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    I think Salinas has it right if Bertans, Belinelli & Forbes are all 1+1 deals. It means those 3 plus Gay, Green & Gasol are potentially off the books next season, opening up a fair bit of capspace.
    Right. That also would explain why the Spurs are willing to spend all this money on guys like Bertans and Beli and Gay but let Anderson walk.

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    Russell trade was good for both sides but definitely favors us. We wouldn't even trade Kuzma for Russell straight up yet we shed over $60 million and got a year of Lopez. Your take is beyond dumb and Lonzo was not part of that trade and is irrelevant to the argument.
    so your GM dumped a solid pick because they signed a garbage player to a ridiculous contract and you're somehow proud of that?

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    So then hold onto Leonard another five months until he could legally sign an extension in Philly. No reason to give him away. Two extra picks in the 28-30 range are practically useless.
    No telling what uncle Dennis might do if the Spurs don't trade him by training camp. There is a non zero chance that Kawhi doesn't report, then what? They fine and then ,maybe, suspend? That lowers the Spurs leverage and creates an even bigger circus. I think some version of that deal gets done; the Spurs get two cheap starters and 3 extra picks and Philly gets a super star that may or may not be healthy and may not even stay. There is risk on both sides for sure.

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    so your GM dumped a solid pick because they signed a garbage player to a ridiculous contract and you're somehow proud of that?
    Dude doesn't get it. I'm done trying to explain it to him.

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    No telling what uncle Dennis might do if the Spurs don't trade him by training camp. There is a non zero chance that Kawhi doesn't report, then what? They fine and then ,maybe, suspend? That lowers the Spurs leverage and creates an even bigger circus. I think some version of that deal gets done; the Spurs get two cheap starters and 3 extra picks and Philly gets a super star that may or may not be healthy and may not even stay. There is risk on both sides for sure.
    If Leonard does anything other than play good boy, he will see his next contract severely compromised.

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    so your GM dumped a solid pick because they signed a garbage player to a ridiculous contract and you're somehow proud of that?
    Yep, sure am.
    Maginka righting the Jimitch wrongs.
    Didn't like Russell deal at first I freely admit that.
    But that was before Kuzma hit and we signed LeBron with our cap space. Genius trade tbh.
    Then we traded Nance and Clarkson for another pick and more space.

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    So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

    Murray - Mills - White
    Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
    Kawhi - Manu - Paul
    Bertans - Gay
    Aldridge - Gasol

    14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the would this work?

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    So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

    Murray - Mills - White
    Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
    Kawhi - Manu - Paul
    Bertans - Gay
    Aldridge - Gasol

    14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the would this work?
    How would it work?

    It won't.

    It's even worse roster construction than last year.

    No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...

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    So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

    Murray - Mills - White
    Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
    Kawhi - Manu - Paul
    Bertans - Gay
    Aldridge - Gasol

    14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the would this work?

    Waive Paul unless Manu retires, I guess. We should know by 8/1. Sign Metu and hope we get back two forwards for Kawhi if we trade him . . . I like Tobias Harris and Harrell a lot. Not as big a fan of Saric and Covington. Maybe if both Manu retires and we waive Paul then 76ers send back Saric/Covington/Zhaire/Chandler for Kawhi and a Mills salary dump. I still think Clippers have better assets . . . I really wish we had gotten Mbah a Moute with the BAE. Anyways, if Kawhi comes back we still need another forward . . . use the rest of the MLE or the BAE on them. However, there really isn't anyone left who is defensive minded.

    Let's hope if Mills or Forbes is on the floor the only other guard is Manu or Murray . . .

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    How would it work?

    It won't.

    It's even worse roster construction than last year.

    No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...
    I'm doing brain gymnastics trying to find the rationale behind this roster construction but I can't find any, tbh.

    I'm guessing Manu retires and Paul gets cut and then they sign a big and a long wing, but even those moves wouldn't really balance the roster. I'm seriously baffled.

