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    Pop likely doesn't want to spend his last season or two rebuilding.

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    Shooting was straight garbage last season and Beli is a proven shooter.
    Yep. How many times last year did this board ask collectively for more/better shooters??

    Now you get a former Spur, and solid locker room guy that can shoot lights out on a great contract and people want to !!??

    This place...

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    I'm sure SA might be aware of stuff behind the scenes which is why they signed him. He knows the system and is a much needed offensive threat. Whether people are leaving or retiring, they probably have a sense of what's going on...

    Let's wait and see what else unfolds.

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    Yep. How many times last year did this board ask collectively for more/better shooters??

    Now you get a former Spur, and solid locker room guy that can shoot lights out on a great contract and people want to !!??

    This place...
    Yea.. and at a fair price at that.

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    Yep. How many times last year did this board ask collectively for more/better shooters??

    Now you get a former Spur, and solid locker room guy that can shoot lights out on a great contract and people want to !!??

    This place...
    Preach my nig

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    So when is Bobo coming back?

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    Yep. How many times last year did this board ask collectively for more/better shooters??

    Now you get a former Spur, and solid locker room guy that can shoot lights out on a great contract and people want to !!??

    This place...
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    Belli assigning was a plan & put in place because Manu is retiring this offseason. They needed a vet they can trust and whom has been in the system. Plus his game to a degree matches what Manu brought to a degree,

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    Yep. How many times last year did this board ask collectively for more/better shooters??

    Now you get a former Spur, and solid locker room guy that can shoot lights out on a great contract and people want to !!??

    This place...
    Nah. First, Beli being a "former Spur" was always a mixed bag. Most of us didn't miss him. Second, why if Marco a good locker-room guy? Third, his contract sucks.

    If Marco were coming in as a camp invite or something, that would be fine. But the team had real holes this summer, and Beli coming in with Green and possibly Manu returning is just not what needed to happen at the wing spots. Getting a guard who can break down a defense, a forward who can defend or a big who can compete with Gasol for minutes were just much more important. They got a shooting two-guard in the draft, and if they don't think he can do that, they could have gone with Hueter or Shamet. You don't use the MLE on Beli -- again.
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    Nah. First, Beli being a "former Spur" was always a mixed bag. Most of us didn't miss him. Second, why if Marco a good locker-room guy? Third, his contract sucks.

    If Marco were coming in as a camp invite or something, that would be fine. But the team had real holes this summer, and Beli coming in with Green and possibly Manu returning is just not what needed to happen at the wing spots. Getting a guard who can break down a defense, a forward who can defend or a big who can compete with Gasol for minutes were just much more important. They got a shooting two-guard in the draft, and if they don't think he can do that, they could have gone with Hueter or Shamet. You don't use the MLE on Beli -- again.
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    Marco value actually went up with his play last season in Philly.... He even gave the SPURS a small discount.. He would have fetched upwards of 7-8 mil per from 2-3 other teams.

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    Marco value actually went up with his play last season in Philly.... He even gave the SPURS a small discount.. He would have fetched upwards of 7-8 mil per from 2-3 other teams.
    stop..

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    Guess Pop was tired of his players being nutless and not making big shots.

    Also goodbye Brandon Paul (and probably Bryn Forbes)

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    Marco value actually went up with his play last season in Philly.... He even gave the SPURS a small discount.. He would have fetched upwards of 7-8 mil per from 2-3 other teams.
    No. He was overpaid. Marco played in the NBA Finals and had a decent showing against Brooklyn the year before that. The league already knows who he is. That's why he's been passed around like a joint his whole career.

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    . If Manu comes back, this off-season just gets worse and worse.
    If Manu come back this off-season just gets better (and I already think it's gonna be good).


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    Maybe Manu told Pop he isnt coming back without Ferrari.


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    I think this gives some indication as to the direction the front office is taking; I think they are planning to keep Kawhi at all costs and try and repair the relationship this year. Only way this move makes sense.
    I agree, except it most likely will coincide with Parker no longer playing in a Spurs uniform. Maybe he will be one of the former allstars the Lakers go after.

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    If this signing tells you nothing else, nevermind the positive impact he should bring for spacing and shot making, it's this:

    Spurs clearly had a malignant presence in their locker room last year. PATFO is doubling down on their theory that you bring in the right kind of unselfish, team-first, veteran leaders as the first phase of building a winning team.

