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    "You Better Shoot Straight"

    Some Democrats in Congress are caught up in a debate over whether members of the Trump administration deserve to be left blissfully alone when they're off the clock and not defending a wannabe-autocrat. They don't. One congresswoman, Maxine Waters, has no time for that conversation. Waters isn't interested in the performative hand-wringing over the "death of civility," as though American politics have ever been about mutual respect and not compe ion over resources and who counts as a real person in the eyes of the law.

    Waters has been unequivocal on the issue, calling for people to confront and protest members of the Trump administration any time they feel shameless enough to appear in public. This drew swift condemnation from Trump and his enablers at Fox News, who invented claims that Waters was calling for violence. Unsurprisingly, after she was singled out by Trump, Waters began receiving death threats, some of which were so credible that they forced her to cancel public appearances in Texas and Alabama.

    But on Saturday, Waters appeared in front of the Los Angeles city hall to speak at one of the dozens of rallies across the country protesting the Trump administration's draconian treatment of immigrant families at the US-Mexico border. She did not mince words:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/maxine-wa...172847272.html

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    Sounds like some Dems want her to shut up - maybe you aren't one of them, maybe you condone harassing people eating out with their family, going to the movies or filling up their gas tank.

    Note: under no cir stances do I agree with death threats against anyone - people on both sides need to tone it down.

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    She's been great for the Conservative movement.

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    Sounds like some Dems want her to shut up - maybe you aren't one of them, maybe you condone harassing people eating out with their family, going to the movies or filling up their gas tank.

    Note: under no cir stances do I agree with death threats against anyone - people on both sides need to tone it down.
    (shrugs)

    If a woman can't get a routine pap smear from Planned Parenthood, without someone screaming at her about burning in , I'm not overly sympathetic about Stephen Miller not being able to eat a salad in peace.

    Dunno. Honestly not sure where the line for protest should be. Liberals have tried to take the high road, and got on by the likes of Bannon/Miller/Trump.

    I am mindful of the admonitions to Jews to be "civil" to the Nazi's in the 1930s. Not sure that civility is called for anymore. I want my horses back.

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    She's been great for the Conservative movement.
    Soooo oblivious.

    My thoughts:

    "Why is that Chris?"

    "She is saying so many things that prove our point, and make us mad, it's great for us".


    ... which is pretty much my take 100% on Trump. Best thing to happen to the Democratic party.

    You dip s will lie about anything she says anyway to suit your propaganda. Not sure if that really makes a s difference, other than to give ammunition to the morons who still think the two sides are equal.

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    Lol

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    Soooo oblivious.

    My thoughts:

    "Why is that Chris?"

    "She is saying so many things that prove our point, and make us mad, it's great for us".


    ... which is pretty much my take 100% on Trump. Best thing to happen to the Democratic party.

    You dip s will lie about anything she says anyway to suit your propaganda. Not sure if that really makes a s difference, other than to give ammunition to the morons who still think the two sides are equal.
    Yeah, the DNC going bankrupt and California going belly up have been great for the Democratic Party.

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    Queen Maxine want all the smoke. If you shoot, you better not miss. Talk that Maxine!

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    Yeah, the DNC going bankrupt and California going belly up have been great for the Democratic Party.
    CA going belly up? jerry brown is a POS but he did balance the budget

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    Soooo oblivious.

    My thoughts:

    "Why is that Chris?"

    "She is saying so many things that prove our point, and make us mad, it's great for us".


    ... which is pretty much my take 100% on Trump. Best thing to happen to the Democratic party.

