say Pop had easiest coaching job. Pop had Duncan, Manu, and Parker. Karl had Martin, Melo, and JR Smith....

[Joseph Kony]

Lol Ingram is their only decent prospect. lmao if anyone thinks he wont be included in a deal for Leonard

[Mr. Body]

If Magic was actually asking for Dejounte Murray and not putting even Ingram on the table. *shaking my head*

[FkLA]

Watch the highlights and Saric wins the hustle plays, passes well and hits the three. You could grade him B, but he is far from a C level player.

nah. B level players are guys like Klay, PG13, Hayward, Conley, Beal, 17-18 Oladipo, etc.

Saric will never be that good. He's just another Gallinari.

[Spurs9]

All these "Twitter reporters"

[Clipper Nation]

If Magic was actually asking for Dejounte Murray and not putting even Ingram on the table. *shaking my head*

And cucked Spurs fans actually want to trade Kawhi to that team

[BatManu20]

why even talk to us then

Sounds like posturing by the Lakers in case the deal falls through. Don’t want to upset Ingram in case they have to retain him

[lmbebo]

So our best player wants to go there and we are supposed to throw in our developing talent, maybe future allstar into the trade to make it work for ya'll? And what do we get back? Lavar ball? Hart? Randle signed to a 5 year $100+ million contract? Thanks but no thanks ....

[Russ]

why even talk to us then

I doubt the Spurs will deal unless Ingram is involved.

[FkLA]

why even talk to us then

Lakers get: Kawhi and DJ
Spurs get: Magic's AIDS