Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[CGD]

Good points mentioned earlier about Lakers at risk of alienating Leonard. It feels like Philly is close, but needs a stronger signal from Leonard. The Clipper thing is a decent sign.

[raybies]

^^ Bruh I think there's a chance they don't even make the playoffs next year. How long is LeBron gonna be the iron man of the league. Dude been to 8 str8 finals. Anyways even if he don't break down they are terribly constructed team and LeBron usually paces himself during the season. How he gon do that when every team he faces in the West has a chance to win. I can see a scenario where he makes the demand to get him help and do it now, if they get off to a really bad start. I think that would give the Spurs some leverage again. Unless LeBron wants to take the hit of not making playoffs or being an 8 seed.

[DPG21920]

Mmmmm, you think they would only offer that? I think that might be throwing gas on a fire. I could see 200m, but if they offer 180? Don’t you think that’s risky? I mean, it doesn’t bother me, but if they really want to keep kawhi, I don’t think that’s the likely way

Well I think with LA only offering 145, that it’s pretty appealing

[Marcus Bryant]

Anyways, the supposed Spurs' ask for Leonard from the Lakers is maybe spoiled milk as opposed to the dog they are offering. The implication that this is some kind of unreasonable position is ing stupid. that stupid mother er on ESPN with the Polish name for acting like this is a high price. Some ing expert he is.

Never. ing. Settle.

[raybies]

Mmmmm, you think they would only offer that? I think that might be throwing gas on a fire. I could see 200m, but if they offer 180? Don’t you think that’s risky? I mean, it doesn’t bother me, but if they really want to keep kawhi, I don’t think that’s the likely way

Yup. They might balk. First offer got to be your best offer in this situation. They have made themselves victims at this point...

[BSfromTX]

Well I think with LA only offering 145, that it’s pretty appealing

sure, I agree, but kawhis camp has not done anything that makes sense

[Marcus Bryant]

sure, I agree, but kawhis camp has not done anything that makes sense

That's because there's a woman behind all this .

[DPG21920]

There is just so much risk to waiting.

1) You are willing to go from Kawhi to a Jimmy Butler type player just to wait?

2) Lebron is functionally on a three year deal - so he’s now got two left.

3) What if Ingram/Kuz don’t develop and look good? Their value goes down. What if one gets injured?

4) What if you alienate Kawhi by not valuing him like PG and he spurns you and that starts a trend? PG already said no. If Kawhi does too?

5) What if there is an injury to Bron? Kawhi? Now all your plans have really gone to and things look very bleak. Sure, injuries can happen anytime but you trade for guys healthy and then just deal with it. You don’t let superstars play for other teams and risk injuries on their dime when your plan is a 3-year window.

It’s just laughable to me that you have a chance at Kawhi, with no risk of him bolting and you won’t include Kuz/Ingram/Hart and late firsts??? I mean, what? Worst case, by trading those guys who aren’t even good yet, you would still have nearly 25M to replace them next year ? What do you think will be better: Kawhi + 25M or Butler+Ingram+Kuz+Hart?

It’s pretty damn simple.

[dbreiden83080]

Of course there is no bidding war for him.. This is something, I and others said for months. There are consequences for the bull he pulled this season. If he wanted this trade coming off the prior year, top 3 MVP candidate another first team all NBA selection, teams would be in that bidding war. This is a guy people around the league legit thought was better than Kevin ing Durant.. But nobody knows about his health, nobody knows mentally WTF is up with this dude? If he fragile mentally and physically, and even worth trading for? Does anyone think this issue of his health is over? He will be back fighting with team doctors in no time.. It is hilarious you blow off an entire season because somebody bruised your quad, and then demand to be traded thanks to your mates having the audacity to ask you to actually play basketball.. FU Leonard..

[Russ]

Magic is like fat person (check him out) at a buffet.

He won't be able to help himself with all the players throwing themselves at the Lakers.

Pretty soon, there will be no room for Kawhi as a FA next summer.

If the Lakers want Kawhi, they'll have to trade for him.

Spurs' strategy is working perfectly -- like checkers vs. chess.

[K...]

ing gross

That was the year the cap was huge, he's a lucky sob

[sasaint]

Spurs already have trouble playing their own 6'4" prospects if we are honest and just signed Marco to a deal for good measure.

I am a big Texas Tech fan, and I like Zhaire. But he is very raw. I wish him the greatest of careers. But he strikes me as the kind of prospect that needs the right coaching staff to patiently coach him up - or else he ends up wowin' 'em in China or Europe with his athleticism. The Spurs would be a good place for Zhaire, but we need to weed out our backcourt prospects not bring another on board.

[Big Empty]

That's because there's a woman behind all this .

ahhh yes. Kawhi found him some 24k gold p$$y in CA and she aint moving to SA. Never crossed my mind

[Marcus Bryant]

Magic is like fat person (check him out) at a buffet.

He won't be able to help himself with all the players throwing themselves at the Lakers.

Pretty soon, there will be no room for Kawhi as a FA next summer.

If the Lakers want Kawhi, they'll have to trade for him.

Spurs' strategy is working perfectly -- like checkers vs. chess.

Add the mid season freak out by James when they're at .500 and he starts demanding trades. They are going to be hard pressed to maintain cap flexibility next summer.

[Marcus Bryant]

ahhh yes. Kawhi found him some 24k gold p$$y in CA and she aint moving to SA. Never crossed my mind

When a man starts acting different, doing things you'd never expect, making questionable decisions, survey says it's because of a woman.