    You dip s will lie about anything she says anyway to suit your propaganda. Not sure if that really makes a s difference, other than to give ammunition to the morons who still think the two sides are equal.
    lol after all of your meltdowns, mood swings, and flailing about you've decided to go with Trump winning was a really good thing for Democrats


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    CA going belly up? jerry brown is a POS but he did balance the budget
    "California added more than $200 billion in debt over the last decade. The only debt paid down was budgetary debt of ~$30 billion, a fraction of added debt of ~$250 billion."'

    http://fullertontaxpayers.org/2018/0...in-california/

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    "California added more than $200 billion in debt over the last decade. The only debt paid down was budgetary debt of ~$30 billion, a fraction of added debt of ~$250 billion."'

    http://fullertontaxpayers.org/2018/0...in-california/
    over the last decade.

    jerry brown entered office in 2011 when the state was facing huge deficits... that was piling on the debt. there have been a string of budget surpluses and debt has been slowly decreasing. though it's come off the backs of taxpayers



    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com...c2li111mcn_H0c

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    over the last decade.

    jerry brown entered office in 2011 when the state was facing huge deficits... that was piling on the debt. there have been a string of budget surpluses and debt has been slowly decreasing. though it's come off the backs of taxpayers



    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com...c2li111mcn_H0c
    Check out California's unfunded public employee pension liability.

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    Check out California's unfunded public employee pension liability.
    no

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    She's been great for the Conservative movement.
    Oh look Chris doesn't take too kind to when people do straight talk. Only mah Trump can do that!

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    Man allegedly threatens to chop up Rand Paul and his family with an ax

    On Both Sides

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    CA going belly up? jerry brown is a POS but he did balance the budget
    I will give him that. He did fix a mess when the stupid people of this state voted in an unqualified, hot dog colored muscle head as their Governor. Too bad he hasn't returned much funding to the school system that Schwartz cut.

    What I do find hypocritical is when Dem lickers, especially non CA residents who dont know what it's like here beyond what they read and hear, always point to those numbers and that "5th largest economy", which has been a top ten global economy for over 50 years and the surplus as if its helping anyone really. It's not. This state is losing jobs, has one of the worst homeless issues in the country and the largest wealth gap in the country. Its Chicago and Detroit blown up all over the entirety of a state.

    The only people winning in this state are the rich, the politicians who have given themselves a15% raise since this crook took office and the Dems touting these things that are basically the same thing as Trump touting the economy and the prosperity we are experiencing as a whole.

    You cant live the American dream of you dont come here with a minimum six digit savings account. There's no real path the Dems have for Mexicans aside to get their vote and Jerry Brown has been the Democratic version of Trump, just worst and more brazen with his abuse of power. But we're talking about Californians, they are really really stupid. They set the precedent for Trump to get voted in and that 5th largest economy is offset by being 36th in education and having 4 of the top 10 most under educated populations (municiplaities) in the country.

    No state in the union should be able to accommodate a comfortable living only for the top 1%. Seems very, very anti-Leftist.


    And, btw, Maxine Waters is a poverty pumping piece of .

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    Essentially. California politics and their politicians are equally unruly and pander to their crowds the same way Trump does, they just hurt their poor cons uents more.

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    No state in the union should be able to accommodate a comfortable living only for the top 1%. Seems very, very anti-Leftist.
    Idk about Cali but that sounds very very leftist tbh

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    I will give him that. He did fix a mess when the stupid people of this state voted in an unqualified, hot dog colored muscle head as their Governor. Too bad he hasn't returned much funding to the school system that Schwartz cut.

    What I do find hypocritical is when Dem lickers, especially non CA residents who dont know what it's like here beyond what they read and hear, always point to those numbers and that "5th largest economy", which has been a top ten global economy for over 50 years and the surplus as if its helping anyone really. It's not. This state is losing jobs, has one of the worst homeless issues in the country and the largest wealth gap in the country. Its Chicago and Detroit blown up all over the entirety of a state.

    The only people winning in this state are the rich, the politicians who have given themselves a15% raise since this crook took office and the Dems touting these things that are basically the same thing as Trump touting the economy and the prosperity we are experiencing as a whole.

