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    The Spurs should’ve accepted the proposed Tobias Harris and two 1st round picks from the Clippers. Now they’re stuck between a Brandon Ingram and a draft pick package from the Lakers or take Kyrie Irving who will also enter FA in 2 years.
    Yuk. Those picks are pointless. Harris is crap.

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    Yuk. Those picks are pointless. Harris is crap.
    Harris gives you a player that can help the Spurs win now and continue their tradition of making a trip to the postseason. I have zero doubts the Spurs FO would also find gems at #12 and 13. It’s far better than Ingram.

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    But he's a disgruntled star, like Pau was a decade ago. Plus he has made it clear he wants to don the P&G. No GM in their right mind will give up significant assets for a potential 1-year rental. Sure, he's worth more but given all the variables involved, Spurs PATFO is in a tough spot.

    Can't bring him to camp because he's disgruntled and you can't just let him walk. For example, D12 walked and we got nothing in return...set us back 5 years (and counting). Can the Spurs afford NOT to trade him?

    And who cares where he's traded to if I'm Spur fan. I'd want PATFO to get the best deal possible to jumpstart the rebuild tbh.
    Kawhi is a superstar. There are only 4-6 of those in the league.

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    Wow NBA tweeted it out before the Spurs? LOL

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    Harris gives you a player that can help the Spurs win now and continue their tradition of making a trip to the postseason. I have zero doubts the Spurs FO would also find gems at #12 and 13. It’s far better than Ingram.
    That would have been a terrible deal, KL for Tobias?

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    Kawhi is a superstar.
    Career stats:
    16.3 ppg
    6.2 reb
    2.3 assists

    Oh, and injury prone, and lacks leadership skills.

    Superstars ain't what they used to be ...

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    Career stats:
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    2.3 assists

    Oh, and injury prone, and lacks leadership skills.

    Superstars ain't what they used to be ...
    He's a superstar whether you like it or not. Finals MVP, back to back DPOY, All NBA.

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    Kawhi is a superstar. There are only 4-6 of those in the league.
    So was Shaq in 2004. We got pennies on the dollar for him because Mitch refused to trade him in the Western Conference where there was better talent to be had.

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    Wow NBA tweeted it out before the Spurs? LOL

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    I don’t see how SA not wishing Kawhi happy birthday could be viewed as a slight when Kawhi is not a social media person. It’s not like he was on social media like other players celebrating SA’s milestones or congratulating his teammates for making the playoffs, etc..,right?

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    healthy Gallinari is better than any Saric ever
    I actually like Saric but he is like a euro less athletic Kuz.
    Its funny how similar players Ingram-Brown ...Ingram is trash.
    Saric-Kuzma Kuz is trash.

    Personally IF spurs dont value our core id rather hold on to them including Ingram. The ringer staff is sull of Celts/Sixers fans (but based out of L.A.) here is their take on Ingram vs. Brown

    ould you rather have Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram?

    This is probably the question San Antonio is asking itself right now. According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, the Spurs are in Kawhi trade talks with L.A. and Boston. “Boston has long had the assets that the Spurs most covet in a potential Leonard trade,” Woj tacked onto the end of his scoop.

    Gregg Popovich’s roster is full of male pattern baldness and orthopedic Skechers. Without Leonard, the Spurs will most likely pivot from building around a superstar in his prime to going young. Brown and Ingram are both prototypical, full-of-potential Pop projects.

    Brown made the larger sop re leap, though his playing time also doubled as a result of Gordon Hayward’s injury. His shooting and confidence improved, and he was the more consistent of the two. But I lean toward preferring Ingram because of what he does in flashes. His 7-foot-3 wingspan gives him the scoring ability to finish over defenders—with that slender frame, he’s not going through them—and give them trouble on the other end. You have to listen when the words “point forward” are mentioned, especially when the same player can also shoot; that possibility gives Ingram the higher ceiling.

    Play-making matters. Especially since Spurs are light on them ... but I dont really want t o give up Ingram. IF we were assured Ingram still comes anyways I wouldn't sell farm for KL.

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    I actually like Saric but he is like a euro less athletic Kuz.
    Its funny how similar players Ingram-Brown ...Ingram is trash.
    Saric-Kuzma Kuz is trash.

    Personally IF spurs dont value our core id rather hold on to them including Ingram. The ringer staff is sull of Celts/Sixers fans (but based out of L.A.) here is their take on Ingram vs. Brown

    ould you rather have Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram?

    This is probably the question San Antonio is asking itself right now. According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, the Spurs are in Kawhi trade talks with L.A. and Boston. “Boston has long had the assets that the Spurs most covet in a potential Leonard trade,” Woj tacked onto the end of his scoop.

