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pop is a liberal not a conservative by the way rascal
I called it. Me.
Uncle Dennis surely reads my posts and has done exactly what I said he'd do. Publicly request a trade to the Lakers if the Spurms were trying to play hardball.
pop is a liberal not a conservative by the way rascal
The Spurs did not want to trade Leonard. That is the bottom line to it. There were good trade packages available had the spurs been more aggressive in wanting to trade him. Phil traded their number 10 draft pick to Phoenix so they could have worked out a package with Phil and even Cleveland should have been desperate to keep James so a deal with them for the 8th pick and a player was still better than what the spurs are going to end up. Even the Clipper deal is better than what they are going to get back later.
I am not talking politics of Pop but the conservative nature of thinking for the franchise.
Not making a trade and keeping things the same is the conservative approach.
what good or great trade deal did spurs turn down?
The trades they did not try to make are the trades they lost on. It is known the Spurs did not want to trade Leonard and were not putting out offers themselves but just listening to offers from other teams.
I like how they are making his ass wait. Let him feel the uncertainty his prolonged absence gave the team the entire season. They were going to trade him, but the are getting a second opinion. Plus that Tobias Harris clipper deal ain’t going nowhere anytime soon.
This is where Kawhi could have saved face. He could have gone to Pop before trade deadline and said look I’m sorry but I don’t want to be here (I believe he knew that back then but Supermax made him not so sure). Pop could have them quietly pursued a good trade package
kawhi saying he didn’t like being fronted by the team is weak ass BS. He’s just searching for thing to justify him leaving. And for the record, I’m not butt hurt if he doesn’t want to be here. What pisses me off is the fact he’s throwing the entire organization under the bus on the way out... not cool
Great take! I agree!
trade leonard, trade aldridge for future picks(and you know whomever he's going to they are lottery bound again), tank next year. Get the 1st pick(Williamson) and another lottery pick on top of what you have and we'd be contenders again real soon. But I know Popovich has too much pride to miss the playoffs and tank for future les because the future of the team has no weight on his legacy. He'd rather keep making the playoffs every year getting put out of the first round so the media can keep sucking his about a 20+ year playoff run. that Leonard , we need to be worried about the FUTURE. We aint winning any les or even be in the hunt for them any time soon if we don't start building. And I aint talking about building around Mills, Aldridge, Gasol, and Rudy Gay
Your strategy of tanking is not fool proof. It could take multiple years of tanking much like what the Sixers did before the Spurs could ever get a number 1 pick that is worthy of being a superstar. I remember my home team the Hornets tanking to get Anthony Davis several years ago and they had the worst record. Despite having the worst record they still ended up with the second pick which turned out to be Kidd-Gill Christ. Also look at the Celtics back in '97. They tanked harder than the Spurs and we saw how that ended up.
true, but if you don't get the first pick, you still get in the top 3 or 4 and we are a very good team at drafting even late in the first round. Sometimes, it helps when teams don't have the FIRST pick because in 2007, everyone was tanking for Greg Oden. I don't care what Seattle(okc) says, they would have picked him too had they got the first pick. So you're right about that number 1 pick, but a team like the Spurs can't go wrong with 2 picks in the top 10 on top of what they get for Leonard and Aldridge.
Spurs were losing money even when they reached the WCF. They can't afford to tank even if they wanted to.
Timing has to be right for even a top 5 pick. When I mean timing it has to do with the draft class. Some draft classes are super strong while others can be pretty ty.
Any scenario that s over Tragic Johnson and the Lakers while also sending this piece of quitting crap Kawhi to anywhere other than L.A. will be a success in my eyes at this point.
The Spurs were NEVER EVER getting anything close to equal value and it would all be a crap shoot with rookies anyways. It looks like if Boston once offered Brown or Tatum then that would have been the best move for them.
I hope they aren't ready to send the guy off and have urgency to do so. I hope R.C. is playing the rest of these teams for assholes and make them scramble and panic.
If I see Leonard is traded soon and ends up with LeBron in Los Angeles then I will be pissed at this point. Thre is no need to trade him. If they have to I would rather see him sit out or make it very uncomfortable for him. What is he going to do? Set fire to the AT&T Center or burn down people's houses if he doesn't get his way?
I want Kawhi to go ahead and throw his tantrum on Aisle 9 at H-E-B and roll all over the floor crying until he is done.
Correct. The worst time to do a deal is now when someone is banking on a false sense of urgency to get your best asset at a heavily discounted price. Urgency on the Lakers' part is not the same on the Spurs' part. Especially when what they are supposedly missing out on is dog .
That much is obvious at this point, they went high risk (ironically) by trying to reason with him and His Camp. It kind of blew up in their faces after the whole Team Meeting thing
They can afford to tank with Bezos' money in Seattle:
I was right.
at the panicking. Spurs are the ones holding the asset. The longer they hold, the higher the chance a team will cave. The Sixers don't want the Lakers getting Leonard if they can get him first, the Lakers don't want the Sixers possibly convincing Leonard to stay, and other teams out there get more desperate by the day to land a top 5 player entering his prime.
Plus all this time, Leonard and co. get more desperate as they don't want to start the next season looking like gigantic es by sitting Leonard out. They played it poorly from the start by trying to force a trade to the Lakers. That tanked Leonard's value to the Lakers because that made they greedy and emboldened and caused the Spurs to not want to pull the trigger. Leonard's camp will get desperate enough and be open to other options to get him off the Spurs.
The Spurs aren't getting any value back for Leonard now after James has gone to LA, as teams are not going to give top assets for a player who publicly has already said he wants to play for the Lakers.
Plus all this time, Leonard and co. get more desperate as they don't want to start the next season looking like gigantic es by sitting Leonard out. They played it poorly from the start by trying to force a trade to the Lakers. That tanked Leonard's value to the Lakers because that made they greedy and emboldened and caused the Spurs to not want to pull the trigger. Leonard's camp will get desperate enough and be open to other options to get him off the Spurs.
This minute is Kahwi...highest value....or he sits out.
One of the biggest issues about this whole situation is that Leonard hasn't publicly said anything. Ever story out there has an opposite contradicting it. Calm down. Spurs still hold as many cards as they did last week.
don't be naive, Kiwi's camp knows what they are doing through their leaks.
Lebron is leaving 2019 cap space open for a reason with these 1 year deals - either Kiwi walks to them in 2019 or it forces PATFO to accept much weaker deal. One way or another Kiwi will be a Laker in one year's time.
U talking about that 5 year 139 max? lol
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