    You cant live the American dream of you dont come here with a minimum six digit savings account. There's no real path the Dems have for Mexicans aside to get their vote and Jerry Brown has been the Democratic version of Trump, just worst and more brazen with his abuse of power. But we're talking about Californians, they are really really stupid. They set the precedent for Trump to get voted in and that 5th largest economy is offset by being 36th in education and having 4 of the top 10 most under educated populations (municiplaities) in the country.

    No state in the union should be able to accommodate a comfortable living only for the top 1%. Seems very, very anti-Leftist.


    And, btw, Maxine Waters is a poverty pumping piece of .
    i dont think brown's model is sustainable. he balanced the budget by hiking taxes to increase revenue... but californians were already paying high taxes.

    and yes, CA (particularly the big cities) is becoming a place that you have to be earning 6 figures if you have any aspirations of ever being a homeowner. it's nuts.

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    Another BLACK and a WOMAN in WH cross hairs

    Trump Is Illegally Using The Official White House Twitter Account To Harass Sen. Kamala Harris

    The Trump White House is using their official Twitter account to make false accusations and harass Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA).
    The OFFICIAL White House account tweeted:

    ICE removes Salvadoran MS-13 affiliate, Irish national with manslaughter conviction

    Sen. Harris does not support MS-13 or abolishing ICE

    Here is what Sen. Harris told MSNBC when asked about her position on ICE,

    “I think there’s no question that we’ve got to critically re-examine ICE and its role and

    the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing.

    And we need to probably think about starting from scratch.”


    There is a big difference between saying that ICE needs to be reexamined, and supporting MS-13.

    Trump is using the official White House Twitter account for campaign activities

    The tweet at Sen. Harris was not about policy.

    Harris is considering running for president against Donald Trump in 2020.

    What the White House wasn’t a fact, but a campaign attack ad. Trump is using official White House resources illegally for his 2020 reelection campaign.

    Sen. Harris doesn’t support MS-13, but Trump is using taxpayer-funded resources to lob attacks at people who might be running against him in two years. This is illegal.


    Trump is worried about 2020,

    and he is obviously afraid of Sen. Harris,

    but the illegal conduct of this administration must be called out.

    Presidents can’t use White House resources to smear potential opponents.

    It is illegal, and the American people need to elect a Democratic Congress so that lawless Trump will be held accountable.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07...la-harris.html


    Of course, the Repug Congress won't police Trash's illegalities.

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    i dont think brown's model is sustainable. he balanced the budget by hiking taxes to increase revenue... but californians were already paying high taxes.

    and yes, CA (particularly the big cities) is becoming a place that you have to be earning 6 figures if you have any aspirations of ever being a homeowner. it's nuts.
    It's the same here in the Valley. Houses have gone up waaayyyy too fast in just a few years.


    Also, the worst thing is how if you're an SMB that runs a profitable, not massively profitable, but profitable business, you get ed regardless. We had extremely low turnover and way low unemployment claims and paid all of our taxes. How do we get rewarded? A $15k unemployment tax bill to help the state pay off their Fed debt. That was the nail in the coffin. 45 jobs given to Idaho. Great job, Cali. We are only a small fraction of the 250k jobs that went across state borders.

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    It's the same here in the Valley. Houses have gone up waaayyyy too fast in just a few years.


    Also, the worst thing is how if you're an SMB that runs a profitable, not massively profitable, but profitable business, you get ed regardless. We had extremely low turnover and way low unemployment claims and paid all of our taxes. How do we get rewarded? A $15k unemployment tax bill to help the state pay off their Fed debt. That was the nail in the coffin. 45 jobs given to Idaho. Great job, Cali. We are only a small fraction of the 250k jobs that went across state borders.
    which valley? silicon? san fernando?

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    Kamala Harris

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    As a career prosecutor, I actually went after gangs and transnational criminal organizations.

    That's being a leader on public safety.

    What is not, is ripping babies from their mothers.

    4:18 PM - Jul 2, 2018


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    no longer a maxine waters thread.

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