Not a bad deal, vuce and saric could be good additions.
Imo we’ll need a 3rd team involved To trade kawhi.
You don't think there's a difference between the only team in Canada and the Spurs? Maybe not, they were crap for years and didn't move.
But ...
That's a nice comparison, the Vince trade.
They definitely got something for Vince, he didn't walk for nothing. How did that work out?
Would you be happy with a Vince-level return on Kawhi?
Vucevic is an expiring too so if it doesn't work out PATFO could just let him walk.
I think him and saric are guys who can commit To stay long term in SA.
I'm not going to be happy with any outcome of this. That's kind of the point. The Spurs are in a no win situation. This isn't about winning, it's about damage control. You don't trade away a top 5 player and ever win. I want the Spurs to get the best deal possible, but in no way do I expect a good outcome of this. You're delusional if you expect anything good.
The best outcome I can see is the Spurs remain a 50+ win team but get at least a couple of prospects and some draft picks. What Kawhi does and where he goes is fairly irrelevent to the Spurs success in the future as they aren't likely to be true contenders unless one of those prospects or picks pans out immediately.
Yeah, and trading away Kawhi is in no place the equivalent of the Hornets situation. There's nothing about the Hornets situation that is comparable to this one.
50 win seasons are not mediocrity. Even if you're not a true le contender, there's a lot of value in 50+ win seasons. The Spurs don't need to get back much at all from a trade to be a 50+ win team that isn't a true contender. This is pretty much inarguable considering what they did with a team that was waiting for Kawhi the entire year.
There's nothing that will make this team a le contender outside of Kawhi all of a sudden having a change of heart and playing the way he did. Even then, chemistry might never recover.
The only way the Spurs are a contender again is through drafting a superstar, getting a young prospect that becomes a superstar, or developing one of their young players to that level. So while Ingram, Kuzman, Fultz, or Tatum are all unlikely to be superstars, there is a chance that one of them develops. That chance plus draft picks is better than zero chance if Kawhi walks.
People in this thread are ting over Brandon Ingram as a prospect, but he's only 20. It's insane to on a 17 ppg guy at that age. Yeah, he's not likely to be a top 5 guy, but who the is a sure thing? He's far from a prospect.
Why did he only play 59 games on a ty team? Was he hurt? You seem to be in favor of doing a deal with the devil.
If I'm getting magic involved it's because I want Isaac, who has defensive player of the year written on him. Don't think magic want Lonzo for him.
But he's a disgruntled star, like Pau was a decade ago. Plus he has made it clear he wants to don the P&G. No GM in their right mind will give up significant assets for a potential 1-year rental. Sure, he's worth more but given all the variables involved, Spurs PATFO is in a tough spot.
Can't bring him to camp because he's disgruntled and you can't just let him walk. For example, D12 walked and we got nothing in return...set us back 5 years (and counting). Can the Spurs afford NOT to trade him?
And who cares where he's traded to if I'm Spur fan. I'd want PATFO to get the best deal possible to jumpstart the rebuild tbh.
healthy Gallinari is better than any Saric ever
He got paid last year when he refused to play even though the Spurs medical staff cleared him.
What held the Lakers back was cowtowing to Kobe and crappy front office drafting and free agent signing not losing Howard.
There you farmers go playing checkers again. You are partially correct...yes, the $48.5 milli deal was a mad hindrance in that present time...but it was a clear bat signal to future stars that if you sign with the Lakers, we'll take care of you even in the twilight years of your career.
Now they have maneuvered to create cap space to sign max players. Trust me, LBJ and others saw that fat contract Kobe signed...now if it actually entices him enough to sign with the Lakers remains to be seen . Stay tuned
Not buying a bit of it. It was all on Mitch and Jimmy Buss’s incompetence and the show they created. Takes a lot of screwing up to keep players from going to LA with dreams of movies, endorsements and starlets with plastic boobs but Lakers managed to pull it off.There you farmers go playing checkers again. You are partially correct...yes, the $48.5 milli deal was a mad hindrance in that present time...but it was a clear bat signal to future stars that if you sign with the Lakers, we'll take care of you even in the twilight years of your career.
Now they have maneuvered to create cap space to sign max players. Trust me, LBJ and others saw that fat contract Kobe signed...now if it actually entices him enough to sign with the Lakers remains to be seen . Stay tuned
Don't be played by the media... SAS announced yesterday that lebron texted KD to go to the Lakers... Everyone and their mom knew KD was resigning with the warriors... Even lebron had to shut that down with the quickness... The difference is that lebron cares about public perception... Kawhi doesn't give a sh*t what the media says... Don't let the media spin fool u guys... They never have sources... A reporter can never be a source for a story unless he is making it up... If you don't see them say "Kawhi told me", or "his agent told me", that means they're stating speculation as fact... The spin machine is in overdrive to get Kawhi away from the Spurs ppl
No, Kobe set you back 5 years and counting by demanding superstar money while completely washed up and being such a cancer no one wanted to come to LA to play with him.
Not true... He DID play... But still felt pain and was shut down by the Spurs... Whose doctors agreed with the better doctors in NY
Like they took care of Shaq and Odom?
Different cir stances. With Shaq, he had gotten all fat and out of shape (remember 2003 - when our 4peat bid ended)? I put that solely on him. He wanted an extension to boot and cussed out Dr. Buss. Of course we got rid of him.
Odom? Melted down when he was traded in an attempt to upgrade the roster and extend our contending window. Remember, he was inconsistent at best until MVPau showed up and relegated him to a 3rd wheel. Sure he won 6MOY, but he even ed about the idea of going to the bench, but Phil convinced him. Then he thrived. But it makes one wonder, a guy with his immense talents NEVER made even 1 all star team? Back to your point, we traded him to a good situation. His meltdown was on himPERIOD.
They paid him for years served and "thanked him" for all of the millions he's brought to the Buss family wallet. Remember, there are Kobe stans and Laker fans. These two aren't always mutually exclusive.
Lots of players come back from an injury and have to resume therapy. This chicken healed and stayed awol all the while cashing Spurs checks and having his handlers throw shade on the Spurs.
Right? And they’re really going to take care of a carpetbagger like LeBron?
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