    Gregg Popovich’s roster is full of male pattern baldness and orthopedic Skechers. Without Leonard, the Spurs will most likely pivot from building around a superstar in his prime to going young. Brown and Ingram are both prototypical, full-of-potential Pop projects.

    Brown made the larger sop re leap, though his playing time also doubled as a result of Gordon Hayward’s injury. His shooting and confidence improved, and he was the more consistent of the two. But I lean toward preferring Ingram because of what he does in flashes. His 7-foot-3 wingspan gives him the scoring ability to finish over defenders—with that slender frame, he’s not going through them—and give them trouble on the other end. You have to listen when the words “point forward” are mentioned, especially when the same player can also shoot; that possibility gives Ingram the higher ceiling.

    Play-making matters. Especially since Spurs are light on them ... but I dont really want t o give up Ingram. IF we were assured Ingram still comes anyways I wouldn't sell farm for KL.
    Sure, but taking bias out and looking at numbers and advanced impact, that is why people are saying things about Ingram/Kuz vs the others. Taking away anything but the data, they don’t compare well.

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    Kawhi is a superstar. There are only 4-6 of those in the league.
    when healthy.
    Been well over 13 months since we last seen "superstar" Kawhi ...

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    when healthy.
    Been well over 13 months since we last seen "superstar" Kawhi ...
    He’s healthy. Everyone knows it. If you are injured do you turn down 219M knowing you are damaged goods?

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    How about this?

    Spurs get: Miami's 2021 1st, Orlando's 2019 1st, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Nikola Vucevic
    76ers get: Kawhi, Jonathon Simmons
    Magic get: Markelle Fultz, Pau Gasol

    The Spurs get a couple of good picks and some pieces to stay compe ive with Pop and LMA still around. Philly gets Kawhi and Simmons (who iirc were buddies when they were both in SA). Orlando gets a PG other than DJ Augustin. They do take on Pau's contract but maybe it's a small price to pay for a former 1st pick in Fultz.
    I like that alot

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    Harris gives you a player that can help the Spurs win now and continue their tradition of making a trip to the postseason. I have zero doubts the Spurs FO would also find gems at #12 and 13. It’s far better than Ingram.
    The Spurs had Lonnie Walker pretty high, so one of those clippers picks is him. There other would be miles Bridges or Michael Portets, zhaire Smith, or divensio. Then we have 18 still. I don't think this is much better than the other packages we'd get

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    This is like trying to select the top turd on a pile of .

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    I don’t see how SA not wishing Kawhi happy birthday could be viewed as a slight when Kawhi is not a social media person. It’s not like he was on social media like other players celebrating SA’s milestones or congratulating his teammates for making the playoffs, etc..,right?
    My injury was 100 times worse! I wouldn't support that French bum either.

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    I don’t see how SA not wishing Kawhi happy birthday could be viewed as a slight when Kawhi is not a social media person. It’s not like he was on social media like other players celebrating SA’s milestones or congratulating his teammates for making the playoffs, etc..,right?
    @HoustonRockets wrote a tweet today, and didn`t congratulate @TheJoeJohnson7

    spurs - on the other hand - wasn´t even active yet today...

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    Kyrie Irving is hardly a role player.
    I didn't know the Celtics offered him.

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    I don’t see how SA not wishing Kawhi happy birthday could be viewed as a slight when Kawhi is not a social media person. It’s not like he was on social media like other players celebrating SA’s milestones or congratulating his teammates for making the playoffs, etc..,right?
    Not saying you are wrong, but wouldn't you think that a team trying to retain its franchise player would publicly wish him a happy birthday anyway? Might not move the needle but still a good sentiment - being the classy org the Spurs are supposed to be. Maybe that's just me.

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    Sure, but taking bias out and looking at numbers and advanced impact, that is why people are saying things about Ingram/Kuz vs the others. Taking away anything but the data, they don’t compare well.
    As rookies Saric's PER was 12.8
    Kuzma's PEr was 14.2

    Like I said similar ...but Kuz's was better even if you factor in Saric's jump last year he is only at 14.8 career wise ...

    Jaylen Brown after his "breakout year" is sitting on a PER of 12.3
    Ingram is sitting on 11. after a a mostly wasted rookie year and as HArlem states only two months of good ball.

    Not saying numbers dont point to brown being better he is but he is also a year older and played on a much betetr team in the crappy east.
    Pretty sure Ingram with the celts would match or surpass those numbers.
    Look I am projecting forward but I think in 3 years both will be very good players but I think Ingram has more upside.

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