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  1. #376
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    Thank that dude MVPatty for that 2014 Playoffs.

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    Why is it that practically every Spurfan hated Neal but loves Belli?

    They're the same type of player, and it can be argued that Neal was a better shooter/scorer and that his '13 playoffs were more impressive than Belli's '14 playoffs.

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    Looks like re s here haven't learned their lesson. Still overvaluing defense in today's NBA especially scrubs that can't score to save their garbage lives

    You ain't outscoring the Rockets and Warriors with Fathead, Murray, and Green.
    lol talk about contradictions.

    What current NBA taught us is that you need two way players. Players that are decent at many different things are better than players that excel at one thing but suck in many others.

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    2014 Playoffs even when pop hiding his blackhole ass.

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    I already said I'm talking for the RS. We have to temper our expectations without Kawhi.

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    We get a much needed void filled with shooting and it's someone who knows the system/way and its dirt cheap as far as deals go and "fans" doing ST schtick depression and anger and rage schticks. Never change, ST zealots.
    This Pretty Much! Marco is a good deal. And a good player. And has gotten better since we had him. And he brings a skill we badly missed last year.

    This team without Kawhi is top4 in the West right now.

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    The guys will definitely be happy that he’s back. The team needs better shooting so I understand it but it makes me wonder what’s happening with their guard rotation for sure.
    Someone is either retiring or getting traded.
    Hopefully two retirements.

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    Big balls Beli is back?

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    Why is it that practically every Spurfan hated Neal but loves Belli?

    They're the same type of player, and it can be argued that Neal was a better shooter/scorer and that his '13 playoffs were more impressive than Belli's '14 playoffs.
    Not sure if that's relevant, to begin with, and I valued Neal as much as I value Marco, but most Spurs fans associate Marco with Manu and Marco gets that Manu love, and I think that's what explains it.

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    Not sure if that's relevant, to begin with, and I valued Neal as much as I value Marco, but most Spurs fans associate Marco with Manu and Marco gets that Manu love, and I think that's what explains it.
    Not you specifically, but really it's because most fans are dumb and associate each player with a singular play, imo.

    With Neal it's a shoe-less Mike Miller scoring a three over him which confirms to people that he was a bad defender. With Belli's it's his "huge" shot to stop Miami's rally in Game 3 which confirms to people that he is capable of hitting big shots. In reality, they're the exact same player. I don't think Manu has anything to do with it.

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    I tried to trick myself into thinking 12 mils for 2 years isn't that bad, but then it struck me that this will probably cost us Bertans and/or Anderson. Add that to the fact that this probably means Walker and/or White will get no playing time, and this is a very bad signing.

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    An absurd signing by a front office that continues to show they've jumped the shark. Even if Ginobili is retiring and they plan to include either Green or Mills in a Leonard trade, they still didn't need a guard. Now White and Bertans (if retained) will have to compete for a rotation spot, while Walker is blocked. And if they're stupid enough to trade Leonard to the Lakers, Kuzma will take the White/Bertans spot.

    Once again, either promising young players will be blocked by a defenseless, limited, aging player or they'll be playing nonsensical lineups, trying in vain to accommodate both simultaneously.

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    We have so many guards, I believe we have ten now plus Kawhi can bring the ball up.
    Parker
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    Belinelli
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    Wow...

    There's got to be some that will not be back for sure ...

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    He hit a huge shot in Game 3 against Miami that killed their rally.
    This

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    The Green vs Beli debate in 2014 was fun. Good old times
    Looks like it will be back.. Over 30 version.

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    Best argument against the Beli signing is that the Spurs jumped the gun and overpaid. They probably could have gotten him at like 3-4mil per if they had waited a day or two. I also would get the argument for holding out the entire MLE for somebody like Tyreke Evans even thought I've never really been high on him.

    But i don't get how he eats into Walker's minutes. Walker was a longshot to see any meaningful minutes especially since the Spurs plan to be compe ive these next couple of years with or without Kawhi.

