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    Eh, I was hoping Bertans would be closer to $4 million per season. With the options either KA for $38 million over four years or Bertans at $20 millions, I guess I agree with going with Bertans. His shooting ability and overall agility make him a good fit no matter how the roster is constructed going forward. With KA, there were scenarios where he'd be close to useless. With Bertans, he will be useful in just about every scenario.

    But there are some risks to this decision. If Bertans tears another ACL, this deal could look ugly fast. KA is also obviously the better overall player with a higher upside. Bertans is what he is; I can't imagine a scenario where he takes a giant step forward. Best case is added experience helps him defensively and he shoots 40% on threes on the other end.

    Nephew's fiasco pretty much forced the Spurs' hand. Kyle could have been the choice in a lot of scenarios but, with the questions marks, it makes more sense to go with Bertans simply because his skillset allows him to fit no matter what.
    Deal could still be 4M per year; we don’t know the details yet on guarantees or years.

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    At least start utilizing him the way they do on the Latvian team..

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    You're saying the Spurs should have more les in the last 10 years with a Tim Duncan on the decline. Flawless thinking.
    He was on the decline for seven years and yet as of 2014, he was still the second best player on the team behind Tony Parker.

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    He's basically Matt Bonner with a ceiling of Steve Novak.
    Yeah, you're wrong.

    Bertrans is a harder style Euro player who is tough as nails and won't back down from anyone. The chip on his shoulder is bigger than Fattie Bonner and Novak combined and if he can find his shot consistently will be a good get for us at that price.

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    keeping bertans and letting anderson walk would be moves consistent with a team intent on keeping kawhi

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    Spurs reached a WCF without Duncan and still made the playoffs last year without Kawhi whil the team you mentioned couldn’t even do that
    Second in the West es!

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    We need a tall athletic center. Harrell anyone? Militunov please!

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    Second in the West es!
    Ya - that’s like really good.

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    Deal could still be 4M per year; we don’t know the details yet on guarantees or years.
    Good point, breh. If there's unguaranteed money in the deal, then it would have made it a no-brainer to pick over KA's deal with the trade kicker.

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    Good point, breh. If there's unguaranteed money in the deal, then it would have made it a no-brainer to pick over KA's deal with the trade kicker.
    Assuming you have your take on Kawhi? Even if this somehow gets resolved, what are your thoughts on him moving forward as a Spur or otherwise?

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    Depth chart so far:

    Murray - Mills - White
    Green - Bellinelli - Walker
    (Kawhi) - Manu - Paul
    Bertans - Gay
    Aldridge - Gasol

    We need one or two more bigs and one or two more SF's. They will be acquired via Kawhi trade, probably.

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    Good deal

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    Depth chart so far:

    Murray - Mills - White
    Green - Bellinelli - Walker
    (Kawhi) - Manu - Paul
    Bertans - Gay
    Aldridge - Gasol

    We need one or two more bigs and one or two more SF's. They will be acquired via Kawhi trade, probably.
    Kuzma and Ingram would fit perfectly

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    I can see beautiful basketball returning. Don't know about Kawhi situation, but for now everyplayer in rotation can provide defense or outside shooting. I know that Mills and Gasol are traffic cones but both can shoot and pass the ball. Adding White, Belli, Manu, Bertans you can see a lot of shooting and passing. Starting 5 looks more defense oriented.

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    not a bad contract.

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    $5m is a good price point, tbh... unfortunate about the 4 years, but it might not be all guaranteed. Gotta read the details.

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    We need a tall athletic center. Harrell anyone? Militunov please!
    would take a flyer on harrell.

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    Depth chart so far:

    Murray - Mills - White
    Green - Bellinelli - Walker
    (Kawhi) - Manu - Paul
    Bertans - Gay
    Aldridge - Gasol

    We need one or two more bigs and one or two more SF's. They will be acquired via Kawhi trade, probably.
    you keep wischasting bertans as a starter tbh. they didnt pay gay 10 mil to play behind davis

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    $5m is a good price point, tbh... unfortunate about the 4 years, but it might not be all guaranteed. Gotta read the details.
    if you buy that 5 mil is a good price point, then the years are actually a positive... as his value can only go up from here imo

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    if you buy that 5 mil is a good price point, then the years are actually a positive... as his value can only go up from here imo
    True. The question is timing in case the Spurs decide to blow it up in 2 years. But $5m is much easier to dump, trade, etc.

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    you keep wischasting bertans as a starter tbh. they didnt pay gay 10 mil to play behind davis
    I just put Bertans on the SL, because I had Kawhi in there. In the unlikely (but possible) scenario that Kawhi starts the season with us, it would make a lot more sense to have Bertans on the SL than Gay, tbh.

    Also, Mills will probably start too, I just put it that way because I thought it made they most sense, not because I think that's what Pop will do.

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    Did you not see him keep up with Klay Thompson in PO's? Aren't you the same guy who said Kyle Anderson>Brandon Ingram?
    Brandon Ingram is worse than a steaming piece of on defense, Kyle Anderson is a good defender.

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    the details on what is guaranteed could make it a very good deal

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    I just put Bertans on the SL, because I had Kawhi in there. In the unlikely (but possible) scenario that Kawhi starts the season with us, it would make a lot more sense to have Bertans on the SL than Gay, tbh.

    Also, Mills will probably start too, I just put it that way because I thought it made they most sense, not because I think that's what Pop will do.
    i know you think that, but there has never been a hint of indication that pop thinks so. its wishcasting and far from the first time you've slotted bertans as a starter

    i think he has starter potential but he hasn't shown it yet.

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    The 4 years is a major tell, most likely the staff thinks Bertans still has a good amount of untapped potential. Solid signing imo.

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