Losing in 2003 is all on Shaq? What about Kobe jacking up 26.5 shots a game when he was shooting a scrub ass 43% in the Spurs series? Convenient how you left out 2004 when the Pistons' whole defense was based on just letting Kobe throw the game. He cussed out Buss because Buss wasn't going to pay him, he was taking the side of captain rapist instead of the guy who won him three les.
I’ll take Ingram in a heart beat. He’s 20 years old and hasn’t even grown into his body yet. He does it all pretty good for a 20 year old and played PG at the second half of the season he’s definitely a great prospect. If we trade Kawhi we need to get either Ingram or Tatum in return.
you are dug in with your Kobe vitriol, but I'll indulge you.
What about Shaq letting 85 year old Kevin Willis consistently beat him up and down the court? His fatass not only didn't "guard the yard" he couldn't even stop Kevin T-Rex arms Willis. PATHETIC.
You are partially correct in 2004. Kobe is gonna be Kobe. He takes some blame. But the biggest story is the Mailman went down and never was healthy again. That left us with Slava having to contend with the Wallace bros. And it didn't help that Shaq's fatass only played one side of the court.
Now I am pissed about Kobe tryna beat a game Tashawn Prince one on one, but at least he was putting forth effort. He always empties his clip and leaves it all on the floor. Shaq? Not so much.
I'd take those young guys in LA an Randle in a sign an trade. Those young long guys an Pop could do damage with our draft picks. Kawhi could get hurt again or Labron. That dude is due for a serious injury. Can't no one never suffer from some kinda injury. I'd take that young core in a heartbeat.
And Isaac Bonga too! (Lakers 2nd rd pick this year, from Frankfurt)
Feels like I´ve never been so close to witness a german Spur since Ademola Okulaja playing summer league in 2003
EDIT: Bonga just confirmed, he will play summer league for the Lakers
If true that is just weak on LeBron's part. His team just beat your butt in the NBA Finals and you think he is foaming from the mouth to join you in La La Land.
If the Spurs are smart they wait it out. He's under contract for another year. Wait at least until LeBron James decided where he is going. You don't owe anyone any favors. This sort of decision for the Spurs will have a huge impact on the franchise for years to come so why rush it?
If LeBron wants to play with Kawhi on the same team so bad just keep Kawhi and see if you can sign LeBron. If you can't than just trade Kawhi at the NBA trade deadline and get what you can for him if he plans on walking. It would be a smart move by the Spurs, also Spurs should try and make a trade or sign a player to please Kawhi.
Only trade Kawhi now if you are 100% certain he is walking and the relationship can't be fixed and some ridiculous offer comes your way from an NBA team for him.
Otherwise like you said he is under contract with the Spurs for next season and he has to play.
If Kawhi doesn't get traded, my idea is this. Increase the minutes of the rookies and young fellas and tank. This way if Kawhi leaves at least we will still have a high draft pick. LOL!!
absolutly right +1
Or do the opposite. Play him 48 a night in a 00's Suns style offense. Run him into the ground so he's a s of himself by the time he leaves.
But then he'd just fake another injury to get of playing.
While unlikely, the Spurs could always make him play the whole season out and still recoup something for him next offseason if the only way of getting to the Lakers is him opting in and being traded like CP3. But that would cost him even more money in that year (they would get his Bird rights though).
It would let the Spurs also attempt to repair the relationship and let him requalify for the supermax.
I actually love the idea. Simultaneously walker, white and Murray gain valuable experience and then Spurs draft the next generational goat talent.
The Spurs should’ve accepted the proposed Tobias Harris and two 1st round picks from the Clippers. Now they’re stuck between a Brandon Ingram and a draft pick package from the Lakers or take Kyrie Irving who will also enter FA in 2 years.
well thats just incorrect
That's the bottom line. If you don't get one of those two (or an equivalent) there's not enough to lose by standing pat.
Let Kawhi retire and play your hand out to the trading deadline.
Ainge is not trading Tatum, get real
Exactly! Provided that the snake doesn't fake another injury, of course.
Pretty sure this was the original stance from the FO - stay, play, prove your health, qualify for the DPE and you'll get it next year. If this offer is on the table and the alternative is 80 mil less from another team he'll sign it.
If the Spurs remain patient, they will make out better than that. Let it drag out if the offers aren't up to par yet. Spurs can't rush this, even if they get tired of it.
Absolutely. I've heard a few times that the Spurs really want LeBron and are willing to go over the cap to acquire him. I honestly don't think LeBron wants to come to San Antonio though. I hope I'm wrong. If he wants to to win, he talks to Kawhi and tries to convince him to stay so that they can play together here in San Antonio.
That's a pipe dream, but who knows. Back to Kawhi though...the Spurs should only be hearing offers at this time. They don't really need to engage or initiate trade talks. Wait it out.
If we do trade Kawai, we might as well trade LaMarcus, Gasol, Green, not bring back Parker and let Manu retire. Burn down everything and wash it away. Erode the entire thing down to the dirt and work its way back up. Lonnie Walker is the first piece adding to Murray that the Spurs have going further. Take your time to acquire / accrue younger players that fit what Pop wants to work with and start over. This does not include broken down overrated shoot only non defenders like Kyrie Irving and a white baller who cannot stay healthy who only hits threes in Gordon Hayward.
"Too much turnover" as ST intelligentsia likes to say.
Basicially, Pop wants to do the least amount of coaching as possible. Although I am with you on burning this down.
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