    The eating into the 2019 capspace also makes zero sense to me. Who's coming to the Spurs next season after the Kawhi drama and Pop at most having 1 season left? Kawhi and Pop are literally the only reasons a big name Free Agent would come play for the Spurs

    Worst case scenario, you trade Beli like his last 3 teams have done

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    Hopefully two retirements.
    Signing Marco seems like a signal that Manu is hangin' em up.

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    And if signing Beli means no more Fathead even better, considering RC would have probably give 8mil for 4 years for that slow

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    And if signing Beli means no more Fathead even better, considering RC would have probably give 8mil for 4 years for that slow
    They are matching on fathead unless he gets some crazy Hardaway Knicks contract. Book it, sorry.

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    Best argument against the Beli signing is that the Spurs jumped the gun and overpaid. They probably could have gotten him at like 3-4mil per if they had waited a day or two. I also would get the argument for holding out the entire MLE for somebody like Tyreke Evans even thought I've never really been high on him.

    But i don't get how he eats into Walker's minutes. Walker was a longshot to see any meaningful minutes especially since the Spurs plan to be compe ive these next couple of years with or without Kawhi.

    The eating into the 2019 capspace also makes zero sense to me. Who's coming to the Spurs next season after the Kawhi drama and Pop at most having 1 season left? Kawhi and Pop are literally the only reasons a big name Free Agent would come play for the Spurs

    Worst case scenario, you trade Beli like his last 3 teams have done
    Well, that's a ing mistake.

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    Well, that's a ing mistake.
    I don't disagree but it's ing Pop. If it's any consolation, Walker and Beli look like they play different roles. Walker looks like a shot creating guard while Beli is strictly a spot up shooter wing tbh.

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    Best argument against the Beli signing is that the Spurs jumped the gun and overpaid. They probably could have gotten him at like 3-4mil per if they had waited a day or two. I also would get the argument for holding out the entire MLE for somebody like Tyreke Evans even thought I've never really been high on him.

    But i don't get how he eats into Walker's minutes. Walker was a longshot to see any meaningful minutes especially since the Spurs plan to be compe ive these next couple of years with or without Kawhi.

    The eating into the 2019 capspace also makes zero sense to me. Who's coming to the Spurs next season after the Kawhi drama and Pop at most having 1 season left? Kawhi and Pop are literally the only reasons a big name Free Agent would come play for the Spurs

    Worst case scenario, you trade Beli like his last 3 teams have done
    The difference is, instead of being an injury or Parker rest game away, he's now buried.

    I know he only played 1 year in college, but he's probably their best prospect since Leonard and they're supposedly on the verge of a re-tool. I don't expect him to pull a Mitc , but they should have at least left the door ajar for that (slim) possibility.

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    Marco value actually went up with his play last season in Philly.... He even gave the SPURS a small discount.. He would have fetched upwards of 7-8 mil per from 2-3 other teams.

    Exactly. He does his job. Shooters get paid and are always wanted.

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    belli gets buckets and thats something spursies were lacking last year.

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    I tried to trick myself into thinking 12 mils for 2 years isn't that bad, but then it struck me that this will probably cost us Bertans and/or Anderson. Add that to the fact that this probably means Walker and/or White will get no playing time, and this is a very bad signing.
    Lol talk about contradictions

    You trash on Beli for being useless on one side of the ball, but want Bertans (who's trash on defense and rebounding) and Anderson (who sucks at literally everything offensively)

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    Lol talk about contradictions

    You trash on Beli for being useless on one side of the ball, but want Bertans (who's trash on defense and rebounding) and Anderson (who sucks at literally everything offensively)
    Bertans and Anderson are both average to above average on both sides of the floor. Yeah, it would help if Anderson could shoot for and Bertans could rebound according to his size. But they still do other things that allow them to not be liabilities on either side of the ball. Belli is totally useless on D.

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