Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy Retiring

[Pavlov]

70,000 US citizens in WI, MI and PA vs how many millions of illegal aliens.

Are you claiming the illegal aliens voted?

[ducks]

Are you claiming the illegal aliens voted?

What say you about who is counted in the census then?

[Pavlov]

I'm fine with having them counted in the census. I'm fine with deporting them too if they're such a drain. What would your scapegoat be then?

[rmt]

Are you claiming the illegal aliens voted?

Methodology

The United States Census counts total persons residing in the United States including citizens, non-citizen permanent residents, and non-citizen long-term visitors.[1] (this must be the sanitized/PC term for illegal aliens). Civilian and military federal employees serving abroad and their dependents are counted in their home state.[2]

Electoral apportionment
Based on data from the decennial census, each state is allocated a proportion of the 435 seats in the United States House of Representatives, although each state is guaranteed a minimum of one seat, regardless of population. This apportionment is based on the proportion of each state's population to that of the fifty states together (without regard to the populations of the District of Columbia, AS, GU, MP, PR, or VI). The Electoral College is the body that, every four years, elects the President and Vice President of the United States. Each state's representation in the Electoral College is equal to that state's total number of members in both houses of the United States Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population

Every time some one whines about how each American's vote should count equally, I'm a gonna post the above about how ILLEGAL ALIENS may affect our elections.

[Pavlov]

Methodology

The United States Census counts total persons residing in the United States including citizens, non-citizen permanent residents, and non-citizen long-term visitors.[1] (this must be the sanitized/PC term for illegal aliens). Civilian and military federal employees serving abroad and their dependents are counted in their home state.[2]

Electoral apportionment
Based on data from the decennial census, each state is allocated a proportion of the 435 seats in the United States House of Representatives, although each state is guaranteed a minimum of one seat, regardless of population. This apportionment is based on the proportion of each state's population to that of the fifty states together (without regard to the populations of the District of Columbia, AS, GU, MP, PR, or VI). The Electoral College is the body that, every four years, elects the President and Vice President of the United States. Each state's representation in the Electoral College is equal to that state's total number of members in both houses of the United States Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population

And?

[AaronY]

there is not a person you can agree with everyone he by far was the best choice
in 2012 he thought that does not mean he thinks that now especially not he is president

you took the words right out of my mouth

then i guess you shuffled them up in a bag and poured them out onto the floor or something

[pgardn]

The election was close anyway you look at it.
Trump won by the current rules.

Bottom line is it was close.
So democrats need to understand there are a bunch of people who don’t like what they are selling.
For God’s sake the Republicans won with an Orange clown. Think about this...

[rmt]

And?

Illegal aliens may affect the number of electoral votes a state like CA gets.

[CosmicCowboy]

I wonder if Ginsburg will get tired of writing minority opinions and say " it" between naps and quit. Be funny as if Trump pushes through three SCOTUS judges.

[Pavlov]

Illegal aliens may affect the number of electoral votes a state like CA gets.

And Texas.

[rmt]

And Texas.

I think TX is trying to limit them (unlike CA who welcomes them with open arms). If you live in TX, you ought to keep an eye on that ever-rising property tax which is paying for many of those illegal kids' educations.

[spurraider21]

The foreign born
The U.S. Census Bureau uses the term foreign born to refer to anyone who is not a U.S. citizen at birth. This includes naturalized U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents (immigrants), temporary migrants (such as foreign students), humanitarian migrants (such as refugees and asylees), and unauthorized migrants.

The Census Bureau collects data from all foreign born who participate in its censuses and surveys, regardless of legal status. Thus, unauthorized migrants are implicitly included in Census Bureau estimates of the total foreign-born population, although it is not possible to tabulate separate estimates of unauthorized migrants or any other legal status category.

https://www.census.gov/topics/popula...orn/about.html

Frustrating, isn't it? (on both sides)

census figures would be irrelevant if you just went with a popular vote where only citizens can vote.

[spurraider21]

Illegal aliens may affect the number of electoral votes a state like CA gets.

census figures would be irrelevant if you just went with a popular vote where only citizens can vote.

[Pavlov]

I think TX is trying to limit them (unlike CA who welcomes them with open arms). If you live in TX, you ought to keep an eye on that ever-rising property tax which is paying for many of those illegal kids' educations.

Texas isn't trying to limit them at all. Texas needs them.

I'd rather have them educated.

[spurraider21]

and the amount of skew you have in the house of representatives due to illegal immigrants absolutely pales in comparison to the natural skew of the senate...

[Chris]

trump bad now

on cue

[Pavlov]

on cue

And you have no rebuttal.

[pgardn]

Illegal aliens may affect the number of electoral votes a state like CA gets.

3 million of them...

Sure.

Just enough for Trump to claim he would have won the popular vote.

[SnakeBoy]

I wonder if Ginsburg will get tired of writing minority opinions and say " it" between naps and quit. Be funny as if Trump pushes through three SCOTUS judges.

Don't forget about Breyer, could easily be 4. Both are in the age range where health can just suddenly spiral downward unexpectedly.

[Chris]

And you have no rebuttal.

"but DRUMPF!" doesn't deserve a rebuttal. I know it's your ace in the hole.

[Pavlov]

"but DRUMPF!" doesn't deserve a rebuttal. I know it's your ace in the hole.

I accept your white flag.

[rmt]

Texas isn't trying to limit them at all. Texas needs them.

I'd rather have them educated.

I wonder why TX joins/leads immigration lawsuits.

Seven States, Led by Texas, Sue to End DACA Program
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/01/u...uit-texas.html

Texas ban on sanctuary city policies can stand for now, appeals court rules
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/14/polit...ing/index.html

A Texas lawsuit killed one Obama immigration policy.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05...pa-ken-paxton/

[rmt]

3 million of them...

Sure.

Just enough for Trump to claim he would have won the popular vote.

I'm not talking about votes. Illegals can inflate the House representatives/electoral votes that a state gets.

[Pavlov]

I wonder why TX joins/leads immigration lawsuits.

Seven States, Led by Texas, Sue to End DACA Program
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/01/u...uit-texas.html

Texas ban on sanctuary city policies can stand for now, appeals court rules
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/14/polit...ing/index.html

A Texas lawsuit killed one Obama immigration policy.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05...pa-ken-paxton/

Posturing. It never leads to any reduction where they want them.

Ever.

[ducks]

Be funny if Obama’s picks had to retire
Then trump could really under Obama’s legacy