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    If this signing tells you nothing else, nevermind the positive impact he should bring for spacing and shot making, it's this:

    Spurs clearly had a malignant presence in their locker room last year. PATFO is doubling down on their theory that you bring in the right kind of unselfish, team-first, veteran leaders as the first phase of building a winning team.
    Why do you keep ascribing all of these great traits to Marco? Dude doesn't seem like a bad person, but he's not Patty or anything. I started calling out the chemistry issues way early last year, so you don't have to sell me on the part about it being bad. But the team had enough good locker-room presences already, provided they didn't bring any bad seeds in a Leonard trade.

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    Why do you keep ascribing all of these great traits to Marco? Dude doesn't seem like a bad person, but he's not Patty or anything. I started calling out the chemistry issues way early last year, so you don't have to sell me on the part about it being bad. But the team had enough good locker-room presences already, provided they didn't bring any bad seeds in a Leonard trade.
    He was a founding member of the beautiful game society that made all of our spines tingle when we rang in '14.

    The real question is what do you have against a former Spur like him that is only being paid an avg of $6M? His contract is easily tradable if we are out of the hunt next February and in the interim, he only brings positivity and clutch shooting--something we DID NOT have last year.

    How many games could we have won last year with even one more three ball?

    Come on man. You're being way overly critical (crotchety, I might even say) about this.

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    Spurs adding a lot of veteran players. Possibility of Signing Lebron.

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    He was a founding member of the beautiful game society that made all of our spines tingle when we rang in '14.
    The Beautiful Game had been a thing for years before Marco joined. Beli wasn't ever more than a bit piece in that puzzle.

    The real question is what do you have against a former Spur like him that is only being paid an avg of $6M? His contract is easily tradable if we are out of the hunt next February and in the interim, he only brings positivity and clutch shooting--something we DID NOT have last year.
    I listed them already in a response to you. He's overpaid and sucks. He sucked when he was a Spur too, but he was making less than $3 Million a year back then and was allowed to be a near the bottom or the rotation, so it wasn't a big deal?

    How many games could we have won last year with even one more three ball?
    Is Beli just coming in for one-possession stints in your mind? In mine, he's going to at least play some minutes, which means his D is going to end up wrecking the Spurs.

    Come on man. You're being way overly critical (crotchety, I might even say) about this.
    You could say that about any signing. If they maxed out Anderson, would you be in here calling us grouches for not loving it? I'm not saying you're a homer or can't criticize PATFO, but damn. Beli sucks. Everyone knows he sucks. I'm pretty disgusted that they brought him back.

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    Nah. First, Beli being a "former Spur" was always a mixed bag. Most of us didn't miss him. Second, why if Marco a good locker-room guy? Third, his contract sucks.

    If Marco were coming in as a camp invite or something, that would be fine. But the team had real holes this summer, and Beli coming in with Green and possibly Manu returning is just not what needed to happen at the wing spots. Getting a guard who can break down a defense, a forward who can defend or a big who can compete with Gasol for minutes were just much more important. They got a shooting two-guard in the draft, and if they don't think he can do that, they could have gone with Hueter or Shamet. You don't use the MLE on Beli -- again.
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    Glad to have Marco back whoooooo!! Haters gon hate

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    Damn, Chinook regulating the out of this thread.

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    The Beautiful Game had been a thing for years before Marco joined. Beli wasn't ever more than a bit piece in that puzzle.

    He was an occasional starter, and first guy off the bench for most of the season along with Manu. And Pop often left him in in the final crunch time of games.


    I listed them already in a response to you. He's overpaid and sucks. He sucked when he was a Spur too, but he was making less than $3 Million a year back then and was allowed to be a near the bottom or the rotation, so it wasn't a big deal?

    The $6M is very in line with a second team guy. And other teams would have paid him that. I bet Philly would have paid him something similar if they were more certain with their offseason moves.

    Is Beli just coming in for one-possession stints in your mind? In mine, he's going to at least play some minutes, which means his D is going to end up wrecking the Spurs.

    He was no more a defensive liability than Mills

    You could say that about any signing. If they maxed out Anderson, would you be in here calling us grouches for not loving it? I'm not saying you're a homer or can't criticize PATFO, but damn. Beli sucks. Everyone knows he sucks. I'm pretty disgusted that they brought him back.
    Agree to disagree man. Also, we need some vets around these young guys that reinforce the notion of pass to the open guy...the beautiful game foundation.
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    To be honest, I don't think we will be sacrificing much in regards to Marco's defense if he can make some shots.

    The lack of offensive capability on the team this past season was ing offensive and our biggest problem, overall.

    Plus, Marco has cajones, which we were also severely lacking, which is not unrelated to the missed open shots. We needed someone with a little moxie to their personality.

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