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    Waive Paul unless Manu retires, I guess. We should know by 8/1. Sign Metu and hope we get back two forwards for Kawhi if we trade him . . . I like Tobias Harris and Harrell a lot. Not as big a fan of Saric and Covington. Maybe if both Manu retires and we waive Paul then 76ers send back Saric/Covington/Zhaire/Chandler for Kawhi and a Mills salary dump. I still think Clippers have better assets . . . I really wish we had gotten Mbah a Moute with the BAE. Anyways, if Kawhi comes back we still need another forward . . . use the rest of the MLE or the BAE on them. However, there really isn't anyone left who is defensive minded.

    Let's hope if Mills or Forbes is on the floor the only other guard is Manu or Murray . . .
    Mills getting traded would explain the Forbes signing. I hope PATFO is really ahead of the game and that ends up being the case.

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    So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

    Murray - Mills - White
    Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
    Kawhi - Manu - Paul
    Bertans - Gay
    Aldridge - Gasol

    14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the would this work?
    Can also make another trade to move a player for a draft pick or a two for one deal.

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    I'm doing brain gymnastics trying to find the rationale behind this roster construction but I can't find any, tbh.

    I'm guessing Manu retires and Paul gets cut and then they sign a big and a long Won't, but even those moves wouldn't really balance the roster. I'm seriously baffled.
    Spurs are far from finished yet. There will be changes.

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    How would it work?

    It won't.

    It's even worse roster construction than last year.

    No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...
    Spurs have to be arranging a trade. It’s about all that makes sense at this point.

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    Mills getting traded would explain the Forbes signing. I hope that's the case.
    People thought that last year.

    Anyone thinking that is a dumbass.

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    And if you wanna bet 100 on it we can.

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    I'm doing brain gymnastics trying to find the rationale behind this roster construction but I can't find any, tbh.

    I'm guessing Manu retires and Paul gets cut and then they sign a big and a long Won't, but even those moves wouldn't really balance the roster. I'm seriously baffled.
    I agree it makes no sense. I though Walker/Beli/Metu was a direct replacement for Forbes/BP3/Joff which is a good upgrade for the end of the bench. Parker walking I was OK with . . . wouldn't have given him anything beyond 3/10.

    Re-signing Forbes and letting Anderson walk? What was the point? Who can we get for the BAE or the remainder of the MLE who can guard both the 3 and 4 positions? Harrell is nice but Clippers can easily match for him. Mbah a Moute may have always planned to go back to the Clippers, tbh.

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    And if you wanna bet 100 on it we can.
    Why would I bet on something I'm saying I'm trying to make sense of?

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    Mills getting traded would explain the Forbes signing. I hope PATFO is really ahead of the game and that ends up being the case.
    Sure, he can be sent with Kawhi but then the other team would need to be able to match that in salary. 76ers would probably need 4 players for that, Clippers only 3 most likely. Paul or Manu is definitely gone . . . we're not carrying 9 guards even if Manu and Green can usually guard the 3 well enough.

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    Spurs are just playing the odds game. Pay cheap and hope they play lights out if the stars align. Nothing to do with Mills.

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    There is something up their sleeve......

    Hmmmm hmmmmm

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    Spurs are just playing the odds game. Pay cheap and hope they play lights out if the stars align. Nothing to do with Mills.
    OK, but pay cheap on a position of need. Don't add a 9th guard to a 15 spots roster.

    Yeah, that's right, the Spurs have 9 guards under contract. 7 of them are 6'5" or shorter.

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    OK, but pay cheap on a position of need. Don't add a 9th guard to a 15 spots roster.

    Yeah, that's right, the Spurs have 9 guards under contract. 7 of them are 6'5" or shorter.
    Our only short players are MVPatty and Forbes you dumb .

    Everyone else is good size for their position.

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    I think these 2 year deals are one and one so spurs have lots of money next year.
    gay/pau/green for sure
    belli/Forbes/Bertans
    kawhi be gone
    only prob we r not LA and prolly will miss on Ad, Klay and others

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    OK, but pay cheap on a position of need. Don't add a 9th guard to a 15 spots roster.

    Yeah, that's right, the Spurs have 9 guards under contract. 7 of them are 6'5" or shorter.
    Wow. I am seriously getting depressed.

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