[dbreiden83080]

Well Kawhi, see you at training camp and don't forget, the picture with the Coyote is mandatory.

He has acted like such an A-Hole if this drags out till camp, I bet he refuses to show up. Force the Spurs to discipline and threaten him with CBA violations. He is like a Kid trying to hide from bullies at school, begging Mommy to Not send him to school.. Little 6 Foot Tony Parker was mean to me Mommy..

[kjhip1]

There is just so much risk to waiting.

1) You are willing to go from Kawhi to a Jimmy Butler type player just to wait?

2) Lebron is functionally on a three year deal - so he’s now got two left.

3) What if Ingram/Kuz don’t develop and look good? Their value goes down. What if one gets injured?

4) What if you alienate Kawhi by not valuing him like PG and he spurns you and that starts a trend? PG already said no. If Kawhi does too?

5) What if there is an injury to Bron? Kawhi? Now all your plans have really gone to and things look very bleak. Sure, injuries can happen anytime but you trade for guys healthy and then just deal with it. You don’t let superstars play for other teams and risk injuries on their dime when your plan is a 3-year window.

It’s just laughable to me that you have a chance at Kawhi, with no risk of him bolting and you won’t include Kuz/Ingram/Hart and late firsts??? I mean, what? Worst case, by trading those guys who aren’t even good yet, you would still have nearly 25M to replace them next year ? What do you think will be better: Kawhi + 25M or Butler+Ingram+Kuz+Hart?

It’s pretty damn simple.

Pretty funny looking at all the laker fan twitter posts about how the spurs are smoking crack wanting this offer. I think its an easy decision for all the reasons you give above. We are talking about a top 5 player in the NBA and someone who has success guarding Durant and giving the warriors problems. Still think we get the short end on this...

[ducks]

Has 3 million house in sa that pussy can sleep in when it is finished

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^^ Bruh I think there's a chance they don't even make the playoffs next year. How long is LeBron gonna be the iron man of the league. Dude been to 8 str8 finals. Anyways even if he don't break down they are terribly constructed team and LeBron usually paces himself during the season. How he gon do that when every team he faces in the West has a chance to win. I can see a scenario where he makes the demand to get him help and do it now, if they get off to a really bad start. I think that would give the Spurs some leverage again. Unless LeBron wants to take the hit of not making playoffs or being an 8 seed.

Solid post.

You're the first person I've seen bring this up in this context. The wins are going to be a tougher grind night in and night out. Especially when you're still clearly the Alpha dog on the team. That's going to have to start wearing on him when he doesn't get the nights off he's been used to his entire career in the East. There aren't easy wins with the Dubs, Rockets, Thunder, Spurs, Jazz, Timberwolves, either in your own house, or you in theirs, night in and night out. That is also likely to have psychological consequences on his already sketchy effort on defense at times.

Plus, as you mentioned, he's basically played the equivalent of at least two extra seasons over his last 8 years just in taxing playoff games.

Granted, he keeps himself in excellent shape but he's also going to clearly be spread out more so with the LA obligations and his own business aspirations out there. I think he's got no more than 2 more peak years left.

Let's see how fast they can congeal and build up the team.

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi is flying from SA to a city west of it. Its been a done deal for twp days now.

The holdup is because of a personal reason

[dbreiden83080]

When a man starts acting different, doing things you'd never expect, making questionable decisions, survey says it's because of a woman.

Someone tell him it is his job to Groupies and be cold about it in the morning.

[Vic Petro]

When a man starts acting different, doing things you'd never expect, making questionable decisions, survey says it's because of a woman.

Kawhi’s new Hollywood girl is fine though

[Marcus Bryant]

Of course there is no bidding war for him.. This is something, I and others said for months. There are consequences for the bull he pulled this season. If he wanted this trade coming off the prior year, top 3 MVP candidate another first team all NBA selection, teams would be in that bidding war. This is a guy people around the league legit thought was better than Kevin ing Durant.. But nobody knows about his health, nobody knows mentally WTF is up with this dude? If he fragile mentally and physically, and even worth trading for? Does anyone think this issue of his health is over? He will be back fighting with team doctors in no time.. It is hilarious you blow off an entire season because somebody bruised your quad, and then demand to be traded thanks to your mates having the audacity to ask you to actually play basketball.. FU Leonard..

[raybies]

Solid post.

You're the first person I've seen bring this up in this context. The wins are going to be a tougher grind night in and night out. Especially when you're still clearly the Alpha dog on the team. That's going to have to start wearing on him when he doesn't get the nights off he's been used to his entire career in the East. There aren't easy wins with the Dubs, Rockets, Thunder, Spurs, Jazz, Timberwolves, are in your house, or you in theirs night in and night out.

Plus, as you mentioned, he's basically played the equivalent of at least two extra seasons over his last 8 years just in taxing playoff games.

Granted, he keeps himself in excellent shape but he's also going to clearly be spread out more so with the LA obligations and his own business aspirations out there. I think he's got no more than 2 more peak years left.

Let's see how fast they can congeal and build up the team.

I just easily see a scenario where he gets completely overwhelmed.

[K...]

Kawhi is flying from SA to a city west of it. Its been a done deal for twp days now.

The holdup is because of a personal reason

why was he in SA? isn't he already in CA? If he did come here i think we'd know